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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#621
I am Serejai, the vanilla townie. My only town read is Bresh and I apparently don't know how to convey my scum reads with writing, so the chances of me posting anything that results in a mafia lynch are slim to none. I stand by my scum list but it seems to be a waste of time trying to explain my reasoning to everyone else.

As such, I'm just going to sheep Bresh for the time being. If we're no longer going to lynch LS then you should probably all throw your votes on me. The sooner I flip town, the sooner the rest of my town brethren can go after the real scum.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#622
I guess this the only way to save my skin while I'm alive.
##unvote
##vote sentinal
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 21:38:54
November 04 2014 21:06 GMT
#623
Vote Count

Serejai (1): Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (3): Superbia, LightningStrike, kushm4sta
LightningStrike (7): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel,FecalFeast

Not Voting (2): Cricketer12, Grackaroni

Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:06 GMT
#624
I also stated at the start of the game that I felt one of two things was true; either Elvis + Fecal were scum, or Sentinel was scum. If Sentinel ends up getting lynched and flips scum then I'd be pretty confident in removing Elvis and Fecal from my scum list.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
November 04 2014 21:07 GMT
#625
I'm in class on my phone. Is there a vote count?
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 04 2014 21:07 GMT
#626
On November 05 2014 06:02 Breshke wrote:
So kush are you happy with the reads serajai posted is that why you arn't suggesting her as a lynch?

i really have no reason to suggest her as a lynch. my vote was very outdated. i skimmed her filter and it looked fine.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:08 GMT
#627
On November 05 2014 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Serejai (2): kushm4sta, Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (2): Superbia, LightningStrike
LightningStrike (7): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, FecalFeast, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel

Not Voting (2): Cricketer12, Grackaroni

Currently, LightninStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.

Fixed to reflect the current votes
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
November 04 2014 21:09 GMT
#628
Oh it's on LS. That's not a very good lynch. LS actually tried to share his thoughts despite not knowing what he was doing.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:10 GMT
#629
On November 05 2014 06:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh it's on LS. That's not a very good lynch. LS actually tried to share his thoughts despite not knowing what he was doing.

Love you Grack stay golden my friend
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 21:12 GMT
#630
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

Show nested quote +
I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Show nested quote +
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
Show nested quote +
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#631
On November 05 2014 06:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Oh it's on LS. That's not a very good lynch. LS actually tried to share his thoughts despite not knowing what he was doing.

LS confused the thread with something that reeks of utter bullshit to me.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#632
##unvote
##vote sentinel

Kush's vote in on sent, not on serejai
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#633
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.

Show nested quote +

After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.

Show nested quote +

It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Show nested quote +
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.

Show nested quote +

Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 21:14 GMT
#634
ninja'd by sent, eh? I will read.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:15 GMT
#635
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure he can show what he told me in the pms.

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 21:15 GMT
#636
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.


When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 04 2014 21:16 GMT
#637
On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.


When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?

After but I kind fo figured beforehand.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9849 Posts
November 04 2014 21:18 GMT
#638
Oh I didn't even see the claim from LS. Looking for a better wagon while taking notes lol. I think inmaterial is a good lynch
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 21:18 GMT
#639
On November 05 2014 06:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:12 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Fuck. Never answered this one, did I?

On November 04 2014 12:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

I'll take the contract with the extended sheeping plan. I make the most rational decisions on the way to the chopping block anyway.

Also, this is my first game of mafia where I no longer have swim practice. Which means i should,be able to operate much more efficiently now!

I agree with superbia in saying that a good town wouldn't take this contract if he thought it was serious.

Already discussed my rationale behind this.


After signing up for the tunnel, he starts to talk about game setup and host-based WIFOM rather than talking about what the superbia post really means. At this point the superbia post has been beat to death and then beat some more but at the time of this post the only other comment on it was batsnacks' vote.

Even after batsnacks less-than-subtly points out why the speculation is useless sentinel continues to talk about host-based wifom.

How is that less than subtle? When I saw that, it was an invitation for me to explain my masterful analysis.


It's not until I explain that BH wouldn't offend the RNG gods that he reconsiders yet leaves in "I stand by my practice of rigging games." Not to sound nitpicky but that seems like a trolly leave-behind to get people talking about RNG-rigging rather than the game at hand.

Now let's look at his actions after the fabled tunneling professional returns. I'm going to be quoting from this post

I wait for you to make an argument and see who, if anyone, sheeps it or incorporates it into their case on me. Then I can poke holes in it appropriately, and I have a list of people who are trying to sneak by under the floorboards while you attract all the attention.

Well, here's the first person to incorporate super's logic in his case. Come at me, brother.

Seems about right! In fact, kush's laconic vote just now seems to mark him red in my books.

Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.

So elvis looks scummy for wasting town's time talking about someone he thinks is unimportant? What about wasting town's time talking about game setup information that can never be confirmed, is that scummy?

It got people talking about something, which is always better than people talking about nothing. Again, as I've said before, I didn't even find Superbia's tunnel thing to be scummy until he excused himself from the thread, because that's where he leaves the thread in confusion. Then he arrived, cleared his name, etc. and the rest is history.


Then this post.
On November 04 2014 10:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:55 Elvis! wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 04 2014 02:30 Elvis! wrote:
so posting something trolly on the second page makes someone scummy, inflicts (apparently) massive amounts of chaos and confusion. Okay I guess. So we should be having ~5 scum caught already since a lot of people posted stuff like that on the first couple of pages.

The difference is that what Superbia did became central to our discussion. Hell, even my post about RNG-rigging could have been a similar reason to pressure vote me, although I was around to clear up the discussion while Superbia went to sleep.


Well then even you say that your post was as trolly/chaotic as superbia's? A scum slip this early?

We had different motivations to same effects. I was trying to work out a way to help find scum by way of setup. He was trying to find scum by setting out a trap. Neither ended up working and ended up in disorder, his more than mine.

On November 04 2014 06:58 Elvis! wrote:
Why would town Elvis continue to mention that your post was trolling if he was trying to get people to discuss something else? That doesn't seem very sensible to me; it just refocuses discussion on the nature of your post.


Sooooo in what way is saying that this is an unnecesarry topic bringing the focus back to it? Especially most of my posts were in a row and people didn't even have time to write something in between?

Well, here are all the posts in your filter, in order, starting with #6 and ending with #10:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:31 Elvis! wrote:
As a note on Superbia:
His disputed post just seems so trolly, wanna see if he actually pulls through (which would be retarded as fuck - I'm not used to Superbia doing stuff that stupid), so I'll not go on the wagon yet.
If he actually does that shit, holy moly he's gon get lynched.

On November 03 2014 11:32 Elvis! wrote:
Also I can't get any reasonable townreads as of yet, since everyone is just reading into an obviously trolly post.

On November 03 2014 11:33 Elvis! wrote:
If superbia doesn't pull through we'll just have wasted a fuckton of time going after someone with like 2 posts.

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Not wanting to sheep superbia, his post is really weird, just don't know if it's town weird or scum weird until he posts again

On November 03 2014 11:38 Elvis! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 KelsierSC wrote:
There are other things to discuss outside of supers post


Make an example


Pretty much focused on Superbia, but also note that you call it an "obviously trolly post", and also say that if Superbia does nothing then the whole discussion is a waste of time. But then why perpetuate the discussion with five more posts in a row? You're filling a quarter of a page in a game where the volume of posting is low on a player who you deem irrelevant to events.


let's look at the timestamps of elvis' posts you quoted in the spoiler.
November 03 2014 11:31
November 03 2014 11:32
November 03 2014 11:33
November 03 2014 11:38
November 03 2014 11:38


You're making him seem like he's trying to derail discussion multiple seperate times yet all the posts you quote are from a 7-minute period of time. Your logic only follows if people perpetuated the discussion because of elvis and, to be honest, the only person to do that is you.

Did I do that? I said he's spamming up the game with something he admits isn't important. My issue isn't with him, my issue is that it was important, and that it's good that he's bringing it up but bad that he's distancing himself from it.

I'd vote kush because goddamn that's a scummy vote but I still stay on LS because I refuse to believe that BH would do that, then LS would spend most of Day 1 thinking he's detective when it's not a role in the OP and not ask any questions.

The host told me in a pm that Detective is a Cop but I can't prove due to rules but after I get lynched I pretty sure eh can show what he told me in the pms.


When did he tell you this? Was it before or after you told us you were the detective?

After but I kind fo figured beforehand.

Why didn't you check beforehand?

On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help.

If it wasn't in the OP, how would you have known which power you had?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 21:18 GMT
#640
nah I am not buying it.

##unvote

##vote lightningstriker

I start work at 2pm (deadline) so I may not be here for any shennanies.
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