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Ok so I townread sl and someone I think I mafia is arguing sl is mafia.
So i look at your arguments and I don't see any weight behind them.
Hence my read I unchanged
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On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how?
Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him.
Not an argument I would use however.
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On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how? Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him. Not an argument I would use however.
Ah okay. Kinda weak point since ritoky did decide not to believe him. This reminds me though of SL's claimed greencheck on LM that caused two flipped scum and LM himself to riot. I almost forgot about that.
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On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how?
This theory I think doesn't make SL scum as its a narrative in retrospect, and i was reading timestamps wrong becuase i'm an idiot and was taking both as an effort to get the real cop Out.
Its still a possibility because of ritokys attack after SL rescended instead of when he first claimed. But I can't substantiate this theory anymore
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On January 15 2015 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how? Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him. Not an argument I would use however. Ah okay. Kinda weak point since ritoky did decide not to believe him. This reminds me though of SL's claimed greencheck on LM that caused two flipped scum and LM himself to riot. I almost forgot about that.
Actually the bolded is untrue, ritoky didn't attack sl until after d3 started I believe. So it was well after sl took it back
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On January 15 2015 09:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how? This theory I think doesn't make SL scum as its a narrative in retrospect, and i was reading timestamps wrong becuase i'm an idiot and was taking both as an effort to get the real cop Out. Its still a possibility because of ritokys attack after SL rescended instead of when he first claimed. But I can't substantiate this theory anymore
Ah right, that thing.
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On January 15 2015 09:04 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 09:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how? Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him. Not an argument I would use however. Ah okay. Kinda weak point since ritoky did decide not to believe him. This reminds me though of SL's claimed greencheck on LM that caused two flipped scum and LM himself to riot. I almost forgot about that. Actually the bolded is untrue, ritoky didn't attack sl until after d3 started I believe. So it was well after sl took it back
That actually makes me consider LM a bit more because I felt it was unlikely 3 scum would all go after LM for the same reason.
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And suddenly I realize that a LM/SL team doesn't make sense because scum wouldn't sabotage their own fakeclaim this much. SL in general doesn't make sense for that.
Think of it. ScumSL fakeclaims cop. Town, or Town-1 if LM is town buys it. Two scum go after their own buddy whom was perfectly in the shadows at the time.
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Which leaves me squarely at a Marv/Kelsier/LM team by POE.
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Ok, so here we go:
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I don' think LM is lying when he says he has exams and can't play properly. But he's scum, which is why we witnessed so much brain farting when I questioned him.
He told his scumbuddies that he's scum, and that he won't have time to play and said "Pls, bus me cause I can't try harder than this".
Now I go into a hypothetical world where SL is town. He's just a town who says a ton of dumb shit that makes me scumread him everytime. Kels softed cop D1, and he was actually right when he said that LM scumslipped he was scum with super. But the Vivax I am, who doesn't care about filter size and has trouble distingishing bad from scum, I keep pushing him thinking he's scum while in fact he's just the next JAT.
So marv and Kelsier agreed. They would push the wagon on him, grab a shitton of cred, and carry their team to victory.
Now it's night. I found another load of reasons to push SL with. But scum can't push him. They can't push him cause they will need an ally tomorrow, after they NK Artanis and push the lynch on me. GB is somewhat doing his own thing with Damdred, and Damdred is basically my ally. Plenty of room for the next mislynch. They can push Damdred, they can push me.
That's why Kelsier shows absolutely zero suspicion on SL, and instead tries to win his favour by defending him and trying to discredit me.
That's why marv keeps silent. He doesn't need to do a thing if SL is indeed town. He just sits back and enjoys, waiting for the opportunity to strike while I keep pushing a townie. They will probably lose LM at some point, probably tomorrow, but afterwards, Chez will side with Kelsier and marv cause of the palmar lynch he didn't want, and GB will probably accept the theory that I'm scum with Damdred and be willing to lynch either of us.
Capiche? That's basically a possible scenario. I guarantee you. Marv will never die on a night this game. Marv isn't trying to solve this game. He's just setting up the stage to win the game for scum.
So, according to this theory where I assume SL is scum. The team left is: Kelsier, marv, LM
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On January 15 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which leaves me squarely at a Marv/Kelsier/LM team by POE.
Where Marv and I vote lm last night and afk?
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On January 15 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which leaves me squarely at a Marv/Kelsier/LM team by POE.
NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
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On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how? Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him. Not an argument I would use however.
Thats just not true at all. If anything im town because ritoky put scum on me and never believed my claim
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On January 15 2015 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which leaves me squarely at a Marv/Kelsier/LM team by POE. Where Marv and I vote lm last night and afk?
If you all pushed for Palmar you would've been exposed pretty badly. You got quite lucky that I tunneled the shit out of him.
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I'm going to go pick up my wife.... But i'm going to think about what art and viv said and relook at SL
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SL if you're town read my post and keep it in my mind. You will need it after this night.
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On January 15 2015 09:14 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.
you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.
Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day? Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit. Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere. Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs. This makes SL scum how? Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him. Not an argument I would use however. Thats just not true at all. If anything im town because ritoky put scum on me and never believed my claim
Actually he did believe you until d3 after you took your claim back. I even quoted Ritoky saying oh ok your the cop you are off the table for lynch.
now i'm gone
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If ritoky didnt want to kill me it was because I was an un cced cop. I barely remember and its not important enough for me to check but he was probably saying something like "well I wont kill sl untill someone else claims cop" which is really the correct thing to say for town or mafia but hes still setting me up to die later. No one should ever freakin lynch an un cced cop unless his names ritoky.
Like I was obviously supers/ritokys mislynch target and they were super mad and played horrible because they couldnt lynch me. They still put mad scum on me knowing knowing id recind
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Except ive been pushing on lm basically the entire game.
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