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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 16:15 GMT
#353
On November 21 2014 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions

I dont feel like monologuing. Rayn's read on templar looks bad but doesnt make rayn scum. VE looks bad in general. damdred is afk. Liancourt is almost trying to get lynched. You look town so far. rito is slightly townie. templar townie, slam townie.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 16:21 GMT
#356
On November 21 2014 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions

I dont feel like monologuing. Rayn's read on templar looks bad but doesnt make rayn scum. VE looks bad in general. damdred is afk. Liancourt is almost trying to get lynched. You look town so far. rito is slightly townie. templar townie, slam townie.

had to post this...
lol you don't even know why i think he is mafia.

which in and of itself bothers me. I have 1 post to go on for "why rayn thinks templar is mafia". I think that post was townie, so I disagree with you and think you look bad. It can wait, have your conversation with holyflare.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 16:36 GMT
#360
On November 21 2014 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 01:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions

I dont feel like monologuing. Rayn's read on templar looks bad but doesnt make rayn scum. VE looks bad in general. damdred is afk. Liancourt is almost trying to get lynched. You look town so far. rito is slightly townie. templar townie, slam townie.

had to post this...
lol you don't even know why i think he is mafia.

which in and of itself bothers me. I have 1 post to go on for "why rayn thinks templar is mafia". I think that post was townie, so I disagree with you and think you look bad. It can wait, have your conversation with holyflare.


Hopeless can you show me why you think templars post looks townie ?

No, because now I'll be defending him before rayn even makes a case.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 16:48 GMT
#367
On November 21 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions

I dont feel like monologuing. Rayn's read on templar looks bad but doesnt make rayn scum. VE looks bad in general. damdred is afk. Liancourt is almost trying to get lynched. You look town so far. rito is slightly townie. templar townie, slam townie.

had to post this...
lol you don't even know why i think he is mafia.

which in and of itself bothers me. I have 1 post to go on for "why rayn thinks templar is mafia". I think that post was townie, so I disagree with you and think you look bad. It can wait, have your conversation with holyflare.

So you are claiming scum?
Why is my case bad? You called it bad now tell me why is it bad.


.... I have no idea how you can even reach conclusions sometimes I think you just add the words "you are claiming scum" and "you are town" to your posts sometimes just to mess with people

where is your case??

I am waiting for Hopeless to answer first because apparently he knows what my case is.

I never claimed to know what your case is. I said your read on Templar looks bad, because I read Templar town for the same post. Neither of us have given an explanation. You said you would first.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:17 GMT
#375
On November 21 2014 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
On November 21 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 21 2014 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy?
i must be mafia in every game then....


are you dense or some shit? read the thread

No u.

I know exactly what ve has said and there is nothing scummy in it. So either you are twisting the facts which makes you mafia, or maybe you should read the thread... Or maybe you just went insane. Idk yet.

But we should still kill templar. I'll explain when i get off work and then you can all sheep me and i can be confirmed town.



On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.

ritoky i am the king of vague statements.

If I am saying that VE's logic doesn't actually make someone mafia etc etc and he's saying it does and I'm mafia for not seeing that and here you are defending ve's logic saying there's nothing scummy with it (thereby nothing wrong with it at all) how come you aren't scum reading hopeless at all!?

either you:

1) Agree with ve and then you would be scum reading hopeless (you already said you don't think what ve did was scummy)

or

2) you disagree with ve saying that hopeless is scummy and therefore agree with ME



if the answer is number 2 then your post means nothing and is actually discrediting me for no reason because you aren't reading the thread, if your answer is number 1 then there's something wrong with your mindset because you don't scum read hopeless in your read post and you are probably mafia

That is not the point Holyflare.

My point is you called out VE's logic before you gave Hopeless a chance to defend himself (or overreact/scumtell whatever if he is mafia) against VE. At the time you at least must assume there is a chance that VE is town and Hopeless is mafia. Unless you had a really strong townread on Hopeless (which you didn't) you do not shut down cases on him, regardless of how good/bad the case is. It is just retarded (just like answering to questions asked from other people -- you know what i am talking about) and i don't really get why did you do that in the first place because i KNOW you think what i just said is a fact.

That's why i called you weird.

Now you seem to be having a scumread on Hopeless. Cool. Now why the hell are you fixated in VE??? You called his actions scummy but you do not think it makes him mafia. Fuck, let it go then if it does not make him mafia. What's the point???? You know VE, he "doesn't negotiate with terrorists" and i can't understand what are you possibly trying to achieve treating like you do -- from town perspective. It just doesn't make sense because he'll shut down towards you and you will at each other and if you are both town then fuck this game because it's gonna be ruined.

That's my 2c on you, and if possible i'd like you to explain your actions i was talking about. Give me the town motivation because i do not see it.

Also yes, i think Hopeless is quite possibly scum for his latest posts. When he got back to the thread i got the same impression you posted. I don't/didn't think VE had a good case. In fact i kinda liked how Hopeless answered the case. Oh yeah that's the third thing. Why was Hopeless' response to the case bad (that's why you think he is scum, right)?



This is most assuredly NOT what happened and means you have read nothing of the interaction. VE's scum read on me is that i said his logic was bad WHILE saying hopeless' reaction was scummy. I can call out more than one person even if they are calling out each other because a) bussing is a major thing that's happening each game and b) my read on hopeless was weak and ve's push looked scummy

I am not sure you understand what i was talking about in the part you colored red.
I was talking about the fact that VE made a case on Hopeless. You called the case bad before Hopeless answered it.
right?

HF's read on me is based entirely on my answering VE's case. wtf rayn. Also, your timeline picture is wrong on templar. He literally links the post "this post is based on". Its the one directly before his own.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:20 GMT
#378
On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason.

The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:23 GMT
#382
On November 21 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:
HOpeless rayn has posed his case will ou please answer me now?

Templar isnt deadset on scumreading VE, he's just pointing out a bunch of things that show VE to be inconsistent. He's not really pushing an agenda, and I agree with basically everything he posted. Scum dont make that kind of post, they either call VE scum or pressure or do something. Templar just drops it at the end like he couldnt care less.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:24 GMT
#383
On November 21 2014 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also the fact that Templar's vote is on liancourt (who is almost definitely town) and him asking Holyflare if he reads him scum or not doesn't really help him.

So Hopeless, when you read Templar's post do you get the feeling he actually thinks VE is mafia?

He has suspicions of VE, I don't think he has a strong scumread.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:29 GMT
#389
On November 21 2014 02:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:
HOpeless rayn has posed his case will ou please answer me now?

Templar isnt deadset on scumreading VE, he's just pointing out a bunch of things that show VE to be inconsistent. He's not really pushing an agenda, and I agree with basically everything he posted. Scum dont make that kind of post, they either call VE scum or pressure or do something. Templar just drops it at the end like he couldnt care less.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:35 GMT
#393
On November 21 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 02:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote:
HOpeless rayn has posed his case will ou please answer me now?

Templar isnt deadset on scumreading VE, he's just pointing out a bunch of things that show VE to be inconsistent. He's not really pushing an agenda, and I agree with basically everything he posted. Scum dont make that kind of post, they either call VE scum or pressure or do something. Templar just drops it at the end like he couldnt care less.


Incorrect.
The bolded is a thing most scum do. They don't wanna call anyone scum. They wanna "contribute" without pissing off anyone.

Not calling anyone scum is a thing most scum WANT to do, very few of them have the balls to DO it while appearing like they are contributing.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:38 GMT
#396
On November 21 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi
I'm drunk
I haven't read the thread
Talk to me.

first question..what time is it where you are?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:47 GMT
#411
On November 21 2014 02:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Hopeless, I'm waiting for your follow up. You question was aimless enough to make me have a scum lean on you.

You're just like VE. I think rayn is town but I disagree with him about VE and Templar. Can you be of assistance?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#412
rayn whats your read on chez based on?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 17:51 GMT
#413
Damdred, I answered you. What are your thoughts?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 18:08 GMT
#428
On November 21 2014 02:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 02:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 21 2014 02:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Hopeless, I'm waiting for your follow up. You question was aimless enough to make me have a scum lean on you.

You're just like VE. I think rayn is town but I disagree with him about VE and Templar. Can you be of assistance?


No, because, as I said, I haven't read the thread yet and I have no idea.
What answer did you expect when you made that question to me?

I expect you to read the thread and if you are so inclined, answer my question after you've done so.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 18:11 GMT
#430
Its like rayn and HF swapped places from FFL2
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 18:18 GMT
#436
absolutely riveting VE. anything new with your reads?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#442
where is my filter linked? i dont see that
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 18:31 GMT
#445
really dislike sicklucker

"VE totally believes what he's saying"

"I have no idea what VE said or why he said it"
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 20 2014 18:32 GMT
#446
On November 21 2014 03:31 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2014 03:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
where is my filter linked? i dont see that


If you go to the first page with the player list. Click on anyone's name to see theirs.

VE said that Chez linked my filter somewhere, I dont see that in Chez's filter.
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