EPTForget the ad hominem
Read my reason why palmar is scum without thinking my alignment and consider only my argument.
Does it makes sense?
To me, it's undeniable.
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GlowingBear
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Forget the ad hominem Read my reason why palmar is scum without thinking my alignment and consider only my argument. Does it makes sense? To me, it's undeniable. | ||
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Damdred
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Vivax
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On January 14 2015 11:30 sicklucker wrote: HOW ARE WE EVER THE SAME WHEN HE TRICKS ME TO CLAIM. What do you mean with trick you to claim? Didn't you claim to make your "trap plays?" Cause right now you talk like you claimed cause you were under pressure from KSc. Is this a scumslip? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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GlowingBear
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On January 14 2015 11:30 Damdred wrote: And if he flips town what then? You can't even articulate why i'm actually scum without some weird associative reads. I've already said you're playing your scum meta and that I was uneasy on you because I saw some town traits. But this day was revealing. Damdy, you didn't push me the way you should. And you're still not pushing me. I'm extremely sure you're both scum partners. | ||
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Vivax
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On January 14 2015 11:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think Palmar is a better case than GB. I also don't think Palmar and GB can be scum together. What don't you like about my case? What do you disagree with? That Palmar actually tried this hard and sacrificed two or three hours of his sleep to get his points across. A scum just posts his wifomy shit and goes to be thinking "W/e I still got two teammates". Unless he really needed 3 hours to plant a lot of wifom, but I doubt it. Also that his reads coincided with mine for a good part. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 14 2015 11:33 GlowingBear wrote: I've already said you're playing your scum meta and that I was uneasy on you because I saw some town traits. But this day was revealing. Damdy, you didn't push me the way you should. And you're still not pushing me. I'm extremely sure you're both scum partners. GB, ever since Hearthstone i have approached you differently because I was so wrong in my meta case on you. I think theres a shot you are scum but you are a lot less than 100% to me currently. You made a case when you go back from vacation and gave thoughts, your past 72 hours though has beenr eally bad and looked closer to your scum meta | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 14 2015 11:32 Damdred wrote: Palmar was saving himself over someone he was wavering on! Thats not alignment indicative Saving himself isn't alignment indicative? Like, you think it isn't more likely for mafia to vote for surviving instead of town? Don't you think town will vote for his main scumread? His voting LM, damdy. LM. When he had a clear scumread on you. He vehemently refused to vote you AND IS VOTING WITH MARV WHARRGARBL | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 14 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote: GB, ever since Hearthstone i have approached you differently because I was so wrong in my meta case on you. I think theres a shot you are scum but you are a lot less than 100% to me currently. You made a case when you go back from vacation and gave thoughts, your past 72 hours though has beenr eally bad and looked closer to your scum meta I can understand you getting uneasy on me. That's why you should've push me more. You didn't. You're still not interested in discovering my ignment. You're ignoring me. And that's damning. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 14 2015 11:35 GlowingBear wrote: Saving himself isn't alignment indicative? Like, you think it isn't more likely for mafia to vote for surviving instead of town? Don't you think town will vote for his main scumread? His voting LM, damdy. LM. When he had a clear scumread on you. He vehemently refused to vote you AND IS VOTING WITH MARV WHARRGARBL Palmar actually started waffling on me GB. Town needs to survive, voting to survive is not a mafia trait nor a town trait. And he seems to think LM fits mafia mold to so theres that. | ||
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sicklucker
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Damdred
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On January 14 2015 11:38 GlowingBear wrote: I can understand you getting uneasy on me. That's why you should've push me more. You didn't. You're still not interested in discovering my ignment. You're ignoring me. And that's damning. Misrepresentation at its finest, every time you started asking pointless questions when the answer was in the thread i called you on it and ou said "Give me time damdy you know me let me get my answers" (paraphrase) so I gave you time. And you damn me for it? I gave you a town read for going after the hard target in JAT before he flipped, we both gave each other town reads if you forgot. I am neither ignoring you or not trying to figure you out. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On January 14 2015 11:35 Vivax wrote: That Palmar actually tried this hard and sacrificed two or three hours of his sleep to get his points across. A scum just posts his wifomy shit and goes to be thinking "W/e I still got two teammates". Unless he really needed 3 hours to plant a lot of wifom, but I doubt it. Also that his reads coincided with mine for a good part. I think that's a good point, but the flip scum side to it is that this game has clearly been at least a decent game for scum with lots of effort put into it. I don't think anyone is under 15 pages at this point. Even a scum Palmar would feel some obligation to try his damnest, and he was feeling the heat when he was going to bed. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 14 2015 11:38 Damdred wrote: Palmar actually started waffling on me GB. Town needs to survive, voting to survive is not a mafia trait nor a town trait. And he seems to think LM fits mafia mold to so theres that. Voting for surviving is mostly a mafia trait. Specially when you refuse to lynch someone you scumread. | ||
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GlowingBear
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Why is palmar voting with his main scumread? | ||
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Vivax
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Damdred
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On January 14 2015 11:40 GlowingBear wrote: Ok damdy, let's work with the hypothesis you're town. Why is palmar voting with his main scumread? ....to survive? Town should think that they are important to the game and that they need to survive to find and kill mafia. Its not just a scum trait you know | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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On January 14 2015 11:42 Damdred wrote: ....to survive? Town should think that they are important to the game and that they need to survive to find and kill mafia. Its not just a scum trait you know I don't buy that. Had Palmar stayed on Marv, he could've forced the situation in which town has to pick between him and Marv. Instead, he adds a third party to the fray. An easy target that already went to bed and won't resist as much as his main suspect. | ||
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Damdred
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On January 14 2015 11:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't buy that. Had Palmar stayed on Marv, he could've forced the situation in which town has to pick between him and Marv. Instead, he adds a third party to the fray. An easy target that already went to bed and won't resist as much as his main suspect. I don't buy this Palmar was more of a lynch risk and the way LM switched his vote to Marv looked really scummy. Plus isn't Marv asleep around deadline anyway so part of your argument is invalid i think | ||
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sicklucker
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On January 14 2015 11:33 Vivax wrote: What do you mean with trick you to claim? Didn't you claim to make your "trap plays?" Cause right now you talk like you claimed cause you were under pressure from KSc. Is this a scumslip? no? But when he joked about red checking me I sapose I was under a little presure thinking I was a miller. But he backed down saying it was a joke and I had plenty of time to back down after that. | ||
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