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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 00:15 GMT
#801
So you dont feel need to put effort into strengthening or pushing your read? Its because u have no interest in finding scum actually.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 00:16 GMT
#802
On January 01 2015 09:15 Damdred wrote:
DrH read on people depends if they agree with his case or not, if youa gree with his case you will be chainsaw defended (or if you scum read his target)

I guess thats good for you

Koshi voted with me and I still dont feel good about him. Never said anything about your alignment really. You're tilting too much too fast
RIP Aaliyah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 01 2015 00:22 GMT
#803
You haven't even answered questions that I posed to you, but you are rattling on about me answering a question eden posed to anyone who would want to kill lazer?

I know how to strengthen and push my read and it isn't ramming it down the threads throat, I can just as easily compose a case on someone with or without quotes. The filter is there to see if I took things out of context or not, it has opinions in it thats why we talk about things.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 00:27 GMT
#804
Happy New Year!!!

My resolution will be that I will give this TheChyz thing some consideration.
I had a good night of sleep.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 00:40 GMT
#805
On January 01 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
You haven't even answered questions that I posed to you, but you are rattling on about me answering a question eden posed to anyone who would want to kill lazer?

I know how to strengthen and push my read and it isn't ramming it down the threads throat, I can just as easily compose a case on someone with or without quotes. The filter is there to see if I took things out of context or not, it has opinions in it thats why we talk about things.

You wanna lynch lazer? We're talking about it now. I would like to see you back up your case with specific examples. You're shortselling your own read and making it sound unimportant by framing it as an answer to edens question. If you think lm is scum its your job to start a bandwagon.
RIP Aaliyah
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 01 2015 00:47 GMT
#806
Ok I've started reading the game a bit before New Years Eve and I must say I don't like DrH opening, geripts call on damdred and I have a slight townread on Eden.
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 01 2015 00:48 GMT
#807
On January 01 2015 09:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've started reading the game a bit before New Years Eve and I must say I don't like DrH opening, geripts call on damdred and I have a slight townread on Eden.


Which geripts call on me?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 01 2015 00:50 GMT
#808
On January 01 2015 09:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 09:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I've started reading the game a bit before New Years Eve and I must say I don't like DrH opening, geripts call on damdred and I have a slight townread on Eden.


Which geripts call on me?


The thing of you being a cop. It was ridiculous.
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 01 2015 00:52 GMT
#809
@DrH don't think i forgot about you i'm working on it while I talk to GB.

@GB, what do you think about it do you feel like he was blue fishing making a joke?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 00:55 GMT
#810
Would you mind pointing out who I've chainsaw defended too? I'm stumped there.
RIP Aaliyah
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 00:58 GMT
#811
DrH did you break down and start posting with your work phone or were you jk about leaving earlier?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 01 2015 00:59 GMT
#812
Ok DrH, here are the quotes to back up my read.

Firstly his entrance to the thread was extremely safe and while he comes in with this

On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi everyone

Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality.

##Vote: TheChyz


Its not really groundbreaking and by this point Chyz has been talked into the ground by multiple people (drH above all others), and it follows thread sentiment a bit about chyz being scummy.

On January 01 2015 00:38 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote:
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest?

I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk.

I was scum that game.


follows thread sentiment here that Robik could be scum, compares what robik is doing here to something he does in a scum game. It rubs me the wrong way and makes me think that its trying to throw dirt and see what sticks.

On January 01 2015 00:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Its not necesarily wrong with making a post saying that a discussion is stupid. The problem is when the only post you have is a post calling a discussion stupid. Why is it, after all the of the discussion and multiple people calling out rikoty, that all Chyz did was saying that the discussion was stupid? Just like Artanis said, why say "do something usefull" and proceed to do nothing yourself?

Granted, he did put up some reads later but only after he was called out.

Don't you think there is a scum motive in trying to look active while not really pushing the thread forward? Because I would argue that is what Chyz did.


The bolded portion of this post is something that I feel lazer is guilty of, in his posts previous to this and this he hasn't really pushed things forward and has just seemed to be actively trying to do things while he sheeps the thread.

On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


And mainly these three reads that he was asked for feel totally made up, he was asked specifically about them since a lot of the discussion was made about it and his reasoning for each seemed a bit off to me.

On January 01 2015 03:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
I dislike Koshi this far. Not only does his reads seem pretty off but he doesn't push geript one single bit, despite the fact that he is voting greipt. If you are town and think someone is scum but noone else is voting that person, you push that person. Koshi is not doing that.

I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow.


More sheeping thread seniment, the thread started turning against koshi and Lazer dislikes koshi.

Overall to me it just seems like scum trying to blend in.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 01 2015 01:00 GMT
#813
MIA for several hours but on the geript-cop-thing: I thought the cop thing was absolutely bizarre, but I'm probably predisposed to misreading it because it looked like a joke that I just didn't find funny. I can't imagine any reason besides joking that geript would post that regardless of alignment, and I don't think it merits further consideration
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 01 2015 01:11 GMT
#814
Can someone explain why the chyz-koshi thing makes chyz mafia?

As far as I'm aware chyz initially had a town read I koshi but then he thought about it more and analysed his play and then didn't like koshi anymore. Changing your mind is mafia now?

Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 01:23 GMT
#815
On January 01 2015 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Can someone explain why the chyz-koshi thing makes chyz mafia?

As far as I'm aware chyz initially had a town read I koshi but then he thought about it more and analysed his play and then didn't like koshi anymore. Changing your mind is mafia now?



He had an initial town read on koshi, but he said he didn't like koshi's entrance, which got him town points from artanis. So I was speculating that since he got town points for being suspicious of koshi the first time, he might try to scum read koshi to get more town points.

I guess jat pointed it out first but yeah.

chyz didn't have any new reasons for scum reading koshi. He pretty much rehashed exactly what he said before but with a different conclusion; that koshi was scum.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 01 2015 01:25 GMT
#816
##vote batsnacks
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 01 2015 01:37 GMT
#817
Bats your play feels different this game, not like town at all.

That read seems really fabricated, chyz explains why he changed his mind and you say he only did it to get town points....i don't see how he knows it gets him town points, is it his fault Eden reads him town as a result. In fact it has proved the opposite.

All the cases seem weak and you trying to push a weak case is scummy.

You said something like "I would vote on chyz if drh wasn't pushing it" so you are giving yourself a way out already. I dont know what saying that even means.

Plus, no traps

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 01 2015 01:44 GMT
#818
Alright sleep time.

Right now my scum are geript, lazer and bats.

My town is dam,drh,artanic[xp] and
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 01 2015 01:44 GMT
#819
Jat
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 01:49 GMT
#820
chyz's explanation for why he changed his mind is really similar to why he townread koshi in the first place. These are the two posts I'm getting this from I don't know if you're looking at something else:

On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote:
I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me.


On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


Those are really similar. So it to me it looked like there might be other reasons for him deciding to scum read koshi.

And I still don't like DrH's push on him but that's what the thread was talking about so I thought I'd try to contribute something. No one has was responding to anything else I was saying.
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