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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 23:58:03
October 27 2014 23:56 GMT
#26
/in

On October 28 2014 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 00:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Since this game has been slow to fill, I may trim the setup so that we're able to start in a reasonable amount of time.



Well there's a game running so wait till that's ended :p


if you're talking about resistance, a resistance game usually takes about a month, but could take in theory as short as a week or as long as 7 or 8 weeks
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-27 23:57:57
October 27 2014 23:57 GMT
#27
*accidental double post
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 28 2014 00:03 GMT
#30
On October 28 2014 09:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 08:56 Blazinghand wrote:
/in

On October 28 2014 00:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 28 2014 00:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Since this game has been slow to fill, I may trim the setup so that we're able to start in a reasonable amount of time.



Well there's a game running so wait till that's ended :p


if you're talking about resistance, a resistance game usually takes about a month, but could take in theory as short as a week or as long as 7 or 8 weeks


quite clearly meant the fantasy football one anyone in the hearthstone game can easily play 2 at once


Ah, I got confused because of time zones-- you made that post a couple hours before the game ended.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 28 2014 00:52 GMT
#35
On October 28 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote:
This is my first time trying, so please be patient if I'm not quick to post or what have you.

That being said, I'm in.


I have a game open for new players, actually, if you want to play a game that's starting sooner and geared towards mixing new and old players, with features like one on one coaching: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome
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Blazinghand *
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United States25551 Posts
October 28 2014 23:39 GMT
#80
/confirm
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United States25551 Posts
October 31 2014 16:42 GMT
#471
Hey guys, just checking in before I get started reading. Anything urgent I need to know?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 31 2014 16:48 GMT
#476
Ok, I'll take that as a "no"
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 31 2014 20:32 GMT
#500
ok just got ambushed by some dinner, so i'm cutting off reading for now. i'll be back after dinner in about 10 hours
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 31 2014 20:33 GMT
#501
er, probably actually more like 3 hours, but yeah. I definitely promise to make a case and put in a vote before the 24-hour mark though since i'm aware this is annoying to people who are looking to me for leadership.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:06 GMT
#578
Ok I won't actually have time to make a real case between now and 2 hours from now when I promised I'd vote by. Some dinner issues came up. However, as the best player here I still have an obligation to lead town to victory, so I will lead, as I always do.

It seems clear to me that it's time for an RNG lynch.

So here's what happens

1) you all will follow me since I'm the best player here

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 9. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. Basically, in addition to a "what post in this thread" post ID, each post has a unique sitewide id # that's increasing so quickly because of TL traffic, I can use it to RNG effectively.

I've done this before. It works. If you don't know what "modulo" means or how my rng lynch works after this explantion, you are not mathematically and educationally qualified to claim that this lynch is not RNG. In the past game, this has lynched scum 100% of the time and it caused town to basically win. You can't deny RNG.

For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =OWS, 2 = LT, etc, all the way up to 16 = holyflare and 0 = JB.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-17 by taking that number mod 17. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 16 mod 17 = 16. 17 mod 17 = 0. 19 mod 17 = 2. 24 mod 17 = 7. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 17. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = OWS
2 = LT

etc etc all the way up to

16 = HF
0 = JB

(since a multiple of 14 modulo 14 is 0, not 14).

+ Show Spoiler [player list] +


1) ObiWanShinobi
2) Lord Tolkien
3) Misder
4) ritoky
5) risk.nuke
6) jrkirby
7) Seuss
8) VisceraEyes
9) GlowingBear
10) Oatsmaster
11) Alakaslam
12) Blazinghand
13) Damdred
14) liancourt
15) Circumstance
16) Holyflare
17) jaybrundage


there is no force on earth that can persuade me that RNG lynch is sub-optimal. bow before the RNG lynch. behold its glory and its horror and all of its majesty
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:08 GMT
#580
The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23206369

23206369 mod 17 = 9

9th player is glowingbear

##vote GlowingBEAR

GB, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:09 GMT
#582
heh, GB, of course you disagree with RNG, you are scum-- RNG has proven it. now DIE.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:10 GMT
#584
On November 01 2014 09:09 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:08 Blazinghand wrote:
The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23206369

23206369 mod 17 = 9

9th player is glowingbear

##vote GlowingBEAR

GB, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH.

LOL


THE GODS HAVE SPOKEN. LET THEIR WILL BE DONE.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:14 GMT
#590
On November 01 2014 09:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
heh, GB, of course you disagree with RNG, you are scum-- RNG has proven it. now DIE.


I'm scum with the largest filter day1.
Try again BH lol

HE ADMITS IT
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:20 GMT
#594
On November 01 2014 09:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:09 Blazinghand wrote:
heh, GB, of course you disagree with RNG, you are scum-- RNG has proven it. now DIE.


I'm scum with the largest filter day1.
Try again BH lol

HE ADMITS IT


BH IF YOU ARE TOWN YOU'RE MESSING THE THREAD. DISCUSSING RNG WON'T GET US ANYWHERE AND IT WON'T GENERATE CONVERSATION MORE THAN BRINGING READS TO THE THREAD.

COME ON!


mmhmm, "rng is disrupting scumhunting", a historically common scum response to rng. Like, I know i've been kinda joking a bit, but literally the most common scum response to rng is to claim that rng is disrupting the thread somehow (rather than just calling it bad or ignoring it)
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 00:23 GMT
#596
On November 01 2014 09:20 jrkirby wrote:
BH why didn't you let us discuss rng lynch before culculating the rng so we can tell if anybody changes their mind about rng based on the outcome of it?


This is a fair question. The fact of the matter is, every rng lynch discussion that doesn't roll the dice goes like this. People basically vaguely talk about how rng is not great, or talk about stats about historical rng, or whatever. Nobody gets invested, nobody cares, nobody gives away reads, nobody is under pressure, and nobody gets lynched. Take a look at the low tier policy talk in ANY game. What makes me, and my RNG, different, is that it selects a target before people discuss whether it's good or not. Now scum are on the line. Now they suddenly feel a need to justify or NOT justify voting for or not voting for GB, who is probably their scumbuddy. They're in a tough spot and it absolutely wrecks scumteams.

I'm different than most people, jrkirby. Most people don't policy. Most people don't have the rock-hard, cast-iron BALLS to push policy like I do. Policy isn't REAL unless you're willing to go balls to the wall to lynch your policy target. And by jove, I WILL lynch GB, just as I've lynched so many others with the power of RNG.

It is inevitable.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 09:19 GMT
#686
I disagree that it's different. Admittedly, I had not originally planned to use it but due to special reasons it became necessary to have a decisive vote. Why does this make me scum? I lynched scum last time with RNG so why oppose it now that it us proven to work
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 22:07 GMT
#938
On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
But there are two problems here:
1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off
2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.


The whole point or RNG, GB, is that I don't have control over who is lynched. Nobody does. It's RNG. If it was "I'm gonna use RNG, but only follow up on it if the guy is a lurker", that wouldn't be RNG, that would be "BH likes to talk about RNG but when the chips are down he folds" and I am not a guy who folds when the chips are down. I take RNG seriously, and yes, sometimes RNG lands on an active scum instead of a passive scum. That doesn't make it less valid.

On November 01 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok. I know for a fact that BH likes RNG.
I also know for a fact that sometimes he uses this to generate discussion.

But there are two problems here:
1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off
2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.

It looks like he is trying to get town off the right track, because he is insisting on a mechanic that is going to lead on a mislynches. He is not reading the game and he is not caring for the game. You can see that he refuses to talk about anything else.

Who BH thinks is scum? Nobody knows.
Who BH thinks is town? Nobody knows.

Passivity and creating confusion. Mafia traits.
BH is mafia.

nah point 2 isnt relevant because RNGing then deciding to push that person defeats the purpose of RNG.

So yeah these are mostly bad reasons why BH is scum.
If BH was town, he would do the RNG shit too. But he would do additional stuff like trying harder to convince people to jump on the RNG wagon.


Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum.

On November 01 2014 21:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, he had the chance to do it earlier. He came to the thread, someone sent him to dinner (lol) and he peace'd out.
Why he didn't start the RNG that time and not now?


Eh, I wasn't really planning to do it, but it turned out I had to go to dinner and didn't have enough time to do any other voting strategy or do a bigger analysis of the thread. I'm 100% sure I already said this. Didn' you read my filter?

On November 01 2014 23:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok oats.
My first thought was that maybe we should lynch Kirby
But after reading BH's previous games I want to lynch him so much.


Explain?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 22:09 GMT
#939
On November 02 2014 00:39 Damdred wrote:
While I would love to lynch GB today I mean I really would love to lynch gb. I am 100% not lynching into the biggest filter on day one. GB still hasn't delivered cases like hes promised or a lot of updated reads but hes usually not spammy as scum either so possibly a d3 lynch.

BH has a shot at being scum for his inactivity really, misder has a decent shot


I have legit IRL reasons for being inactive: I was busy eating dinner

On November 02 2014 01:00 Damdred wrote:
I said could be due to his inactivity, its just a meta suspicion bh has to do more or less to get a firm scum read.

What about those cases and reads you promised gb


don't mind GB he's just trying to opt out of the discourse by yelling about me and RNG, and hoping people don't pay attention to the fact that RNG is objectively a great strat, and it landed on scum last game.

I can't believe anyone questions RNG at all any more
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
November 01 2014 22:15 GMT
#945
On November 02 2014 01:39 GlowingBear wrote:
We are killing Damdred today

Place your votes right now!


I understand the lack of reasoning here. You're finally feeling the pressure of RNG getting under your skin, and so you decide to switch to the inarticulate Damdred who will not defend himself like I do, hoping to draw attention away from the fact that the gods have decreed your death.

On November 02 2014 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Your still being lazy and scummy gb, why not make a case instead of being lazzy?


Trying to discredit me isn't going to work now, damdy. Anyone who reads my filter will see that I gave reads plenty of times. I even said that, by BH's meta, I thought he was scum.


not sure I understand your meta read of me. In fact, at least 75% of the time that people make a meta read of BH=scum they're just wrong. I'm not really sure why, my scum meta is fairly straight forwards. In any case, stop trying to play with the big boys and admit it: you got gotted by RNg

On November 02 2014 01:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Jay, we are voting Damdred. Place your vote


even though you just "proved" I was scum via meta?

On November 02 2014 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 01:59 Damdred wrote:
On November 02 2014 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2014 01:16 Damdred wrote:
i just copy pasted my notes its not like i spent any considerable amount of time i answered a question posed to me in the best manner I could. Nobody asked me about my reads in general they asked about one specific person and why i read him that way so i showed it, so don't paint me for that.

Look at the other reasons people are giving for voting for people, not contributing, approaching badly etc.. So stop attacking me for not having a huge case on people doing nothing basically all day, gb admits to being super lazy and just fuck everyone else. And its not null tells gb its your scum tells.

Oats you have no room to talk buddy

ohhhh noooo I have plenty of room to talk.
YOU HAVE NO SCUM READS DUDE.


This is false, I have three scum reads currently

explain with quotes and references,
500 words, 12 pt arial, double spacing, justified.



Oats is town this game
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