PYP: Pick Your Protoss Mini Mafia - Page 6

On January 28 2015 08:25 Onegu wrote:
Like why in the hell would I

On January 28 2015 09:05 Fecalfeast wrote:




lol

On January 28 2015 10:21 Palmar wrote:

I am confirmed.

Anyone who disagrees is basically just bad at everything.

On January 28 2015 11:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people trying to confirm themselves off of Marv's flip?

lol for srs

On January 29 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:
People did exactly what I said?

or at least mostly.

They lynched marv. I said lynch marv. Life is good.

On January 25 2015 19:21 Palmar wrote:
It's amazing that I have to be the one that tries to come up with a strategy. You all suck and mafia will 100% win this game.

I'm reading the roles and here is what I have so far.

Mothership can be picked by town. As the mothership is not a high priority target for mafia to hit, the PGO part is fairly useless. The doc part on the other hand is strong. This means that anyone who picks mothership and doesn't claim day 1 is always going to be mafia.

zealot/stalker is essentially the same role. I think it's a bad role for town, but I think the zealot may be less bad because of transparency.

Dark templar pick = mafia. We're policy lynching/shooting anyone who at any point claims the Dark Templar. Seriously, picking probe is better for town than that mf.

High templar pick = mafia. Way too much random uncontrolled KP in a setup that can literally end on day 2 or something dumb because town shoots each other.

Sentry is just a roleblocker. I don't think we should allow this role to be picked.

Archon is a great pick for both factions. I might pick it, or we might try to find someone really townie to pick it for us in the top player list. Please start being townie guys.

Observer is quite strong, although I think his delayed check is just pointless. Another role I might pick. Observer is probably going in the top 3-ish, so whoever is mothership should absolutely claim and then protect the obs.

I like the immortal. Strong role that has potential to protect other players from KP.

Colossus is probably a good vigi role. This is a role that needs to be 100% controlled by town. We have to make the colossus shoot whoever we want it to shoot. Basically because I don't think the colossus can be roleblocked, he should claim day 1 or night 1 and announce his targets and allow town to discuss them. Basically lynches are generally better for town than vigi shots, so if you allow other people input into where in the player list you shoot, the chance of success increases. I might actually just pick this role so we know where it is.

On January 25 2015 19:28 Palmar wrote:
oh phoenix is another cop. We need to get that one in good hands, and the oracle is one too, although the oracle is the most mafia favored one (only one check which is easy to "fake" and they get a shot).

Void ray is just yet another vigi it seems like. It's good for town as it doesn't allow shots until n2.

Tempest is a good bait target. ie we should pick it and claim it. He's sorta hard to kill and gives the observer and phoenix a free night of checks it seems?

Carrier = mafia role. Multi-shot vigi that can be set up to go off? The shots are set up before information is available? It's a terrible role for town just like DT. Picking it = scumclaim.

Tempest = doc that's hard to kill. This is the doc that doesn't have to day 1 claim (the core should always day 1 claim because of the PGO part that can be activated).

On January 25 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:
Okay so to make it more clear:

Good town roles:

Core (only with a day 1 claim)
Archon
Obs
Immortal
Colossus
Phoenix
Void Ray
Tempest (only with a day 1 claim)
Mothership

That's 9 roles and there are 13 players. I'm trying to figure out if we should really allow any other roles. Warp prism messes with the colossus shot, the zealot and stalker are both massive wildcards (mafia taking them can both shoot people, and mess with checks/town kp) Carrier/DT/HT are clear mafia roles.

On January 25 2015 19:46 Palmar wrote:
The day 1 strategy SHOULD be this:

Core and Tempest claim.

We then proceed to day 1 scumhunting and lynching as normal.

During the night the following should happen:

Colossus shoots 2 people with the help of town. Void ray charges his lazer. Archon, immortal, and the motherships do whatever they please.

Obs
tempest (has claimed)
oracle
phoenix

All make checks. Hell, we could even claim all these 4 roles because it will take mafia a long time to kill off all the check roles (that's assuming they're all controlled by town of course )

Actually yes, we force all the checking roles to claim this means that by day 2 we have the following info:

3 checks (assuming mafia kills one, and doesn't get owned by the mothership docs)
1 lynch
2 people killed by town
1 people killed by mafia

+ whatever shenanigans the mafia pulls.

This is clearly a MUCH better strategy than "everyone does his own thing".

On January 25 2015 21:18 Palmar wrote:
Approved protection/survivability roles
Mothership Core (claims)
Mothership
Immortal
Archon

Approved investigative roles
Observer
Phoenix
Tempest (claims)
Oracle

Approved vigilante roles
Colossus
Void Ray

Mafia roles. Pick = scumclaim
Warp Prism
Zealot
Stalker
Sentry
HT
DT
Carrier

On January 25 2015 21:18 Palmar wrote:
Approved protection/survivability roles
Mothership Core (claims)
Mothership
Immortal
Archon

Approved investigative roles
Observer
Phoenix
Tempest (claims)
Oracle

Approved vigilante roles
Colossus
Void Ray

Mafia roles. Pick = scumclaim
Warp Prism only ok if I pick it but not you ppl
Zealot
Stalker
Sentry
HT
DT
Carrier

On January 25 2015 21:18 Palmar wrote:
Approved protection/survivability roles
Mothership Core (claims)
Mothership
Immortal
Archon

Approved investigative roles
Observer
Phoenix
Tempest (claims)
Oracle

Approved vigilante roles
Colossus
Void Ray

Mafia roles. Pick = scumclaim
Warp Prism
Zealot
Stalker
Sentry
HT Onegu can have this one though
DT
Carrier Ppl I like can pick this too and be ok