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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 05:57 GMT
#675
nope, i don't care right now. too mad to bother.

someone else show up in the thread and do something. hell, liancourt, do something. you have onegu as top scum, why not go after him yourself?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 05:57 GMT
#676
thank you based hts
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 05:58 GMT
#679
but not about toad. just about tr'ing liancourt

toad could still possibly be mafia i guess but idt it's worth exploring d1. let's get onegu instead ya?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 06:00 GMT
#681
On January 27 2015 14:58 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 14:54 Eden1892 wrote:
this is what's so infuriating. you have an alleged scum read on me due to "meta," but it's obvious from your posts that you aren't even looking at the game YOU HOSTED where i was town. you never considered it when you gave your "meta" read on me, your reaction to my attempts to question you was exactly the wrong response that anyone should take away from my play in that town game.

just what are you doing??


like what are you trying to do with this post? Calling me scum? Defending yourself?

I'm scum hunting. I thought we were going to discuss onegu. Why are you still on this?

venting
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:05 GMT
#696
On January 27 2015 18:00 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
All people wanting to lynch Liancourt, I urge you to please wait 3-5h until he wakes up before pushing his lynch. He is unable to defend himself because he's asleep.

Perspective please.


This guy is town.

qtpi aint no guy
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:07 GMT
#697
4 palmar only
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 27 2015 15:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 14:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Sanity please. Good morning.

Took about 10m to skim through. Will post my initial impressions before I jet for work.

I'll look a little harder into Liancourt's posting, but I have some thoughts and some criticisms.

This post from Lian is making me reconsider a scum read on him. Here's why:

On January 27 2015 13:51 liancourt wrote:
@toad

I know you're trying to be the thread mayor and all, but I really expected HF/marv/koshi level play from you, but I'm somewhat disappointed...maybe I had high expectations of you or maybe you're holding back for some reason. It's like you're playing politics and moderating everything instead of pointing fingers and pushing things hard.



How many scumreads does Toad have right now? From what I can tell, zero.

This part of Lian's post is making me think that what if a (potential) mafia Toad could cruise on being so widely townread? It doesn't look likely at this point, but the fact that it made me think, and it shows that Lian has made some broad observation of a player relative to the entire game, despite Toad himself only having a three page filter.

I took a look at Toad's filter, and he seems to be in that information gathering/analysing phase of scumhunting, but if I don't see him pushing something/someone soon, I might just start to wonder. His first vote was on Liancourt on what I believed to be a pressure vote and then he unvoted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still reading Toad as town, but this was a very provocative post by Lian and makes me think he's town for this observation. At the very least, I might actually move him upwards from my scumpile.

I'm one of the guys that figures out who's town and lynches into whoever is left, starting with the guy my stomach likes the least as I'm usually incredibly confident in my townreads. You're probably not going to see me make long cases about people being mafia. That mostly goes out to you and lian who said he expected me to be someone like Marv/HF... I even told you that I'm the kind of guy that just looks cute and everyone wants to cuddle :3

That being said, a walkthrough of my thoughts lately would be: We lynch into Eden / Lian / Onegu, preferably Lian or Onegu at the point of when I made my general list. Robik if we havn't won by then.

Right now I'm fairly confident that I don't want to touch Eden at all, he has been quite impressive the last 24~30 hours or so and like I already said I agree with that one point on GB you did, so he dropped in my list. So for right now it's between Onegu and Lian, leaning towards Onegu. GB for me is an option I'd be willing to discuss but that to me has the same value as a policy lynch because a potential mislynch on GB would be a disaster. Meaning if that guy ends up town we had the easiest votedump for mafia ever for d1. Onegu has that under-the-radar but not just completly afk feel to him I don't like. Lian I have to reread some because people apparently think he got super towny in the last couple hours?

I'd also like to add Palmar to the list because he still hasn't done shit at all but let's be honest here, he knows me good enough to know that I'd only be pressuring and asking people to give him one more day if push comes to shove. I've seen him behave exactly like this as town multiple times (I think? at least once), which doesn't make him town but I'd try to avoid that lynch d1.

this post is why he might be mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:07 GMT
#698
lian is town because there's no way he's mafia

qed
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:07 GMT
#699
look robik im so town with all my multiposts
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:09 GMT
#701
On January 27 2015 18:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:05 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 27 2015 18:00 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
All people wanting to lynch Liancourt, I urge you to please wait 3-5h until he wakes up before pushing his lynch. He is unable to defend himself because he's asleep.

Perspective please.


This guy is town.

qtpi aint no guy

okay, thank you for supplying valuable information.

stop reading. you'll be disappointed as the value of my information in subsequent posts greatly declines
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:17 GMT
#702
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town

So this leaves:

GB
lian
Toad
Onegu

But then again I'm bad and idk.

The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?

I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.

no visceraeyes on list. ._?_0_i
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:36 GMT
#704
bruh you just said GB has the same value as a policy lynch
how you gonna turn around and be like "oh yeah lian/onegu/gb were my lynches"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 09:50 GMT
#705
god damn it my filter's on page 8

that's at least 3 pages too many for d1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 10:04 GMT
#707
oki. is liancourt town? i decided he was but it's hard for me to evaluate him
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 10:09 GMT
#709
On January 27 2015 19:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 18:36 Eden1892 wrote:
bruh you just said GB has the same value as a policy lynch
how you gonna turn around and be like "oh yeah lian/onegu/gb were my lynches"

I said GB flipping town would be the same as a failed policy lynch which is the reason he's behind the other two despite being on the same "level" for me. He might even be slightly more scummy.

you're worrying too much about how the wagons might or might not look at EOD and too little about tracking down and lynching your suspects. refocus please
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 18:55 GMT
#867
I came back to, what, 150? posts expecting something cool to have happened. All I see is shouting and egos flying.

Congrats to everyone but HTS for making the past 5 pages unreadable. I figured after I did it we would all see that it was a huge mistake and not ever do it again~
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 18:56 GMT
#869
We better not be on five. Someone unvote. We still have a whole day left to discuss this y'all! What are you throwing away more time to figure the game out for?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:00 GMT
#874
On January 28 2015 03:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote:
We better not be on five. Someone unvote. We still have a whole day left to discuss this y'all! What are you throwing away more time to figure the game out for?


Just checked. Palmar unvoted.

The four currently on GB (in order): HTS, Robik, Toad, VE

Please unvote
I know you really want this lynch, and we can have it later if you want. But we have 1d4h left. Don't throw it away
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:00 GMT
#876
On January 28 2015 03:59 Toadesstern wrote:
What are the chances of Palmer picking me as his target of choice if he were to be mafia VE?
What Palmar has done so far is:
1) have a fun time and not caring a lot (town-ish)
2) ask a bunch of oneline questions inbetween that might seem like they do something but havn't actually ever ended up producing anything (mafia-ish)
3) And finally he did that one big post about me

I was waiting for Palmars first big thing and see what it would be. The fact that it's about me and I know it to be bullshit makes things a bit difficult to judge here... I mean I understand the misunderstanding, at the same time Eden picked the exact same thing up, I explained it to him and it's apparently bad phrasing from me if that's how those two read it

I just don't think I'd be the guy he'd go after if he's mafia. He'd have an easier time going after one of Onegu, GB and Lian given that most people, including myself want them somewhat dead and at least one of them has to be town.

Please unvote
I know you really want this lynch, and we can have it later if you want. But we have 1d4h left. Don't throw it away
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:00 GMT
#877
On January 28 2015 03:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:49 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
GB my reasoning is simple. Your "mind dump" posts looked very much like trying to appear contributory to me. This is exacerbated by the fact that once called out on them you simply stopped doing them. Earlier on in the game your posting had a theme of "BRB guys, I'm reading but I'll BRB I'm doing something else BRB" and since you've returned you've seemed really defensive.


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What are you even saying here? My reasons for being suspicious of GB are documented, and verily even referenced by other players. Are you trying to discredit me or troll me?

I'm saying that that read is what I've already said. Coulda just said "i think he's mafia for the reasons that robik stated earlier"

Please unvote
I know you really want this lynch, and we can have it later if you want. But we have 1d4h left. Don't throw it away
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 27 2015 19:00 GMT
#878
On January 28 2015 03:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 28 2015 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
GB my reasoning is simple. Your "mind dump" posts looked very much like trying to appear contributory to me. This is exacerbated by the fact that once called out on them you simply stopped doing them. Earlier on in the game your posting had a theme of "BRB guys, I'm reading but I'll BRB I'm doing something else BRB" and since you've returned you've seemed really defensive.


You consider risking voting for myself to be defensive?
To say that my mind notes posts are forced contribution, I want you to tell me if my reads are fluff. If they aren't fluff, they are actual contribution, so half of your reasons were debunked.


##Vote: GlowingBear

I don't have to tell you shit. I don't care if you THINK you've debunked my reasons. Please, tell me again how voting for yourself makes you town. Get lynched, GB.

Please unvote
I know you really want this lynch, and we can have it later if you want. But we have 1d4h left. Don't throw it away
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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