On November 07 2014 12:14 Elvis! wrote:
(There's a hefty discussion going on in the scum QT I assume, since there's easy questions and noone answers)

what questions?

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:36 GMT

#1182

On November 07 2014 12:05 Elvis! wrote:
"Anyway elvis heres where im at with you. Im trying so hard to see you as town but you seem to be aligning yourself with more scummy people then townie."

So I'm scummy for aligning with people but I can't apply that to others?

As example.
This one is more for sicklucker.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

November 07 2014 03:38 GMT

#1183

Elvis are you reading me as scum for anything other than associative reads with sicklucker?

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:40 GMT

#1184

On November 07 2014 10:47 Elvis! wrote:
Freitag, 7. November 2014
01:10

Sicklucker:
Thinks very highly of himself since he posts multiple times that he is the one that should be NK.

Posts he wouldn't lynch Kelsier even if he knew 100% he was scum.
Defends Kelsiers CC and late pullback.
He gives really wishy-washy reasons to why he thinks Kelsier is town.
Kelsier and Sicklucker mafia together?

He pushes on Sentinel for (his own reasoning) posting a lot earlier and not anymore.
That's not a mafia indicator, that's just him not posting, like kush and immaterial and a lot others.
He also defends kush later for not posting, which makes no sense since for him it's a scumtell.

He says him and Sentinel are not aligned because Sentinel could just have relied on him getting modkilled.
That's nothing you can rely on.

He supports his vote on Sentinel because Sentinel and him are on his weak theory " like 0% aligned".

He even mentions that Sentinel might be going under the radar because he's a role.
So he wants to lynch a possible role?

He wants to rather vote on inactives than people he thinks are mafia, because he thinks there's a "higher rng" to kill them then to kill people he thinks are mafia.
Why not make a proper case on somebody and convince people of his vote?
If he just goes after the inactive we can only lose since there's a lot of them. We don't have many jokers left since we lost 2 town already.
So it's very important to get scum and not just get to lynch basically anyone.
He wants to lynch the people where he can get a push through, not mafia.

"make more than one point"

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:41 GMT

#1185

And that's not even everything sicklucker.
Why don't you start the tons of questions hidden in this beginning?

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 03:43 GMT

#1186

Your post is really hard to read and this is coming from a really bad poster but I think I read it all. I would like to point out im the least experienced player here and alot of what your seeing could just be bad town play. How can you tell the difference from bad town and mafia play? well Im always asking qeustion and forming ideas . They may changed a little too much and I might make too big of leaps sometimes but you can still see the town vibes. Where as you as a bad/new town(or a rly good mafia player) are doing a connect the dot type conspiracy. a couple legit from my bad town play not enough to hand me with 90% nonsense and stuff that other people did that I have no control over.

Almost all of it is just me and breska asking qeustions to each other THATS WHAT YOU DO AS TOWN NOT MAKE 1000 WORD ESSAYS

I agree breskas insane amount of questioning directed to me is weird and hes trying to push an agenda on kush. He could be trying to pocket me but he is probably just trying to read me.

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:45 GMT

#1187

@Breshke no I'm not. Read my post. Maybe start by CRTL+F-ing your name.
Some things are because you align to them, some things are weird, some things mildly scummy and some of the alignment just fits too well.
Also I post multiple times that you might just be confused/misguided/deceived town and that you just fit too well in with defending people I would not have thought you would defend.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 03:48 GMT

#1188

Theres just no one comment I can pick in your post because its all really bad which is why I asked for direct qeustions. I agree with everything ive said in this game at the time even though I probably shouldnt have said it all immediately. The fact its all about me being connected with these players that I already stated very valid reasons why im not is enough I think.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 03:51 GMT

#1189

Anyway I refuse to talk about this anymore with you if another player wants to sure. This is either the two newest towns wasting time or a mafia wasting alot of time.

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:53 GMT

#1190

Uhm. posting big essays is what town does.
First, you collect information, then you sum it up and post it to make it a case.
This is one of the reasons I don't see you town, you don't make a big commited case on anyone.
Besides that, I post about a lot of people in one post.

Only asking questions doesn't lead to lynching scum .

You can't make a proper case without a reasonably big post (of course it doesn't have to be as big as this one), because you need to tell exaclty why you think people are scummy and if possible support that with other postss/people and quotes.

Have you read the XXX team liquid mafia game analysis that's really famous? It takes hours to read that, because he goes into detail.
Going into detail is never a bad thing in my idea, because if you go into detail you're sure, you can proof things and you're not scared of people pointing bad things out.
I don't make cases of people because of low amounts of reasons like as example a lot of people have done since Night one.

Also don't pull the newbie card, this is a mostly newbie game and I have played only one more game than you. So have a lot of people here.

Of course not all bad play is mafia play, but that's why there is lots of other things to show like connection between players and so on.

What do you think the perfect pre-vote post looks like? What is in it, what is not?

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:54 GMT

#1191

I gave you a small excerpt.

If you are town it should be absolutely no problem to
A talk about this and
B at least answer the questions (you can look for questions marks) .

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 03:55 GMT

#1192

If you don't wanna talk about this and answer my questions I think we have 100% found scum here.
Town doesn't need to not answer questions, there is no valid reason not to if you're town, since there's nothing to hide.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 03:59 GMT

#1193

I feel like I defended myself, vote for me if you want im sure the mafia will follow making this game winnable.
I want to talk about other things. Elvis can we live in a world for the next twenty minutes where we are both town? I know I can but im not sure you can

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 04:00 GMT

#1194

On November 07 2014 12:55 Elvis! wrote:
If you don't wanna talk about this and answer my questions I think we have 100% found scum here.
Town doesn't need to not answer questions, there is no valid reason not to if you're town, since there's nothing to hide.

This is a valid reason If I think its not productive to town winning the game even if it gets me lynched.

Elvis!

Germany396 Posts

November 07 2014 04:01 GMT

#1195

Well I just wanted to go to bed since it's 5 am but gogo let's be town.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

November 07 2014 04:02 GMT

#1196

On November 07 2014 13:00 sicklucker wrote:

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This is a valid reason If I think its not productive to town winning the game even if it gets me lynched.

Assuming you are town, how does getting lynched help town more than spending some time answering questions?

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 04:03 GMT

#1197

outside of your two tunneled players who you think are scum who are your scum and towns

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 04:10 GMT

#1198

On November 07 2014 13:02 Fecalfeast wrote:

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Assuming you are town, how does getting lynched help town more than spending some time answering questions?

Dont get me wrong I dont want to be lynched I just feel this guy is unconvincable

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

November 07 2014 04:11 GMT

#1199

Well actually its pretty late just go to bed just do me a huge favor when you wake up. You made your case you voted for me thats fine theres not much more you can do but hope others believe you. Just use the remaining time to look at other aspects of the game because your really really really bad at not tunneling like epicly bad.

The reason why I was so hard on you was because you were tunneling on one player that 0 other people wanted to vote on instead of being productive and now your doing that to me.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

November 07 2014 04:12 GMT

#1200

I just want to point out that kush came back to the thread and admitted he isn't even reading? Why arn't more people other than me and bats voting him?