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On February 04 2015 12:35 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:28 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 11:37 Eden1892 wrote: Quote the post in question that most made you think "This guy is mafia" We done arguing over semantics yet? I know you aren't ignoring the posts literally immediately above and below that post in my filter which restrict answers to the marv/Damdred exchange And also WAIT A MINUTE You've been talking about the HF/Damdred exchange when your initial comments were about marv/Damdred And? Damdred saying weird things about marv is less concerning than him saying weird things about marv and then ducking the question. I don't actually know what, lol I feel like I'm tunnel on you maybe? Lemme look at LS instead
Ya think? -_-
Bueno, HF, can you put your suspicions in a concise form for me? I really think Eden's right about the marv comment, after Damdred explained it.
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On February 04 2015 12:43 Eden1892 wrote: Zzz if you're ignoring me about Damdred then I'm not gonna bother replying to that and spend time doing more productive stuff
Like how does LS get off criticizing sicklucker for not reading the thread when LS's vote is literally not based in any semblance of things that actually happened in the thread
It's based on, what, the two games he's played with you when you were scum? You've played with LS before. How is that different from his town play?
I'm more concerned about him defending me, cause scum loves to defend me as you proved last game, Eden. That's not really outside the norm for him, either, though.
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On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote: im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1 Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............
Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.
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On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote: im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1 Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that............... Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading. Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense. I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.
Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.
It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.
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On February 04 2015 12:56 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 12:46 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:43 Eden1892 wrote: Zzz if you're ignoring me about Damdred then I'm not gonna bother replying to that and spend time doing more productive stuff
Like how does LS get off criticizing sicklucker for not reading the thread when LS's vote is literally not based in any semblance of things that actually happened in the thread It's based on, what, the two games he's played with you when you were scum? You've played with LS before. How is that different from his town play? I'm more concerned about him defending me, cause scum loves to defend me as you proved last game, Eden. That's not really outside the norm for him, either, though. Seems like LS tries more as town? Just from a cursory glance at a couple of his town games
Yeah, if he keeps barely trying he's definitely lynchable. That would marry up to the game I lynched him as scum.
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On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote: He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is
Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now?
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On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it 
I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS?
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On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also.
Because?
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On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote: im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1 Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that............... Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading. Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense. I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly. Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game. It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you. I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE. The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game. "Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here: - He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town. - By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.
I absolutely agree that that's the appropriate way to use meta, and it's even better if you've played with that player as both alignments, more than just a game or two, but I'm saying LS does this like every game. The same argument you used about trolling (and I was never arguing that you can't troll as town) can be used regarding him and how he uses meta. It's simply not alignment-indicative for LS imo to make that sort of read.
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On February 04 2015 13:12 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote: He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now? You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from. I also don't like LS I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null.
It's as simple as Damdred made some strange comments and then appearing to be deliberately avoiding the question. I have no reason to scumread him otherwise because I really don't see what the big deal was about him questioning Eden's list.
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On February 04 2015 13:24 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:22 Eden1892 wrote:On February 04 2015 13:20 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 13:17 Eden1892 wrote: LS, answer me honestly.
Have you caught up with the thread fully yet? Yes. Make a case for me being mafia. You have me as your only scumread, you should be able to make a pretty coherent one. It just meta alone but also I just might be paranoid because the last 2 times I played with you in fact you were scum. I did the same thing to Breshke in Student V because just 2 games before that game that I played with him he was scum so it could just be paranoia again on my read on you so take it with a grain of salt.
LS, is this still just about trolling?
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On February 04 2015 13:26 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:18 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:12 Breshke wrote:On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote: He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now? You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from. I also don't like LS I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null. It's as simple as Damdred made some strange comments and then appearing to be deliberately avoiding the question. I have no reason to scumread him otherwise because I really don't see what the big deal was about him questioning Eden's list. So do you still scumread him?
Obviously not? He came back in and explained his comments later, and they made sense.
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On February 04 2015 13:07 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:04 sicklucker wrote:On February 04 2015 11:49 Onegu wrote: Lol I come back and HF thinks I'm scum. You know you can't read me Yep and thats probably why we lynch you at some point Yep and that's why I'm town.
Onegu, I'm still waiting to hear why you're scumreading me, and secondly why you're willing to sheep marv on Damdred.
This...what are you trying to say here? That HF only thinks you're scum when you're town? You do realize that defense doesn't hold weight with any of us who haven't played a lot with you two together?
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On February 04 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:11 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 Breshke wrote: Onegu who do you want to lynch? Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also. Because? My brain says so. It's a feeling!
I missed that post. My bad. Well...enjoy your feelings I guess? So why is HF wrong?
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On February 04 2015 13:35 Onegu wrote: Oh and because it's marv that's posting, that means he is town. Also as I pointed out you tried to make marv look bad.
At what point did I ever try to make marv look bad, Onegu?
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On February 04 2015 13:32 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:28 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:26 Breshke wrote:On February 04 2015 13:18 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:12 Breshke wrote:On February 04 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 12:56 Breshke wrote: He also doesn't seem to be as engaged as he normally is Bresh, do you have any scumreads right now? You, i don't like the entire damdred thing. You seemed happy to park your vote until you got pinged out. And then trying to folllow the conversation between you and eden about why you scumread damdred gives me a headache and i still don't really get where you are coming from. I also don't like LS I want to scumread SL out of spite because "he only tries when he is mafia" and is seemingly going through the thread and replying to stuff now so he is trying yes? But thats just SL so null. It's as simple as Damdred made some strange comments and then appearing to be deliberately avoiding the question. I have no reason to scumread him otherwise because I really don't see what the big deal was about him questioning Eden's list. So do you still scumread him? Obviously not? He came back in and explained his comments later, and they made sense. lol awks my bad I might actually want to lynch sicklucker today. His last two posts have no direction anything i don't see why he felt the need to post them other than just to post stuff
I think I could get behind that lynch. The last time he wasn't all spazzy and paranoid in the thread, he was scum.
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On February 04 2015 13:39 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:11 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 Breshke wrote: Onegu who do you want to lynch? Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also. Because? My brain says so. It's a feeling! I missed that post. My bad. Well...enjoy your feelings I guess? So why is HF wrong? If HF is town and I'm scum HF thinks im scum, if HF is scum and im town HF says I'm scum, if HF is town and im town HF thinks im scum. If I'm scum and HF is scum we bus the shit out of each other. So the only way HF is right is if I am scum. I am town therefore He is wrong or scum. But prolly just wrong.
So what you're telling me is that he always calls you scum and that means nothing about your actual alignment. Okay, so why should I think you're town, when you're scumreading me based on feels and misinformation?
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On February 04 2015 13:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:On February 04 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 13:41 Damdred wrote:On February 04 2015 13:12 LightningStrike wrote:On February 04 2015 13:04 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:02 LightningStrike wrote:Okay I understand why people calling me scum on my meta alone but I been playing some LoL games with my clan that's all and honestly I only played with scum!Eden and I getting a strange feeling from him this game that he might be scum but he seems sarcastic and trolling a lot earlier but he seem to be more serious now that how he was in our last game so (shrugs) Also I defended you rsoultin because I know you pretty damn well and you know it  I know you defend me a lot so I'm less suspicious when you do it vice other people. Where are your reads now, LS? So far seems to be Eden possible scum but it just might be paranoia on my part and I did unvote him since I can't get a train going. Damdred Null leaning his actions early were pretty questionable to how he normally plays but he seemed to look better for now. Sicklucker might be town but the last time I gave him a free pass on Day 1 he was scum I will have to hold off on that for now. Marv and Palmar are town since they made a decent case on Damdred being scum and followed up on it. JAT is most likely town he doesn't seem to be like a dick like he was when he was scum in Void Mafia. HF null I only played with him as scum only seemed him as town for 1 game but I can't tell the difference for now. Bats null he made to little posts for me to read him correctly. Onegu might be possible town but I never played with him before but he got a couple good questions but his filter length is pretty small too. Breshke town he asking lots of questions about me like he did in Student V and trying to make a meta case on me being scum. This is the most horrible post in the entire thread. Firstly LS shows little understanding of what is going on in the thread, First he has a scum read on eden (who is really towny btw) for no reasons at all basically just trolling earlier when it was a play rather than trolling. Now he calls my actions into question that I did earlier but doesn't give any information about them at all, I questioned his scum read but my actions are questionable? This is just a mafia post if I've seen one Mainly your stuff about rsoultin because I think she is town. Can you tell me why I'm wrong if you think rsoultin is scum? I've already said why in the thread that you are ignoring. Rsoultin is really side lined up until she was pinged out not really been doing any of the towny traits you put towards her. She did the same thing in Student V so it most likely non alignment indicative on that part.
What? Pretty sure I was hard-pushing Trfel early in Student V, LS. It's only the last 2-3 games where I've been trying to cut back on my posting, and am constantly getting scumread for it -_- which is fucking annoying btw, Damdred. Reread my filter and tell me I wasn't being proactive before I was "pinged out".
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On February 04 2015 13:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 13:46 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:42 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:39 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:34 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:11 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 04 2015 13:03 Onegu wrote:On February 04 2015 12:49 Breshke wrote: Onegu who do you want to lynch? Rsoultin for now, would sheep marv on Damdred also. Because? My brain says so. It's a feeling! I missed that post. My bad. Well...enjoy your feelings I guess? So why is HF wrong? If HF is town and I'm scum HF thinks im scum, if HF is scum and im town HF says I'm scum, if HF is town and im town HF thinks im scum. If I'm scum and HF is scum we bus the shit out of each other. So the only way HF is right is if I am scum. I am town therefore He is wrong or scum. But prolly just wrong. So what you're telling me is that he always calls you scum and that means nothing about your actual alignment. Okay, so why should I think you're town, when you're scumreading me based on feels and misinformation? You shouldn't... But you can sheep Marvs read on me when he is back, marv always knows when I am scum and when I am town.
I just love this sort of answer. Something that I can't in any way verify.
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On February 04 2015 13:53 Damdred wrote: LS is scum vote for him.
Rsoultin you weren't really proactive up to that point afterwards you did get more so towards your town game
I'm not saying I don't expect you to OMGUS me for not explaining my vote, or jump on the same stupid bandwagon that's formed every one of my last three games because I'm not thought dumping into the thread right off the bat. I agree that you pushing me for lynch is not alignment-indicative cause it seems to be the cool thing to do nowadays. Doesn't make it any more true that I wasn't "inquisitive" though.
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