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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:07 GMT
#281
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy.
RIP Aaliyah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 06:11 GMT
#282
You are not making my dick hard Dr. H. What do you think of sicklucker?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:14 GMT
#283
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet.
RIP Aaliyah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 06:17 GMT
#284
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 06:20 GMT
#285
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.

i don't, why do you? i feel like i can just look at a particular situation and decide for myself if someone who was caught lying was town and trying too hard to do something cool or if they're mafia. and i'm putting all my votes on my best mafia read not on any policy.

On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I will also more or less ignore every single "town" plan involving mass claims, trying to rig/game the setup, it's way too hard to get everyone on the same page and it has never ever worked in my experience.

just peeking at the setup real quick i'm almost positive this isn't going to be an issue, not seeing anything to game

On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:How does everyone feel about lurking players? Lower than expected activity can indicate blue just as much as scum. I like when DTs focus their checks on the lurkers rather than players who are active. There isn't a great in thread way to deal with lurkers. If I analyse lurkers post history at all, I usually wait until Day 2 or 3, that's enough time for the people who are lurking for a reason to make themselves more apparent I think.

not to be rude but this all seems obvious to the point of fluff... i rather just put all my votes on best mafia read and attempt to discern b/t town lurkers and mafia lurkers as the game goes along instead of making activity a point of interest. i don't worry about them until i get a vote record unless i'm really stumped


verdict: Doc's post seems stiff and awkwardly timed, and I feel like most of the policy discussion that might ensue from this won't really get anywhere, but it beats chasing people up trees for opening game banter. I guess I like Doc as town for now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:21 GMT
#286
I havent played or read a game in more than a year, idk who that is and I don't know their meta. So no, I don't find it interesting. You do though so go ahead and follow up on it if you think it matters. That would be more interesting than asking me for reads right now.
RIP Aaliyah
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 06:22 GMT
#287
On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet.

On December 31 2014 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy.

what's up with the second post here though? seems like if you have opinions about which posts are suspicious you have opinions about which people are suspicious. non?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:24 GMT
#288
On December 31 2014 15:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.

i don't, why do you? i feel like i can just look at a particular situation and decide for myself if someone who was caught lying was town and trying too hard to do something cool or if they're mafia. and i'm putting all my votes on my best mafia read not on any policy.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I will also more or less ignore every single "town" plan involving mass claims, trying to rig/game the setup, it's way too hard to get everyone on the same page and it has never ever worked in my experience.

just peeking at the setup real quick i'm almost positive this isn't going to be an issue, not seeing anything to game

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:How does everyone feel about lurking players? Lower than expected activity can indicate blue just as much as scum. I like when DTs focus their checks on the lurkers rather than players who are active. There isn't a great in thread way to deal with lurkers. If I analyse lurkers post history at all, I usually wait until Day 2 or 3, that's enough time for the people who are lurking for a reason to make themselves more apparent I think.

not to be rude but this all seems obvious to the point of fluff... i rather just put all my votes on best mafia read and attempt to discern b/t town lurkers and mafia lurkers as the game goes along instead of making activity a point of interest. i don't worry about them until i get a vote record unless i'm really stumped


verdict: Doc's post seems stiff and awkwardly timed, and I feel like most of the policy discussion that might ensue from this won't really get anywhere, but it beats chasing people up trees for opening game banter. I guess I like Doc as town for now


I think a town meta that sticks to LAL makes it much harder for mafia to maneuver in general. If people start letting town lies slide I feel way less pressured as scum and immediately start thinking of how I could abuse fake claims. A town that clinches down on that sort of thing would make me nervous. I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 31 2014 06:24 GMT
#289
I think it was a joke about jokes? God I hate day 1's
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:24 GMT
#290
On December 31 2014 15:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy.

what's up with the second post here though? seems like if you have opinions about which posts are suspicious you have opinions about which people are suspicious. non?

Seems like you take everything literally, we're gonna have problems if you waste your time with shit like this.
RIP Aaliyah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 06:27 GMT
#291
On December 31 2014 15:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.

i don't, why do you? i feel like i can just look at a particular situation and decide for myself if someone who was caught lying was town and trying too hard to do something cool or if they're mafia. and i'm putting all my votes on my best mafia read not on any policy.

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I will also more or less ignore every single "town" plan involving mass claims, trying to rig/game the setup, it's way too hard to get everyone on the same page and it has never ever worked in my experience.

just peeking at the setup real quick i'm almost positive this isn't going to be an issue, not seeing anything to game

Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:How does everyone feel about lurking players? Lower than expected activity can indicate blue just as much as scum. I like when DTs focus their checks on the lurkers rather than players who are active. There isn't a great in thread way to deal with lurkers. If I analyse lurkers post history at all, I usually wait until Day 2 or 3, that's enough time for the people who are lurking for a reason to make themselves more apparent I think.

not to be rude but this all seems obvious to the point of fluff... i rather just put all my votes on best mafia read and attempt to discern b/t town lurkers and mafia lurkers as the game goes along instead of making activity a point of interest. i don't worry about them until i get a vote record unless i'm really stumped


verdict: Doc's post seems stiff and awkwardly timed, and I feel like most of the policy discussion that might ensue from this won't really get anywhere, but it beats chasing people up trees for opening game banter. I guess I like Doc as town for now

I'm going to go ahead and shut down this line right now. Maybe you get a point for being zealous, but not really. I've played and read a number of games w/ DrH. He doesn't care how discussion gets started up, he just wants the ball to get rolling. He hasn't played in a while. I don't think his post makes him town or scum. It's a bland boring useless post for the most part, but it's one that used to be a more standard way of opening games.

I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 31 2014 06:28 GMT
#292
On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote:
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest?


I just saw him get wrecked in a final 3 on twitch tv. I prob wouldn't either
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 06:29 GMT
#293
eh i don't really see it, doc. as mafia i'm not going to try to lie any more or less if townies start lying, i'm probably going to exploit townies lying by trying to push policy lynches on them. policy lynches on townies are free mislynches for mafia

and i mean yeah, "intense scrutiny and questioning" sure, but are you afraid people are actually NOT going to do this? this almost seems like an empty statement
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 31 2014 06:32 GMT
#294
On December 31 2014 15:27 geript wrote:
I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it.

@Eden Explain.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
December 31 2014 06:35 GMT
#295
On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet.

On December 31 2014 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy.

what's up with the second post here though? seems like if you have opinions about which posts are suspicious you have opinions about which people are suspicious. non?

Seems like you take everything literally, we're gonna have problems if you waste your time with shit like this.

just checking, it seemed like a joke but i didn't want to supply that answer in case it weren't~

On December 31 2014 15:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:27 geript wrote:
I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it.

@Eden Explain.

sure, i'm not sure what you meant by "shut down this line" in the previous part of the post btw so if you want a reply to that please clarify for my addled brain

as for why i read it townie, like i said, it seemed like an effort to get discussion somewhere besides early-game banter, which imo wasn't going anywhere. i followed up on the post because even if the object-level discussion ends up being pretty pointless, i can get some possibly useful meta-level reads from it - and hey, maybe it is going somewhere and i miss it, y'know?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 06:36 GMT
#296
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1.

I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.


What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:37 GMT
#297
On December 31 2014 15:29 Eden1892 wrote:
eh i don't really see it, doc. as mafia i'm not going to try to lie any more or less if townies start lying, i'm probably going to exploit townies lying by trying to push policy lynches on them. policy lynches on townies are free mislynches for mafia

and i mean yeah, "intense scrutiny and questioning" sure, but are you afraid people are actually NOT going to do this? this almost seems like an empty statement

Yeah, I do fear that sadly enough. Ov course , in the timeframe of a single game it doesn't mean anything. I'm just talking general meta and from when I did most of my playing (a while ago) it was v eady to get away with fakeclaims as scum (ive been scum many times and done it myself many times) or set up weird vuses (buses) in themed games and sfuff (stuff).

When towns in general are lax about that stuff (as i have once known them to be) i don't worry so much if i roll scum. Townies who lie just throw a wrench into everything by creatinf (creatinf /€ fuck) we

Creating mislynch opportunities. Sorry for the typos amd weird formatting. Did it again. Can't backspace on my mobile for some reason, really abboying annoying seeing as I have enormous thumbs.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:41 GMT
#298
On December 31 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1.

I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.


What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum?

What does that mean
RIP Aaliyah
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 31 2014 06:42 GMT
#299
On December 31 2014 15:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote:
On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1.

I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars.


What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum?

What does that mean


On December 31 2014 14:01 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry geript was to busy in scum qt to beat you to first this time.

I've been having mafia withdrawls


Should we lynch damdred for claiming scum?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 31 2014 06:44 GMT
#300
Yes. Slam dunk case. No point in him even defending himself really.
RIP Aaliyah
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