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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 19 2015 22:06 GMT
#3135
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
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On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 05:32 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz.

Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play.


explain this in depth please.

The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 19 2015 22:13 GMT
#3138
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 05:32 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 00:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Non confirmed Town: ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz.

Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play.


explain this in depth please.

The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 19 2015 22:44 GMT
#3140
On February 20 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


Told you where?

You realize that HtS' entire read on me is OMGUS right? Like she completely agreed with everything I was saying, then I didn't like her moving her read off of rayn onto someone else for a weak reason. Considering it now, she moved it from a town onto a town and was the last person to move, which seems like a really useless play to make as mafia so HtS is probably town.

You also still haven't answered the above questions about where the tunnel is in my filter this game.

I just checked your filter and you weren't super tunneled this game on HTS but you were on me. Here are the posts you had on you scumreading me:

On February 17 2015 07:44 ritoky wrote:
remember the part where slam made a joke about being jailkeeper and LS, rayn, and some1 else took it super serious.

remember that part.


On February 17 2015 09:08 ritoky wrote:
I am starting to be inclined to think LS is scum because dood takin urrthing so srs.

On February 19 2015 08:31 ritoky wrote:
examining current vote count, if there's been changed votes since this, I am too tired atm to fix shit.

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On February 19 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
Vote Count

BlazingHand (1) - VayneAuthority
VayneAuthority (2) - BlazingHand, rsoultin
raynpelikoneet (5) - Damdred, LightningStrike, Palmar, Half the Sky, Alakaslam
Half the Sky (1) - raynpelikoneet

raynpelikoneet is set to be lynched. 7h26m until deadline



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On February 17 2015 15:50 ritoky wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

liancourt (8) - Blazinghand, IAmRobik, LightningStrike, FecalFeast, ritoky, Breshke, Superbia, rsoultin
Blazinghand (5) - Half the Sky, VayneAuthority, liancourt, KelsierSC, prplhz
Town Puppy (1) - Alakaslam
raynpelikoneet (1) - Palmar
Half the Sky (1) - raynpelikoneet
rsoultin (1) - Town Puppy


so the first thing I would like to draw your attention to is the vote on lian. by my metrics of numbers in my head and just game statistics, there is almost certainly to be at least 1 mafia on that wagon and likely 2. so I want to start narrowing it down a bit. superbia is town until proven otherwise because of a veteran claim, I am town because duh. I have a town lean on robik (less than yesterday but not gone yet). so we strike them off of here for the time being. that leaves 5: BH, LS, damdred, rsoul, and FF.

let's ignore FF for now because he is an outlier. if you look at the votes so far today, they have paired off. BH and rsoul are on VA and damdred and LS are on rayn. I would not be surprised if these pairs were aligned, which makes the vote on rayn super interesting to me, being that BH is a possible if not likely JK who is claimed for quite a while; so I would be more inclined to believe at this point that the rsoul + BH pair is less likely mafia than the LS + damdred pairing.

the weird thing though is independent of this vote analysis I think damdred is probably town though, but I really didn't like breshke when breshke was playing, so it could just be a good player fooling me.

anyway back to FF, the issue I am having with FF this game is that I have seen invested screaming FF town and invested screaming FF mafia, but never uninvested FF for as long as he was this game. he is just playing completely different than I have seen before, hence why I am more inclined toward him being sk.


On February 20 2015 05:36 ritoky wrote:
actually I don't even need LS to explain that, LS is basically confirmed mafia to me. that read is completely made up. not only is it completely made up, but it is also hedged at the end. further he doesn't add me to his mafia by poe meta list at the top, then down bottom he calls me mafia.

good luck on finding that meta stuff too.


On February 20 2015 05:55 ritoky wrote:
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On February 20 2015 05:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, I'm not literally modconfirmed. The mod hasn't come in and said I'm town. But you guys aren't actually gonna lynch me this game and you know it, you know it so much you're asking the SK or Scum to shoot me instead of trying to write a real case. We all know it's not happening so stop wasting everyone's time.


you asked if there was a chance, and I said yes

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we should be lynching LS for made up reads.

On February 20 2015 06:11 ritoky wrote:
god damn my vote logic post from last phase is sexy. wonder why 0 people commented on it. does the truth hurt your eyes that much?

also wasn't LS the one who robik caught editing his posts in a super obvious way?

all aboard that LS + damdred train baby.

There you go you welcome.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:16 GMT
#3183
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
The non confirmed players are either Mafia or SK and I finding you as either the SK or Mafia by Process of Elimation from all my reads and the confirmed towns were claimed roles or mod confirmed (BH) and then I decided to go meta reading players and elimated but the 5 in the non confirmed pile so that means that you are either A. Mafia or B. Serial Killer.


I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.

It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:18 GMT
#3184
On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:28 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:18 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

I mean, explain how I have "mafia traits" from my meta in depth plz. examples necessary.

Ya when you are Mafia you tend to super tunnel on someone for Example me in Carol of the Bells and Dr.H in Imperial. This game you been tunneled on HTS and now Me and this is the type of trait I associate with you when you are Mafia. Although i remember you Mass Murderer Slip was hilarious in Carol


I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.

It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still.

Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:19 GMT
#3185
On February 20 2015 09:51 Blazinghand wrote:
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On February 20 2015 09:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
there is nothing that demonstrates HTS needs to be lynched, LS is the only one that lied. He could say he said it to anybody.


You think LS intentionally pretended to slip a mafia QT interaction with HtS, a townie, as scum? This is definitely possible, but LS isn't on my level where he'd think of that kind of thing. This is much more likely a genuine "I forgot I was talking with HtS about this in the scum QT" thing. Nice try covering for one of your two scumbuddies though

I don't have a scum QT at all although I would wish I would so I can just name the entire team off for SK to kill lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:20 GMT
#3186
On February 20 2015 10:12 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:11 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:05 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:44 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 20 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


What's even worse is here is LS town reading me early in the game for my meta of not tunneling and fighting, which he has now flipped to scum read me for what reason exactly?

Thank you for this find BH, I only read the HtS portion of this interaction.


Yeah I think we can pretty reasonably say that LS and HtS need to be lynched. This is very good news.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD HTS NEED TO BE LYNCHED?!?!?


because the implication from the quote is that 1 of 3 things happened. either

a) they had this interaction in a scum qt and he slipped -> both are scum
b) they had this interaction in private messaging somehow -> modkill for rules
c) LS is lying about the interaction entirely and made it up -> LS scum, HtS = ?

in all 3 scenarios LS dies, figure the 2nd part out after.


Yeah no matter what LS is scum or is going to die. I actually think scenario A is significantly more likely than scenario C. Ritoky, players like you and I might be capable of C) but LS imo is not

I'm VT thank you very much.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:24 GMT
#3188
On February 20 2015 10:21 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:36 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

I mean you're right I tunnel as both alignments. you obviously don't care very much about this read since you weren't willing to actually go find examples like asked.

your read is not only bad, but made up.

I am not tryharding enough to be scum this game, and there has been 0 conviction in any of my reads until this one. so I don't know where you have this "tunnel" shit coming from. in fact last phase I gave a complicated null read on HtS.

Fine show me your town games and I will take a look at them.


so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.

It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still.

Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309


what in the holy fuck? this post has 0 to do with anything and responds to FF? you don't even post on this page, the page before it or the page after it.

Crap wrong post. Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=89#1762
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:27 GMT
#3190
On February 20 2015 10:26 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:21 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

so wait, you're meta reading me as mafia when you have no idea about my town play and I am not emulating my mafia play?

WHAT?

Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.

It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still.

Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309


what in the holy fuck? this post has 0 to do with anything and responds to FF? you don't even post on this page, the page before it or the page after it.

Crap wrong post. Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=89#1762


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On February 20 2015 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Truncated quote:

On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.



So basically, there's only one time in the ENTIRE thread where HtS replies to lightningstrike about ritoky, and that's this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771576 talks about ritoky passivity as town vs scum, and his engagmeent with scumreads, with lightningstrike, sepcifically asking about meta

and it does not line up because there's no mention DrH or the fact that ritoky is less aggressive. She's asking questions:

On February 17 2015 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to.

Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US.



I think this is a fine reason to lynch both LS and HtS


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On February 20 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


What's even worse is here is LS town reading me early in the game for my meta of not tunneling and fighting, which he has now flipped to scum read me for what reason exactly?

Thank you for this find BH, I only read the HtS portion of this interaction.

I ninja'd you the post above yous
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 01:27 GMT
#3191
On February 20 2015 10:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 10:26 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:21 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 10:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]
Only saw your Mafia games but never your town games and the database isn't up ti date yet.


I mean, regardless of your alignment. If you don't have an understanding of someone's play as both alignments, why in the hell would you ever try to meta read them?

Beyond that, it's your only stated reason for scum reading me and you just openly invalidated it.

I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.

It's in her filter but I will dig it up now since you asking for this. I;m back guys I forgot to say that I was going out to dinner with my Mom so catching up still.

Found it and it was me talking to HTS and which HTS responded to me that's why it might not be in my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=16#309


what in the holy fuck? this post has 0 to do with anything and responds to FF? you don't even post on this page, the page before it or the page after it.

Crap wrong post. Here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?page=89#1762


On February 20 2015 09:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Truncated quote:

On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote:
On February 20 2015 07:13 LightningStrike wrote:
I only invalidated it through POE but that was main source you getting being Antitown (SK or Mafia) and also HTS told me pretty much that you started to tunnel her but you didn't seen as agressive you were towards Me or Dr.H in the 2 previous games you were Mafia so you might as well show me your knife.


still kinda interested in this. she told you this where?

cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you?

cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt.



So basically, there's only one time in the ENTIRE thread where HtS replies to lightningstrike about ritoky, and that's this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23771576 talks about ritoky passivity as town vs scum, and his engagmeent with scumreads, with lightningstrike, sepcifically asking about meta

and it does not line up because there's no mention DrH or the fact that ritoky is less aggressive. She's asking questions:

On February 17 2015 06:11 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


You're saying he's more passive as town than scum? He's talking a lot about his scumreads, but I don't know if he's not engaging his scumreads because he's unable to.

Last I recall his four scumreads were Lian, Breshke, myself and Rayn and none of us are in the US.



I think this is a fine reason to lynch both LS and HtS


On February 20 2015 09:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 17 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I think ritoky is town this game since he not fighting anyone at all like he did in his two games when I saw him play as Mafia.


What's even worse is here is LS town reading me early in the game for my meta of not tunneling and fighting, which he has now flipped to scum read me for what reason exactly?

Thank you for this find BH, I only read the HtS portion of this interaction.

I ninja'd you the post above yours

EBWOP: Fixed spelling.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 02:31 GMT
#3224
I will admit my formatting is kind of bad and I got to ritoky on POE Damdred if you look in my big ass post in my filter. BTW Serial Killer just kill me please? I will give Tacos and BBQ if you do!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 02:38 GMT
#3228
On February 20 2015 11:35 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
I will admit my formatting is kind of bad and I got to ritoky on POE Damdred if you look in my big ass post in my filter. BTW Serial Killer just kill me please? I will give Tacos and BBQ if you do!


Lol and then I wonder why I bother >< You know I pulled this exact same trick in my one scum game on this site?

Ya but Breshke was smart and killed JAT Also Marv convinced me that bats was just being a dumb town and that made my POE easy for me to get you as Mafia
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 02:40 GMT
#3229
On February 20 2015 11:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
I will admit my formatting is kind of bad and I got to ritoky on POE Damdred if you look in my big ass post in my filter. BTW Serial Killer just kill me please? I will give Tacos and BBQ if you do!

Please don't martyr. I know being pushed sucks but can you tell me what you think of rso's defense of you?

She knows me well and looks like town by meta for me. She probably the best person in this game that can read me. When she was Mafia she called my play strange and shit in Horns of Africa but it's because she was Mafia and wanted to easy lynch people. What would she gain if she was Mafia when I'm seen as the biggest mislynch this game?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 02:45 GMT
#3233
On February 20 2015 11:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 11:38 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:35 rsoultin wrote:
On February 20 2015 11:31 LightningStrike wrote:
I will admit my formatting is kind of bad and I got to ritoky on POE Damdred if you look in my big ass post in my filter. BTW Serial Killer just kill me please? I will give Tacos and BBQ if you do!


Lol and then I wonder why I bother >< You know I pulled this exact same trick in my one scum game on this site?

Ya but Breshke was smart and killed JAT Also Marv convinced me that bats was just being a dumb town and that made my POE easy for me to get you as Mafia


Yeah, well, three confirmed towns and you the fourth in a pool of five lol xP not exactly like that was hard, LS. If you're town, cut this out now. You realize that if another two town players are lost tonight we basically have to lynch scum tomorrow? If you're scum, carry on.

Ugh did you check my POE? Ya I got exactly 5 players that I think are Antitown (Mafia or SK) so therefore sheep my reads?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 02:47 GMT
#3236
On February 20 2015 11:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, to answer your wifom question, she is probably aware that robik and I have been scumreading you all game and that getting a wagon to stop while in the hands of BH+ritoky+robik is futile. If you are town, does her fervent defense of you not seem like TMI?

I told you she knows me very well and infact in her very first game she got my alignment correct when I was mafia and every since she called my alignment correctly except the one time she was Mafia but that was it.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 03:53 GMT
#3256
Superbia may I suggest reading rsoultin's filter from Horns of Africa Mini Mafia when she was Mafia and compare it her other games she had played when she was town? Also for HTS's Mafia play check Newbie LX and Void Mafia and compare those to the her other games when she town?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 05:20 GMT
#3314
Oh dear.............. One town player down from my pool. Hmm I might need to just not meta at all maybe O_o
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 14:24 GMT
#3372
HTS you forgot Mafia is Blue this game? Also I will fight my lynch with everything I got and if I failed to defend the push good enough and got lynched then it's my fault. I been mislynched before once HTS in Newbie LX which I still not forgiven her on that and by KSC in Campus when he counterclaimed my Cop claim when he was VT............... You can also tell if I town based on how I defend my myself as I also did get mislynched in MYLO in Metal when I figured out Mafia but Kush was on tunneled on me in MYLO. You can tell if I'm based on how I defend myself as town compared to when I was Mafia. Here my games where I got mislynched as town:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike (Very first game in TL Mafia)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474146-newbie-mini-mafia-lx?user=LightningStrike (My most recent game when I got mislynched)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
Here the game where I was lynched as Mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 16:19 GMT
#3375
So any updates yet rsoultin?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
February 20 2015 16:25 GMT
#3376
Guys I going to pick up my Dad from the airport so I will be back after a couple of hours but when I come back I will try to give my refined list as I still need to do that >.>
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