Horn of Africa Mini Mafia - Page 28

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 14:29 GMT

#5392

On February 10 2015 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
there's a significant difference between me voting bats ----> afk and voting bats and then thinking about the game.

which i think you can well understand.

my gut says you're right, but I need to double-check my gut tonight. meh, I've got work

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 14:32 GMT

#5398

On February 10 2015 23:27 LightningStrike wrote:

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I did and I think he really is town just dumb town. I think if he's town I found my mafia. I love you rsoultin but I think your the last mafia this game despite me not wanting to admit but I think you got to be mafia just by PoE alone and the fact that you forgot how confident I was in Student V. I;m sorry if this will hurt your feelings rsoultin.
##Vote: rsoultin

rofl, you weren't confident in Student V! People thought you were scum for all your null reads and sheeping. whatever. obviously if you're mafia you're going to vote for me, instead of going against the 3 claims you know are probably true. who are you going to try to get lynched in LYLO though?

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 14:37 GMT

#5404

On February 10 2015 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
I also was very confident in Linux rsoultin.

Maybe. I don't remember much of you in Linux, actually. And I just confused Newbie with Student. Meh. I really don't have the time. I have to go.

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 19:12 GMT

#5436

On February 11 2015 00:43 marvellosity wrote:
##Vote: rsoultin

This is where I stand at the moment. I think a lot of the bizarre interactions between mafia lend themselves to rsoultin being mafia. The whole Koshi/rs/jat stuff on n1->d2 especially. Additionally, going back to check Carol reminds me of how town leader-y rsoultin was in that game. She was powerful and persuasive (if wrong). This game she is neither powerful nor persuasive, she's more of a backseat passenger.

Reading LS's filter, frankly it just looks quite town to me. The timing of the jat case which I jumped on at the time was nowhere near as bad as I thought. For some reason I remembered it coming right at EoD when it came the next day, not sure what happened there. And I think there are some gems in LS's filter that I can't see him replicating as mafia. Whereas I think rsoultin can replicate everything she did as mafia.

You're either stuck in confirmation bias or misrepresenting things on purpose again. Read any of my town games. I am "town-leadery" in the absence of town leadership. There was nothing leadery about me until most of the vets were slaughtered in Carol. I took the reigns of the newbie game almost instantly, but certainly haven't led any of my town games since, with the exception of protoss where I had a red-check and was confirmed.

Koshi was hardly the only one who commented on my joke. Just because he's mafia and they weren't it conveniently becomes a scumslip?

These things are being twisted to suit your predisposition to see me lynched today. And don't think it escapes me, marv, that if you're scum I am absolutely your biggest threat going into LYLO.

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 23:53 GMT

#5459

lol -_-

you know, marv, I find it very, very interesting that you can take me from super, very, very town to "she can do this as either alignment", and ls from definite scum to a nice way of essentially saying "he's too bad a player to post like this and still be scum", while in the same breath imply that if I ever change my reads for any reason it's scummy? using your miller claim as your defense, no less, when it seems we either should or shouldn't believe it according to whatever better suits your agenda at the moment

gah, I still need to read filters, bresh, but my knee-jerk reaction to this (OMGUS I'll admit) is he just described his own mafia motivation for his sudden read changes to a T

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 23:57 GMT

#5462

also, calling BS on you right now for my not being your biggest threat. if the vote is between you and me, vice you and ls, in lylo you're much more likely to be lynched, and you know it

gonna think for awhile. if anyone has questions, please ask. i'll try to answer promptly

rsoultin

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February 10 2015 23:59 GMT

#5464

On February 11 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
btw rsoultin, it's not the same at all.

Breshke: "I really think it's bats"
LS: "the bats claims make no sense, he's mafia"
rsoultin: "vote: bats"

I *removed* someone from the table that literally everyone else was suspicious of at once.

But sure babe, i'm trying to OPEN up my options.

try again. my vote was clearly policy because he refused to answer

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:05 GMT

#5470

On February 11 2015 08:55 Breshke wrote:
I really like what marv is saying and it doesn't really matter what his alignment is because he almost certainly gets lynched next day phase.

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This post is strange looking back on it. You call koshi possible mafia here RSo yet before this you mention him maybe twice and it is never about his alignment just someone elves motives on reading him. Then after this post you basically do not interact with koshi at all. I don't think town rsoultin does this. You have someone as possible mafia you would try and discern their alignment.

I also find your vote at the end of D1 concerning since yeah you said you were going to sheep eden and eden was on koshi and you didn't vote koshi but voted onegu when eden swapped. I could see this as a coincidence as town but koshi was on onegus wagon and this didn't even seem to give you pause and you don't even seem tor register it.

You do realize I voted Onegu before koshi did, in the very last few minutes?

I'd barely had time to engage with anyone Day 1. As I've said multiple times, scum me for being inactive if you like, but that's all this means.

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:07 GMT

#5474

On February 11 2015 09:01 marvellosity wrote:
definitely not "I want to lynch bats this cycle but i'm pussyfooting around it", but policy. gotcha

Completely. Out. Of. Context.

My reason is right before that in my filter no less. If you're town, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I very clearly was trying to determine bats' motivation, said straight up before my vote that he needed to answer the questions, then left my vote on him. Yes I used the wrong damn word, but anyone reading my filter or the thread not thinking that was a pressure vote is an imbecile or scum.

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:09 GMT

#5477

On February 11 2015 09:09 marvellosity wrote:
A pressure vote 270 pages in? alright

To get him to talk about his read on you? Are you seriously this dumb?

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:12 GMT

#5480

On February 10 2015 10:54 rsoultin wrote:
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damn. just damn. if marv's the miller, bats is the cop. and if marv's not the miller, he's scum, and bats is still probably the cop. the lynch today isn't between bats and ls >< it's between ls and marv

how the fuck is this keeping my options open on bats? I posted this before the post you linked, then breshke mentioned there could still be a miller without a cop

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:13 GMT

#5481

the one narrowing options down as quick as he possibly can is you

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:14 GMT

#5482

you want the entire thread to think that the only person who I could possibly vote for today is ls, so you can say haha see, she scumread me, she must be scum

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:17 GMT

#5486

On February 11 2015 09:14 marvellosity wrote:
yes, thank you for noticing

I'm willing to go all-in on people being town, and force others (i.e. you) to call people town, so that mafia (you) don't have other outs.

well you know what, marv? i'm not going to be bullied by you. if you're fucking scummy when I finish looking at you, i'm going to say so and just call everyone else an idiot when they mislynch me and take this game to lylo

if people think that just because you "mentioned it first" (I actually did numbnuts) that means you're town, they're just stupid

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:19 GMT

#5488

On February 11 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:

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Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points

I'm listening

I already did. That's your nice way of saying ls is too bad a player to do this as scum

you're just a sweetheart, aren't you?

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:24 GMT

#5491

On February 11 2015 09:20 marvellosity wrote:
I didn't ask you to paraphrase or interpret what I said, I asked you for your opinion on those specific things

I don't know yet, marv. I just got home from work while you've had all day. I don't know how those things explicitly make him town, at first glance, but that doesn't mean I won't change my opinion when I've actually had a chance to think -_-

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:27 GMT

#5494

On February 11 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:

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Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points

I'm listening

These two points are the better ones. The others are blah. Saying he's not artful enough is just saying he's bad (the source of my snark) and the rsoultin-koshi joke thing means nothing if he's a mafia partner with koshi. Obviously he had scum partners who could help him with how to post in this game (something he didn't actually have in our Student game, because both of his partners were AWOL) so he could feasibly do better as scum here than several games ago playing essentially alone, and to suggest otherwise is naïve.

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:29 GMT

#5496

On February 11 2015 09:24 Breshke wrote:

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Yeah but iirc eden clearly said he wanted to lynch between onegu and koshi. Koshi was only voting SL because he didn't want to get lynched and said he would switch back to ongeu.

Also i get you were busy but why when you were in the thread did you not use any of your posts to try and work out koshi's alignment.

We weren't in the thread at the same time except during the day when I could barely post? I already explained why I didn't vote for koshi immediately. Eden was waffling and asked something about his push on Breshke, so I went to his filter.

rsoultin

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February 11 2015 00:30 GMT

#5498

On February 11 2015 09:29 marvellosity wrote:
Like, I don't think the way I went after rsoultin today has been in any way unfair, and she is making out like i'm ridiculous.

I went through filters.

I got the thread to realise bats was town.

Then I went back to rsoul's/LS's filter and I produced several things that LS did that I think strongly indicate he was town, and I just couldn't do the same for rsoultin.

None of this is being unreasonable but she's in here shouting at me as a bully and I'm really scummy for thinking like this. I don't think any of how I've gone about this is remotely scummy.

Lol ^ like you'd say anything different as either alignment?