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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
January 18 2015 16:40 GMT
#23
/in
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VayneAuthority
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January 19 2015 17:45 GMT
#91
sup im here most of the day which is weird, have my first monday off in quite some time.

I think everyone should write a sentence about how much they enjoyed Artanis' flavor and those who can't procure an emotional reaction from me are probably mafia because they are too rigid from anxiety to create a beautiful memoir.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 19 2015 22:52 GMT
#167
so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys
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January 19 2015 23:10 GMT
#175
On January 20 2015 07:55 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 20 2015 07:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys


because of anything I said or other stuff? Want to vote him with me?


uh yea that post is one reason. that seems really really forced, like i cant even begin to fathom a town person ever making that post it just makes no sense. His filter reads like the script for a new simpsons episode.

On January 20 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
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On January 20 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
Never to early, and what oats did is pretty crappy in retrospect.


why didn't you comment on it being crappy earlier? especially when he calls you out specifically?


lel who cares

rest is mainly filler/unimportant but you can look through it yourselves if you want. idk maybe he's an awkward fellow its early to classify anyone as scum but just throwin it out there
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 21 2015 03:39 GMT
#1077
##vote:alakaslam seemz like good place to lynch if we cant decide on anything concrete
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 22 2015 00:08 GMT
#1586
Anyone can tell me why batsnacks isnt mafia?
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
January 22 2015 00:08 GMT
#1587
also I retract my kelsier scum read.
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 00:06 GMT
#1987
I'd like to see a second kill before I jump on the wifom truck, slam as mafia is much more convincing and important given the state of the game

##vote: alakaslam
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 00:36 GMT
#1991
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 01:09 GMT
#1997
On January 23 2015 10:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?


never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 01:12 GMT
#2002
On January 23 2015 10:10 Vivax wrote:
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On January 23 2015 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 23 2015 10:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?


never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me


Why do you play mafia?
I will request a fucking ban for you if you don't do shit this game.


why do you make meta cases on people and expect me to care if I have never played with them before? I already don't care about meta in general, let alone players that I dont even know who they are.

fyi what you are doing right now is more bannable on the rules so good luck bud
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 01:14 GMT
#2003
Anyways if you want to play a little game vivax, if you can get somebody to claim a blue role then your analysis will be worthwhile.
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 01:16 GMT
#2006
On January 23 2015 10:16 Vivax wrote:
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On January 23 2015 10:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
Anyways if you want to play a little game vivax, if you can get somebody to claim a blue role then your analysis will be worthwhile.


Why should I want a blue to claim?

So scum kills them the next night?


depends on if you think trading a blue role for a mafia is worthwhile or not, your call.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 02:07 GMT
#2010
ironically that is my job in real life lol, i work in the psychiatric field..

and nevermind. we'll play this game later on probably.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 14:26 GMT
#2040
alright ill vote HTS

##vote: Half the Sky
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 16:00 GMT
#2075
Its more the fact that alakaslam is the only person that posts during most of my free hours, so idk who im supposed to be talking to/posting with.

anyways I will write my case on batsnacks now i have some time
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 16:20 GMT
#2089
So, a few problems I see with batsnacks posting.

1. His filter is filled with a lot of questions, too many questions. It feigns not having information and is a common scum tactic to appear naive to others. The most important part is that these questions never get followed up on, they are simply there to bolster his filter and make himself look out of the loop.

2. He is shaming people to validate the opinions of others, looking to create ties with them and simultaneously breeding mistrust. Some examples of that:

On January 21 2015 03:23 batsnacks wrote:
Vivax isn't it weird that marv is okay with you using "bad" associative reads to justify your vote on SL?

Marv said your associative reads were scummy, shouldn't marv be concerned that you are using scummy tactics to push his lynch target?


On January 22 2015 13:08 batsnacks wrote:
Chill out Damdred oats can't go more than half a two sentence post without calling someone bad


On January 24 2015 00:38 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 24 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Also since I didn't explicitly say it in the above, I would definitely say at this point leaning scum on both Slam and VA based on the points presented. Leaning town on Bats. Scum on Oats.


I don't think all three scum are lurkers, especially when va and oats have a tendency to lurk as either alignment. slam, va and oats are like the easiest targets ever too and they probably won't defend themselves. It might go a long way for you to get different reads.


The purpose of this is pretty simple, to create mutual bonds with others by sharing their disdain.

3. He needs constant rationalization for his thought process because he knows internally he's lying.

On January 20 2015 07:55 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 20 2015 07:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys


because of anything I said or other stuff? Want to vote him with me?



On January 20 2015 21:34 batsnacks wrote:
Does anyone agree with vivax?

Would anyone care if I said I agreed with him and will probably sheep him?



On January 21 2015 07:20 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop I wanted to add I play similarly as scum... I give weird free town reads. I never even realized it until someone pointed it out (I think it was damdred that pointed it out to me).

So even if SL doesn't consciously realize he's doing it doesn't mean he's not doing it. idk if that makes sense.



On January 22 2015 04:46 batsnacks wrote:
Someone townie pls tell me why my SL vote is bad? I'm curious because none of my town reads are voting hi
.


So yea there is my case on batsnacks.

Source: http://www.conservapedia.com/Psychological_manipulation
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 16:23 GMT
#2095
well yes on workdays I have about a 3 hour window to post and it was spent yesterday on a useless convo with vivax pretty much, no one else was around.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 17:52 GMT
#2122
its so I can keep my options open on future days since im scum, planning ahead :^)
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 22:11 GMT
#2194
the lovely oxymoron of being asked to put in more effort and then getting called scum for it leL
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 23 2015 22:46 GMT
#2196
we can deal with it later, if HTS is town then I will be needing to make some changes to this game and how its being played currently
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 02:42 GMT
#2203
I am here
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 03:14 GMT
#2210
doesnt matter just lynch HTS and see what happens, game is gonna change big time if shes not scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 03:19 GMT
#2214
nah you will see, you wont be a target
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 17:14 GMT
#2255
its hard to ignore a HF lynch that he was so adamant about. I don't have much of a problem with the lynch once she started talking about me and slam being on the same scumteam, I mean thats grasping pretty badly.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 17:50 GMT
#2272
On January 25 2015 02:21 Damdred wrote:
Maybe so, but HTS has given us a lot of information today even if she does flip scum which I don't find likely given with the state of the votes currently. Shes a good scum player so I don't see her given us that much information.

And that's a bit to omgus for me VA, while its an unlikely pairing I don't think its alignment indicative to think that.


I think you missed the point, a scum team consisting of me and alakaslam makes little sense. why the hell would we talk to eachother at night randomly and call eachother scum if we dont have to? its an asinine scumteam that is not in touch with the game
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 17:51 GMT
#2273
and yea Vivax could be mafia, he will play a strong day 1 and then his interest will fade like here, not out of the question
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 23:07 GMT
#2339
a quick look through the day 1 of HTS' filter ( the only important part of it) heavily suggests vivax to be scum. That and in his drop in play and yea I have no qualms lynching him tomorrow. We'll see what happens tonight.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 24 2015 23:22 GMT
#2342
not sad, lian wasnt fun to play with last game so idk why it would be different here
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 25 2015 17:17 GMT
#2456
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=Half the Sky

Anyone else wanna read the first page of that filter and tell me there isn't a weird obsession with vivax there that is never followed up on at all? Really seems like scum on scum to me but maybe I'm going crazy.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 25 2015 23:02 GMT
#2478
Yea it's true I am Koshi's mason partner so if anyone wants to CC the last blue role against me do it now or forever hold your peace.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 25 2015 23:20 GMT
#2480
eh my two scum reads are you and vivax so ill see what other people think. koshi goes on crazy tunnels sometime that dont make any sense but if vivax isn't mafia then Wile is probably where I would look. I agree with koshi for the most part.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 27 2015 16:11 GMT
#2800
alright im back from the blizzard finally, I see the thread is a mess I read everything.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 27 2015 16:22 GMT
#2804
I am really confused because my two potential scum teams are bussing the shit out of eachother but that is maybe their strategy. I thought it was vivax/bats or vivax/damdred.

I thought bats had a good chance to flip scum but I will vote damdred if thats the case here. Idk what to do with vivax, gonna use the WoS too douchy to be scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 27 2015 16:34 GMT
#2809
alright ill vote damdred with you kelsier we'll see what happens

##vote damdred
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 27 2015 17:05 GMT
#2825
well I was reading vivax filter and I can't see him making this post as scum

On January 23 2015 10:10 Vivax wrote:
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On January 23 2015 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
On January 23 2015 10:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 23 2015 09:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
slam/bats/dunno yet. I shall write something on bats later tonight, slam does not require any thought as its useless. just know that its important to lynch him and its likely hes scum.

How is HTS not scum?


never played with that person before and all the cases on HTS are meta for the most part so i can't comment on it, dont really care about things that dont concern me


Why do you play mafia?
I will request a fucking ban for you if you don't do shit this game.

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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#2924
thats a shame, one more mislynch available it seems
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VayneAuthority
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United States8983 Posts
February 02 2015 23:12 GMT
#3360
ironically that whole geript thing changed the game dramatically as I went from a townread mason partner to some one I couldnt trust and I can't bring myself to care much in games with alakaslam in them.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 02 2015 23:19 GMT
#3375
On February 03 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I made two mistakes this game.
One mistake was putting (unconfirmed mason) in Koshi's PM. I did this out of instinct since Marv had already asked if he was confirmed, so I figured I should make it more explicit. That was a very poor decision.

Other mistake was posting a fake "scum qt" in the daypost. It was funny, but it could've impacted the game as people could've been read differently depending on their reaction on it.


I never understood this, can you elaborate? did koshi and me get different PMs? I don't understnad why he couldnt figure out that I was confirmed town by my reaction. the mason was useless as a result
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United States8983 Posts
February 02 2015 23:21 GMT
#3382
On February 03 2015 08:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On February 03 2015 08:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 03 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I made two mistakes this game.
One mistake was putting (unconfirmed mason) in Koshi's PM. I did this out of instinct since Marv had already asked if he was confirmed, so I figured I should make it more explicit. That was a very poor decision.

Other mistake was posting a fake "scum qt" in the daypost. It was funny, but it could've impacted the game as people could've been read differently depending on their reaction on it.


I never understood this, can you elaborate? did koshi and me get different PMs? I don't understnad why he couldnt figure out that I was confirmed town by my reaction. the mason was useless as a result

You got the exact same pm other than that Koshi had (unconfirmed mason) at the bottom of it. Marv had the exact same PM as you without it, but questioned it himself.


I figured it had to be different due to how he reacted, Mine said nowhere that my partner could be mafia so i assumed we were confirmed town and that should have made him instantly townread me
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United States8983 Posts
February 02 2015 23:26 GMT
#3389
On February 03 2015 08:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On February 03 2015 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 03 2015 08:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 03 2015 08:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 03 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I made two mistakes this game.
One mistake was putting (unconfirmed mason) in Koshi's PM. I did this out of instinct since Marv had already asked if he was confirmed, so I figured I should make it more explicit. That was a very poor decision.

Other mistake was posting a fake "scum qt" in the daypost. It was funny, but it could've impacted the game as people could've been read differently depending on their reaction on it.


I never understood this, can you elaborate? did koshi and me get different PMs? I don't understnad why he couldnt figure out that I was confirmed town by my reaction. the mason was useless as a result

You got the exact same pm other than that Koshi had (unconfirmed mason) at the bottom of it. Marv had the exact same PM as you without it, but questioned it himself.


I figured it had to be different due to how he reacted, Mine said nowhere that my partner could be mafia so i assumed we were confirmed town and that should have made him instantly townread me

I don't entirely agree since Marv questioned it too, but it was undoubtably a mistake on my part.


I thought the role in general was a mistake for a normal game, ive never heard of a mason pair that could be either alignment in a normal =_= it was really, really confusing.
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