Yes. Not 100% but more than likely.
I am lynching that anyways. I don't see a reason for claiming as town because your job is to look townie ny your actions, something that is not expected from mafia. But townies do not fear getting cop checked. Because cops are supposed to check scummy playwers and you should not think youare scummy as town.

The claim represents fear of being viewed as mafia, which... See above.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:22 GMT

#413

On February 14 2015 20:21 Palmar wrote:
And you don't care that the last million times this was done, the claimer has been town?

Not a single bit.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:26 GMT

#418

On February 14 2015 20:22 Palmar wrote:
So basically this is why I called rayn mafia. I'm reading the game backwards so I hadn't seen at the time the point where he actually does say it's a policy lynch.

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It is extremely scummy to try and justify policy lynches as something other than policy lynches. If we lynch HTS, it's a policy lynch for claiming miller. I personally hate millers claiming on day 1, and in theory agree with policy lynching them, recent games basically make it a dumb move to act on. I'm not saying we give HTS a pass, just that we ignore the claim and treat her like anyone else.

So I basically called rayn mafia because I believed he was trying to say HTS was mafia for something that absolutely does not make her mafia. It makes her the target of a policy lynch, and of course she might be mafia. But the claim is not a reason to call her mafia.

1) HTS claimed miller and therefore she is mafia <---- wrong
2) HTS claimed miller which is a mafia favored move so we should policy lynch her <--- right

That's the difference. Trying to make policy lynch something it isn't basically makes rayn mafia.

The problem is, I'm reading the game backwards so I hadn't seen on the previous page rayn actually calls it a policy lynch, which makes it much less bad.

The bolded is what i am saying.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:29 GMT

#424

On February 14 2015 20:28 Blazinghand wrote:

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ok I get it you got a general policy of lynching miller claims. I can respect that. How about a policy voting pact? If my RNG lynch is close to winning and your miller push isn't working, you vote for VA today?

No chance i am voting for VA, he is town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:31 GMT

#427

Where do you get the 30%?
There is 4 scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:33 GMT

#431

On February 14 2015 20:31 Palmar wrote:
tbh FF is kinda town for being the only one to get excited about me calling rayn mafia.

Why would that make him town assuming you are town and i am town?
Easiest thing to contribute on when a townie calls anotherone scum...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:34 GMT

#434

On February 14 2015 20:32 Blazinghand wrote:

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There's 5 scum: 4 mafia and 1 SK.

SK isn't scum in my world but ok.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:35 GMT

#435

On February 14 2015 20:31 Blazinghand wrote:

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OK sorry this was adumb reply

better reply

"why do you think he's town? is it really just based on lame meta speculation that town VA is lazy, or is there something more to it? please be detailed and explain in yoru own words."

No it's based on awesome meta read that has been accurate since forever.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43266 Posts

February 14 2015 11:44 GMT

#437

I am pretty sure liancourt is mafia.
I just need to check something when i get to my hotel.
Can't post properly and too lazy to operate without laptop.