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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 23:36 GMT
#2678
On December 14 2014 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


OWS did not waste his vote. Check the vote count Sicklucker, he actually hammered KSC.


obi is super town or super bussed his team mate.

but since i think HF is scum and the fact that obi didnt want to vote HF earlier before thread sentiment was on kel i'm inlcined to think obi super bussed kel.

But lets see how HF flips.

Rit shoot HF

Vig can find someone else hopefully. Oh wait mafia might have RB so...vig shoot HF and rit find someone else to shoot.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 23:39 GMT
#2681
On December 14 2014 08:28 sicklucker wrote:
I SAID IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO DIE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION SAY THAT INFORMATION RIGHT BEFORE TOMORROW STARTS. HINT HINT i DONT WANT ARE SANTAS ROLECHECKS TO BE WASTED IF ITS SOMEONE LIKE XATA WHO DIES.


why is xat going to die?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 23:47 GMT
#2690
On December 14 2014 08:31 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:29 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:16 liancourt wrote:
hey rit shoot hf


Dude, no. KSC knew he was being lynched. Why would he go, no, no, don't kill HF, kill FF? if HF was mafia with him? He didn't even try to derail the lynch.


anyone could have switched and caused shennanigans

but no one did...why?

i'm inlcined to think hf is mafia too. And it's really scummy that he comes right after the flip.

What was he doing not defending himself or trying to convince others to vote kel or ff to save himself.

Instead he lurked until the flip and suddenly comes in.

HF's game thus far has been really underwhelming and a HF that makes IRL excuses and being underwhelming non pushing and just overall having a bad game is really hurting town and i'm really inclined to think that it's scum HF playing like this.

He poses a big threat to town if he's scum, and right now he's been practically useless.


the guy who started the wagon jumped off 4 mins before the end to try to cause shennanies.....even after he made a really good case....i am so confused by that


no i started the wagon

actually slam voted kel first then i followed

then 3 hrs before deadline i called out why no one was voting kel

i started shoutng vote kel. tube and slam followed.

but at the time thread sentiment was on ff lynch

then the truffles case was posted. good case.

then votes flooded in for some reason.

ff voters split into kel and hf....someone analyze this, but if HF is also mafia it's really pointless lol

if hf isn't mafia then we really have to consider ff being scum

then it was a 2 wagon race between hf and kel. truffels jumped wagon but he was the one that made the case that apparently convinced ppl to vote kel. then obi hit the nail on the head. good job

truffles is pretty much townie as is obi for the time being unless they bussed really hardcore.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 23:52 GMT
#2695
On December 14 2014 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:29 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:16 liancourt wrote:
hey rit shoot hf


Dude, no. KSC knew he was being lynched. Why would he go, no, no, don't kill HF, kill FF? if HF was mafia with him? He didn't even try to derail the lynch.


anyone could have switched and caused shennanigans

but no one did...why?

i'm inlcined to think hf is mafia too. And it's really scummy that he comes right after the flip.

What was he doing not defending himself or trying to convince others to vote kel or ff to save himself.

Instead he lurked until the flip and suddenly comes in.

HF's game thus far has been really underwhelming and a HF that makes IRL excuses and being underwhelming non pushing and just overall having a bad game is really hurting town and i'm really inclined to think that it's scum HF playing like this.

He poses a big threat to town if he's scum, and right now he's been practically useless.


I've been sick and now I'm on holiday in belgium. There is no way I'd ever go down without a fight as town or mafia. Especially if the wagon was on mafia kelsier or mafia me. It's super simple that I just wasn't around.


sorry hf but you're really detrimental to town right now

town benefits from ur godlike analysis and pushing power and thread presence

but you have none of that this game and sure you have IRL stuff going on.

Even you have said in the past that mafia like to make IRL excuses for their inactiveness or untownlilike play.

I'm sorry HF but I think it's a heavy burden for town to keep you alive.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 23:55 GMT
#2699
On December 14 2014 08:41 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:39 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:28 sicklucker wrote:
I SAID IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO DIE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION SAY THAT INFORMATION RIGHT BEFORE TOMORROW STARTS. HINT HINT i DONT WANT ARE SANTAS ROLECHECKS TO BE WASTED IF ITS SOMEONE LIKE XATA WHO DIES.


why is xat going to die?


Hes top town with no known role hes who I would kill.


why is he top town?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 13 2014 23:57 GMT
#2701
On December 14 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:36 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


OWS did not waste his vote. Check the vote count Sicklucker, he actually hammered KSC.


obi is super town or super bussed his team mate.

but since i think HF is scum and the fact that obi didnt want to vote HF earlier before thread sentiment was on kel i'm inlcined to think obi super bussed kel.

But lets see how HF flips.

Rit shoot HF

Vig can find someone else hopefully. Oh wait mafia might have RB so...vig shoot HF and rit find someone else to shoot.


Are you just oblivious to everything I'm writing?


stop defending yourself and shoiw me your past greatness
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 00:00 GMT
#2706
On December 14 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
Liancourt has some kind of blinders on like most of the thread where they don't read anything relevant to their scum reads


what are you talking about HF?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 00:04 GMT
#2711
On December 14 2014 08:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:52 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:29 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:16 liancourt wrote:
hey rit shoot hf


Dude, no. KSC knew he was being lynched. Why would he go, no, no, don't kill HF, kill FF? if HF was mafia with him? He didn't even try to derail the lynch.


anyone could have switched and caused shennanigans

but no one did...why?

i'm inlcined to think hf is mafia too. And it's really scummy that he comes right after the flip.

What was he doing not defending himself or trying to convince others to vote kel or ff to save himself.

Instead he lurked until the flip and suddenly comes in.

HF's game thus far has been really underwhelming and a HF that makes IRL excuses and being underwhelming non pushing and just overall having a bad game is really hurting town and i'm really inclined to think that it's scum HF playing like this.

He poses a big threat to town if he's scum, and right now he's been practically useless.


I've been sick and now I'm on holiday in belgium. There is no way I'd ever go down without a fight as town or mafia. Especially if the wagon was on mafia kelsier or mafia me. It's super simple that I just wasn't around.


sorry hf but you're really detrimental to town right now

town benefits from ur godlike analysis and pushing power and thread presence

but you have none of that this game and sure you have IRL stuff going on.

Even you have said in the past that mafia like to make IRL excuses for their inactiveness or untownlilike play.

I'm sorry HF but I think it's a heavy burden for town to keep you alive.


I've claimed red. It's literally why I linked the same fucking case geript made on me in russian mafia where I was a role. I'm not a detriment I'm someone you can't be bothered to read at all so you'll just be lazy and actually IGNORE my entire filter and ask to shoot me instead. Much like the majority of the game has done.


no, i'm reading you now and you're being absolutely useless this game.

and the way you came back to the thread was horrible.

what does it matter what I think?

If you want to redeem yourself why not show us you're town by scum hunting instead of replying to my useless posts
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 00:08 GMT
#2717
On December 14 2014 08:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:57 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:36 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


OWS did not waste his vote. Check the vote count Sicklucker, he actually hammered KSC.


obi is super town or super bussed his team mate.

but since i think HF is scum and the fact that obi didnt want to vote HF earlier before thread sentiment was on kel i'm inlcined to think obi super bussed kel.

But lets see how HF flips.

Rit shoot HF

Vig can find someone else hopefully. Oh wait mafia might have RB so...vig shoot HF and rit find someone else to shoot.


Are you just oblivious to everything I'm writing?


stop defending yourself and shoiw me your past greatness


No I'm just going to enjoy my holiday because I've been perfectly fine this game and you haven't read anything I've written at all.


thing is HF i didn't need to read anything what you wrote in past games to feel your thread presence and pushing power.

This game nope.

You can make excuses and not scum hunt it's ok.

It'll just make me think you as more scummy
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 00:19 GMT
#2722
I hope you die at night HF.

Why claim a power role at the beginning of night?

Now if you don't die you'll be up for discussion again tomorrow.

i can understand claiming at the end of night or claiming to be one of the ghosts or a mason, but just saying you're a power role doesn't really do anyhting for me sorry.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 01:44 GMT
#2743
On December 14 2014 10:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 10:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The most likely scenario we're dealing with is that there's scum on the Holyflare wagon. We hunt there first, and if Hf gets shot by either mafia or a vigilante and flips town, then we're in an awesome spot information-wise because we know exactly where some scum have hid, and it's likely there's more than one on his wagon.

I just realized there's actually a scenario where Oats could be scum with Holyflare, but that would depend on the mafia team so absolved of thread influence that two mafia were the leading wagons and the whole team is made up of useless players with no thread pull. Just an fyi, Holyflare is anything but useless.

It would be amazing if that were the case, but I don't think it is: out of the people who fit the bill based on their votes, LS is a claimed role as well, so it's unlikely.

All of this is mostly speculation at this point. I need to do more legwork to get my analysis out before I most likely get shot.


1st paragraph won't happen :/ although I want HF lynched, I don't think he is a good vigi shot.
2nd paragraph: yeah, he isn't useless, but he is scummy. I'll debunk his defense soon. Although I'll say in advance that I may have misread something in his filter, since I couldn't find where he explicitly said froggy is scummy. All I've got was him calling his entrance out and saying froggy looks terrible (which, for me, is a way to say someone looks scummy), but I couldn't find where he explicitly said he was scum. Bummer.

I believe it's possible that both wagons were mafia. Holyflare's vote was on FF. I simply don't like FFs wagon. Gonna check it again


although I want HF lynched, I don't think he is a good vigi shot.


what?

HF needs to flip tonight or discussion won't progress tomorrow
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 22:59 GMT
#2997
if i die and hf doesn't flip lynch hf day 3.

seeing how hf flips will give more insight on how ppl voted end of day 2.




liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 23:28 GMT
#3016
4 things to discuss today

1. HF needs to die
2. What happened to rit's shot?
3. What happened to vig's shot?
4. Everyone just claim roles cos vig and seer died anyway.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 23:38 GMT
#3028
just vote HF

discussion isn't going to progress as long as he is alive and we cant' analyze day 2 votes with him alive.

liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 14 2014 23:56 GMT
#3048
rit needs bleed town if he doesn't want to get lynched day 4
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 01:36 GMT
#3092
On December 15 2014 10:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
I can't read.

That makes the branch manager pretty terrible. So I'm going back to my original theory that we have a snowman and a JK.


And that is why scum team opted to lynch kel instead of hf
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 04:31 GMT
#3158
In the next 2 days hf and rit are going to get lynched no questions asked.

All other reads are irrelevant until these 2 flip.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 06:58 GMT
#3215
for crying out loud HF needs to flip so we can analyze what the hell was going on day 2.

If he's town mafia were on his train.

If he's scum then we have to factor in tube and ff and why ppl moved off of tube to vote ff and then moved to kel.

Xatalos, Half the Sky: tube to ff to kel
sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast: tube to hf
vivax: ff to hf
slam, tube: kel to hf to ff to kel

lian: kel
frog, LS: tube
GB, bats: HF
HF, kel: ff
oats: vivax

this is how ppl roughly moved their votes 3 hrs before deadline yesterday.

HF flipping will give us tons of info.


liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:15 GMT
#3228
day 1 A decides to send present to B
night 1 B receives present and decide to open it
day 2 B dies

day 1 A decides to send present to B
night 1 B receives present and decide to open it
day 2 B gets an action
night 2 B acts out action
day 3 B says action was RBed

day 1 A decides to send present to B
night 1 B receives present and decide not to open
day 2 B decides to send it to C
night 2 C receives present and decides to???
day 3 C ???
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 15 2014 07:16 GMT
#3229
understand now?
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