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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 02:28 GMT
#553
thank you based truffle god.

good shot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 02:29 GMT
#554
rsoul has already explained hers, but I would like an explanation from MM1 and superbia as to why they decided to move their votes onto prp.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 03:16 GMT
#564
town:
ritoky
damdred
trfelz

likely town:
rsoul

everyone else

figuring out the everyone else atm.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 03:19 GMT
#566
On March 05 2015 12:17 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky I tried to do vote analysis a bit and got yelled at, what do you think of what I did and conclussions on robik, onegu, oats and super if you don't mind.


i plan to look at it here in about 30 minutes, am leaving work on my way home so i could only give it a cursory glance before.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 04:24 GMT
#603
@damdred hrm i kinda agree with a lot of what you are saying in your vote analysis, it is kidna where i am at too except your priorities are different than mine.

like i think this crap that superbia is spouting is absolute nonsense. that there was no mafia on the prp wagon? it is hard as fuck for me to believe that a mafia was magically saved and it was all town. sorry not buyin them wolf tickets. i think it just comes down to the fact that he thinks i am mafia for no reason worth mentioning, and that i not only pushed for slam, said vote him or claim scum, but then called for a vigi shot on him

i think at least 1 mafia swapped so there is 1 between rsoul, mm1, and super

i think we should pressure robik, but if he is town he will invoke the never get mislynched as town mode and we will not go thru with it.

onegu deserves to be a question mark he seems like he could be mafia playing like how i play when i am mafia where i vote early on a teammate for a meh reason and don't move, but could be town.

i think we should be solving which of the 3 that swapped are mafia this phase because it is very very unlikely that none of them were mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 07:15 GMT
#659
On March 05 2015 15:44 Onegu wrote:
Night kills are wifom. A vet was killed the votes are much more interesting.


and that post was wifom.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 07:17 GMT
#660
On March 05 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
I still kinda think ritoky is town


what dropped you down to kinda?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 07:19 GMT
#662
any1 else notice the distinct lack of robik in the thread?

robik, by your analysis of your own meta; as mafia you can't keep your activity up. you mafia bro?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 07:58 GMT
#673
On March 05 2015 16:47 IAmRobik wrote:
superbia and rsoul look bad
mm1 also looks bad
damdred's vote timing is bad, but at least he kept his vote on slam
oats didn't vote and is basically afk as far as I can tell.

I think we should lynch those people


of superbia, rsoul, and mm1; which do you think is most likely scum for their vote?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 08:03 GMT
#674
On March 05 2015 16:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:41 Snickers wrote:
Oh who should he give thanks too



Me obviously. First to vote slam and I gave the formula to tell if slam is scum or not. I gave the meta reasons multiple times.


your read is incomplete, you need to take chupazinomics 347 to complete your degree in reading slam.

my read is the true read.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 08:16 GMT
#676
On March 05 2015 17:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:58 ritoky wrote:
On March 05 2015 16:47 IAmRobik wrote:
superbia and rsoul look bad
mm1 also looks bad
damdred's vote timing is bad, but at least he kept his vote on slam
oats didn't vote and is basically afk as far as I can tell.

I think we should lynch those people


of superbia, rsoul, and mm1; which do you think is most likely scum for their vote?

super>mm1>rsoul

not sure if rsoul would make it that fucking obv as mafia


what makes you put superbia above mm1, considering their play too
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 08:37 GMT
#678
@oats, give me reads; who is town? who is mafia?

post more so i can get a read on you.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 20:29 GMT
#721
On March 05 2015 22:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 16:17 ritoky wrote:
On March 05 2015 15:05 rsoultin wrote:
I still kinda think ritoky is town


what dropped you down to kinda?


Your presence in the thread wasn't as strong as I remembered it, but it got better. Got a problem with that? Like, seriously, we can pretend I'm a viable lynch here but I'm really not. You're basically saying I have the IQ of a Brussels sprout if you're calling me scum -shrugs- I expect you to work with me after work to get this lynch settled, and have some ideas of your own. If you're getting reads right now that's fine but at some point it's time to take a shit or get off the pot.


work and recently married eats up a lot more time than i normally expect.

the reason i am so critical of you is because i think you're town but.... and there lies my problem. i want a town read on you like i have on damdred or tfelz, but in my head i keep arriving at "seems really town, but" area. and i don't think it is a low iq move at all. playing as mafia is a team game and saving a teammate if you have the option is almost always better than not saving a teammate. but that's all procedural semantics.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 20:30 GMT
#722
thank you robik for being robik, i don't want to lynch robik today.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 20:56 GMT
#724
On March 04 2015 04:14 OnceKing wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

Alakaslam (5): Onegu, rsoultin, Damdred, prplhz, Trfel
ritoky (2): Palmar, Alakaslam
prplhz (2): IAmRobik, Snickers
Palmar (1): Superbia
OatsMaster (1): MysteryMeat1
Snickers (0): prplhz, Trfel
MysteryMeat1 (0): Snickers, prplhz

Not voted (2): ritoky, Oatsmaster

As it currently stands, Alakaslam is slated to be deported.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:



hrm this is an interesting vote.

So it goes:
me -> slam, palmar from ritoky -> prp, mm1 from oats -> prp, superbia from palm -> prp, rsoul from slam -> prp

mm1 reason for oats vote:

On March 04 2015 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

Hi oats, gimme some love


translation: vote on the lurker

mm1 reason for switch:

On March 04 2015 04:51 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Then I shall follow you robik and vote for prp, or would you have me keep my vote on oats?


sheeps robik even though robik has been on prp for a long time; does somewhat line up with his only read in the game though: that being robik is town.

superbia reason for palm vote:

On March 02 2015 09:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:35 Palmar wrote:
Btw, I'm going to suggest we keep a massively no-nonsense town atmosphere this game with strong emphasis on policy lynching people who refuse to take part in the game.

Every vote should be backed with reasons, there should be absolutely no trolling of any kind. Lying, fake claims etc should all be punished with a lynch. It's going to make for such a better environment to scumhunt in if we actively discourage shennies.


Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:13 Palmar wrote:
Yeah shit guys I rolled mafia this time, so don't expect anything.


Yeah, you're fucked either way.

##Vote: Palmar


joke vote? wonder why it took him so long to move it if this was a joke vote, especially seeing that palmar appeared to be his top town. obsessed with lynching me, but no real effort level put into it.

reason for switch onto prp:

On March 04 2015 07:47 Superbia wrote:
prp looks like an okay-ish lynch. Ritoky looks a little better imo. Asks regarding prp's meta early on, seemingly questioning his alignment, but completely falls off. Doesn't want to vote him over slam, even though his vote on slam has a very weak reason.


weak reason, moreso seems to just want to sheep palmar.

rsoul reason for voting slam:

On March 03 2015 09:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:20 ritoky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:14 rsoultin wrote:
Slam lovely I'm sorry that you're not town this game :/


what made you arrive here from "boring boring boring" as your read on slam earlier?

also, why did you vote for slam when you did? you hadn't mentioned him in your filter up to that point.


tone read

boring slam is a scum slam

he contributed nothing and just randomly sheeped palmar (maybe y'all can tell if palmar's serious or not about lynching you but I sure can't)

this latest post was a bunch of nothing again. it wasn't a change in reads at all lol just reaffirming the one I already had; i'm not going to vote to lynch someone I don't think is scum


a form of a meta/thread presence read.

reason for switching to prp:

On March 04 2015 07:59 rsoultin wrote:
they may both be scum. palmar's reason is good enough

and ill get back to you after flip, super xP why you'd expect me to have a read on you right now is amusing


she went from having so much faith in her own read that she was telling others to vote slam to being so unconfident in her own read and instead sheeping palmar's read because it is "good enough" and he "probably knows better". like what is with this tonal shift and deference away from her own read? i don't think she is more likely mafia than the other two, but i can't shake that there is something amiss in this.

bonus material:

this is what keeps me having the "but" on rsoul, posts like this:

On March 03 2015 14:19 rsoultin wrote:
TRUFFLE

VOTE SLAM WITH ME IF YOU'RE TOWN

if not, please carry on and be dumb xP snickers obviously isn't the best lynch today


how did she get from this place to a place where she swaps to save slam? at this point she seems so adamant about slam...this kinda stuff just keeps giving me pause throughout her game.

conclusion:

i think superbia is the most likely scum here. i think he would have gladly left his vote jokingly on palmar the entire phase or placed it on me if he actually believed in his read, especially since palmar was willing to vote and push on me (at the very least early on). i think he saw an opportunity to tie the vote and potentially sway someone to saving a scum buddy and did so.

##vote: superbia
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 21:11 GMT
#733
to further that case since there isn't much to it:

supberia's day 1 doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

On March 02 2015 09:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:35 Palmar wrote:
Btw, I'm going to suggest we keep a massively no-nonsense town atmosphere this game with strong emphasis on policy lynching people who refuse to take part in the game.

Every vote should be backed with reasons, there should be absolutely no trolling of any kind. Lying, fake claims etc should all be punished with a lynch. It's going to make for such a better environment to scumhunt in if we actively discourage shennies.


Show nested quote +
On March 02 2015 08:13 Palmar wrote:
Yeah shit guys I rolled mafia this time, so don't expect anything.


Yeah, you're fucked either way.

##Vote: Palmar


I am assuming this is a joke vote on palmar, because of the following:

On March 04 2015 07:33 Superbia wrote:
This game feels super slow, even though I haven't been playing at all. Palmar, where you at? Give me a nice, concise list pls.


He has a very long departure from the thread and rather than attempt to engage the thread in any way he just seeks out palmar (the person he is voting for) for reads and likely to get in his good graces. he then sits there and parrots palmar and his sentiments basically the entire rest of the day, with things like:

On March 04 2015 07:49 Superbia wrote:
Can we switch to ritoky?


and

On March 04 2015 07:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 07:45 Palmar wrote:
ritoky switch or I lynch you tomorrow.


K we're on the same page.


yet even through all of this he apparently doesn't have a strong town read on palmar even though he is basically sheeping his every word:

On March 04 2015 07:51 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I guess. I don't really have a solid read on anyone but Snickers. Snickers is town.

Also RSO probably mafia for OGI reasons.


beyond that if you read the end of the day phase to me it reads as superbia basically bullying and pressuring rsoul into a vote swap, especially after it becomes clear that i won't be budged through his threats.

to me his day 1 just doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. i think he doesn't believe in his read on me (which is the only thing he seems to have atm) or else he really would have pushed forward on it by now. he is the mafia who switched.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 21:16 GMT
#735
[QUOTE]On March 05 2015 12:02 Superbia wrote:
I think it's probably robik. Robik needs to claim PR or die.
[QUOTE]

if you're town, why aren't you pursuing this at all? like seriously, it isn't like robik isn't around right now. it isn't like robik hasn't had thread interactions.

you have 2 reads: robik = pr or mafia, ritoky = mafia. you're not even trying to push through either. i don't see you solving the game in the slightest. and now you're whining? w/e dude.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 05 2015 21:16 GMT
#736
On March 05 2015 12:02 Superbia wrote:
I think it's probably robik. Robik needs to claim PR or die.


if you're town, why aren't you pursuing this at all? like seriously, it isn't like robik isn't around right now. it isn't like robik hasn't had thread interactions.

you have 2 reads: robik = pr or mafia, ritoky = mafia. you're not even trying to push through either. i don't see you solving the game in the slightest. and now you're whining? w/e dude.

fixed from above
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 03:58 GMT
#769
On March 06 2015 12:45 Snickers wrote:
So why do people think ritoky is town.


would you like the wifom truth reason?

cuz damdred is alive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 06 2015 04:31 GMT
#771
On March 06 2015 12:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 12:27 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
You just give me the same feeling as hell in a cell, you also found it weird for me to vote for you when you hadn't posted for 40 hours. I also think its kind of weird that out of the three of us (robik, you, me) all believe theres a potential mafia between us.

Its weird when you dont follow up on it or actually convince anyone that Im scum.


^ kinda agree with this. like you accuse oats of being scum, then you say it is because he is similar to a previous game but don't give examples or push it/him for any more info?????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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