Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2

Bill Plaschke
You are Bill Plaschke and you're just another talking head in the media machine. Once during each night phase you may pm the host #talkaballaup PlayerName, the follow day phase you will be able to communicate with that player outside of the thread. You are a town mason.

On October 23 2014 13:08 IAmRobik wrote:
hi. im blue. bye.

On October 23 2014 13:11 IAmRobik wrote:

this post sucks almost enough for me to rescind my towm read on hf.

On October 23 2014 13:14 IAmRobik wrote:

i cant stay away. too easy to post as town

On October 24 2014 05:44 liancourt wrote:
Wheres rayn i want his opinion on all of this?

And anyone else agree with robik that i am playing scummy?

On October 24 2014 05:54 liancourt wrote:
Elaborate shit posting cos its better than dead thread i think.

On October 24 2014 06:03 IAmRobik wrote:

Why aren't you putting in effort and making reads like you did in the other FF game ?

On October 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:

Man your whole demeanor is really different than I remember from your towngames. Your content is also subpar.

On October 24 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
its a shame im not really that motivated to keep pushing you lian for leaving that bait out. zzZZZzzZzz

nearly been 24 hours and no votes................................................

i bet mafia be the quiet peoples with less than 2 pages of filter.
the vibes be real

On October 24 2014 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:

Feels soooooooo fake. Omg.

On October 24 2014 07:09 StorrZerg wrote:



sure ill call you scum
lets fight

On October 24 2014 07:12 DrParnassus wrote:


This is a really weird thing to say, the implication is that fecalfeast plans on calling lian scummy regardless of what liam does.

ff i'll gladly vote for if that's what you actually want

On October 24 2014 06:50 StorrZerg wrote:


Why are you assuming he is a new player

On October 24 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:

Read the thread and then come back.

On October 24 2014 06:52 StorrZerg wrote:
yeah just saw

On October 24 2014 07:20 batsnacks wrote:


FF you said that something about Liam preferring anti-town arguments but he never said that, this is what he said:



So did you skim that post or are you just reaching for reasons to scum read the guy who's "shitposting"?

On October 24 2014 07:29 liancourt wrote:
i don't think i said anything about believing anything in my post.

On October 24 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
fecal is like super serious this game

On October 24 2014 07:32 StorrZerg wrote:


i never said i thought he was new though....

brand new, kinda new, week old new. none of that.

as robik quoted, he isn't a a new player to the game of mafia.

he may be "new" to team liquid, but i was clearly responding to jat thinking lain was a new player to the game.

On October 24 2014 07:31 batsnacks wrote:


The way you worded it though was Liam is "more worried about arguing points [he] [doesn't] actually believe" i.e. anti-town reasons.

The emphasis is on Liam arguing for anti town reasons. It's a tone thing I guess.

Do you think Liam is arguing this game for anti-town reasons?

On October 24 2014 01:22 StorrZerg wrote:


im getting scum vibe off him. he isn't really doing anything, and his push at slam didnt accomplish anything. last game he was out of the gates on fire bleeding town.

On October 24 2014 08:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not asking for a replacement. I will play and wreck mafia.

Getting out of work.

On October 24 2014 08:10 IAmRobik wrote:

wtf?!?! this read like a scum claim to anyone else given recemt conversation?

On October 24 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, Sherlock. But that is not the point. The point is do you think lian is scummy for saying this? And if you think so - why?

On October 24 2014 08:13 batsnacks wrote:


Where is Liam doing this? I don't see it.

On October 24 2014 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Don't you think that openly stating that he cares more about argueing than winning is something scum would rarely do?

On October 24 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote:
civ 6 release yehhhhhhhhh

On October 24 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:


Very possible could be store, Lian and hf...

wait bear you no whisper in my ear I whisper you, I'm the bear whiserer.

On October 24 2014 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:



Lynch Robik.

Immediately.

On October 24 2014 10:56 GlowingBear wrote:


20 pages of thread and yes, I have a scumread on lian. The strongest, but not strong.
So you didn't had any reads at page 20? You think that it's impossible?

On October 24 2014 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:


I was trying to gauge reactions but meh... Failed horribly.
I was hoping that town Robik would come to the thread and shit on me. He didn't :/

On October 24 2014 11:37 GlowingBear wrote:


Ok HF, from the case I posted, what's different?

On October 24 2014 11:39 GlowingBear wrote:


Bah.
I will, but not now. I'm too tired. Gonna sleep.

On October 24 2014 11:41 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm trying to prove that nothing has changed regarding lian.

Whatever, HF is trying to discredit my case not because my case isn't accurate, but because I've only read 20 pages of thread, and you're buying it.

On October 24 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
3. liancourt
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet
14. DrParnassus

On October 24 2014 12:28 Elvis! wrote:
So here's my position at this point in time, having read anything:
What the hell is going on with this game. I expected to come back to some pushes, people talking about minor scumslips, people OMGUS-ing each other, people teaming up, and mostly:
People making cases that are more than a couple of lines.
Like, seriously, noone has posted any big reads on anyone yet that they haven't taken back soon after.

On a related note, I don't really know who to go on myself.

This are the things that stuck out the most:

-lian asking a couple of times what people think is scummy in his posts. I think this might be a scum action, since I think his plan with this is to have people dive his filter and not find anything, making him look townie for them.
Note, that noone was forced into posting risky stuff at all as of yet, so not making slip-ups is pretty easy, so obviously people are not going to find scum slip-ups.
A townie wouldn't care that much about his reputation being clean and making people think he's not scum, but hunt scum instead.
Scum really wants people to "not find anything scummy and thus consider them townie".
Not posting obvious scum slip-ups doesn't give you any town points.

This makes me think he leans scum.


Fecalfeast kinda looks awfully similair to how he played my last game against him, where he was mafia and annihilated us.
For reasons why the obs called him scum early and why I feel he'S similair once more, read the obs QT, they knew a lot better than us townspeople:

Then, notice how he didn't wanna talk about his recent mafia win at first and tries to play it down to "him being bad, since he got caught day one". As a townie, why wouldn't you mention it when talking about it at first glance? Mafia has a big initiative to hide information about their previous scum games, he's trying to make it look like it's "not worth looking at his previous games".
He's really trying hard to hide himself from anything scum-related. Also looks similair to his last game, and as someone stated previously it's difficult to change styles quickly. Since he's not a crazily experienced player I wouldn't expect him to be so good at this to hide this very well.


GlowingBear and DrParnassus look a bit weird to me atm, not really townie, but I'll elaborate more on them at a later stance, since at the moment they don't look as scummy as ff and lain. They might just be weird townie, so I rate the null at the moment.

I don't care much about saying who my biggest townie etc. is since I'm not here to find the "Townie Idol" of teamliquid but rather to find scum.

So at the moment, ff and lain are the people I rate scummy the most and they'd go ok as buds.

Unsure about GlowingBear and DrParnassus, will go on them more if they make actions more scummy or if ff and lain go more in the null direction. Not focussing on them now.
Everyone else didn't have many interesting things to say, there's so many one-liners and tiny pushes that get erased 1 page later that are not worth interpreting at the moment.


Will see how active I can be tomorrow. I have a mate coming over for the weekend even though he said he's not coming for 2 weeks, so I don't know as of yet.

Also I don't get the fifa comparison is either terrible or I just don't get it. Seems quite complicated and weird to me.

On October 25 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAt please vote for HF.
Not kush. He is town.
Do yyou know where i stand? If not ask me. Hf is mafia.

On October 25 2014 05:19 DrParnassus wrote:


if I had an answer to that I'd share it. i realize that makes it hard for people to read my alignment but I'm not just going to fabricate a scum read just to appease you guys.

On October 24 2014 13:12 DrParnassus wrote:
wow i'm dumb nvm my last post

On October 25 2014 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:


K, go back to lurking then.
No way you would say something like "My reads from earlier have [stayed the same/gotten stronger/gotten weaker]" if you were actually reading the game and thinking about your reads and who could be mafia.

No you'd come back to the thread after 12 pages with 0 scumreads and nohing to say 7 hours before deadline.

Last post before becoming active on page 41:


First post today is page 53. You are not playing the game.

On October 25 2014 05:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Who are you voting, FF?

On October 25 2014 05:11 geript wrote:
Vote Count
justanothertownie (0): Superbia
liancourt (0): Superbia, Fecalfeast
fecalfeast (1): Superbia
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear
batsnacks (2): Holyflare, kushm4sta
Holyflare (2): raynpelikoneet, justanothertownie, GlowingBear
kushm4sta (0): GlowingBear, justanothertownie
DrParnassus (3): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, justanothertownie

Not Voting (6): Damdred, liancourt, batsnacks, Elvis!, IAmRobik, DrParnassus

Currently DrParnassus is set to be lynched
Day 1 ends at Saturday, Oct 25 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in )
Voting is mandatory and can be done here in the voting thread

On October 25 2014 09:31 GlowingBear wrote:


JAT, only.

Why?

On October 25 2014 09:56 GlowingBear wrote:


Why did you sheep him with the Unvote on thrawn?

On October 25 2014 10:11 GlowingBear wrote:


What's good on thrawn's case that made you Unvote him?

On September 17 2014 04:39 batsnacks wrote:
People are making me grumpy. Holyflare is an excellent lynch today. There are at least as many people who have said they want to vote HF as there are people who said they want to vote kush.

On October 24 2014 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
HF you said FF is lynched if he doesn't explain his Liam read. You just now said he never adequately explained it, and supposedly he's still on your lynch list, but to me it looks like you've completely forgotten about him.

And now you want to lynch kush?? You are ignoring FF

On October 25 2014 06:15 batsnacks wrote:
A lot of people have said this and that about how FF looks scummy but you'd never know that looking at the voting thread.

On October 25 2014 11:05 GlowingBear wrote:


Why aren't you considering Superbia?

On October 25 2014 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:


Based on vote count, it's pretty possible that FF bussed batsnacks at that point. And you

On October 25 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:


Quite literally impossible to tell

On October 26 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't get it. Elvis made 1 (!) big post and that is enough for you to metaread him as town without ever seeing his scumplay? Wut? Do you have any opinion on the content of the post?

On October 24 2014 12:28 Elvis! wrote:
So here's my position at this point in time, having read anything:
What the hell is going on with this game. I expected to come back to some pushes, people talking about minor scumslips, people OMGUS-ing each other, people teaming up, and mostly:
People making cases that are more than a couple of lines.
Like, seriously, noone has posted any big reads on anyone yet that they haven't taken back soon after.

On a related note, I don't really know who to go on myself.

This are the things that stuck out the most:

-lian asking a couple of times what people think is scummy in his posts. I think this might be a scum action, since I think his plan with this is to have people dive his filter and not find anything, making him look townie for them.
Note, that noone was forced into posting risky stuff at all as of yet, so not making slip-ups is pretty easy, so obviously people are not going to find scum slip-ups.
A townie wouldn't care that much about his reputation being clean and making people think he's not scum, but hunt scum instead.
Scum really wants people to "not find anything scummy and thus consider them townie".
Not posting obvious scum slip-ups doesn't give you any town points.

This makes me think he leans scum.


Fecalfeast kinda looks awfully similair to how he played my last game against him, where he was mafia and annihilated us.
For reasons why the obs called him scum early and why I feel he'S similair once more, read the obs QT, they knew a lot better than us townspeople:

Then, notice how he didn't wanna talk about his recent mafia win at first and tries to play it down to "him being bad, since he got caught day one". As a townie, why wouldn't you mention it when talking about it at first glance? Mafia has a big initiative to hide information about their previous scum games, he's trying to make it look like it's "not worth looking at his previous games".
He's really trying hard to hide himself from anything scum-related. Also looks similair to his last game, and as someone stated previously it's difficult to change styles quickly. Since he's not a crazily experienced player I wouldn't expect him to be so good at this to hide this very well.


GlowingBear and DrParnassus look a bit weird to me atm, not really townie, but I'll elaborate more on them at a later stance, since at the moment they don't look as scummy as ff and lain. They might just be weird townie, so I rate the null at the moment.

I don't care much about saying who my biggest townie etc. is since I'm not here to find the "Townie Idol" of teamliquid but rather to find scum.

So at the moment, ff and lain are the people I rate scummy the most and they'd go ok as buds.

Unsure about GlowingBear and DrParnassus, will go on them more if they make actions more scummy or if ff and lain go more in the null direction. Not focussing on them now.
Everyone else didn't have many interesting things to say, there's so many one-liners and tiny pushes that get erased 1 page later that are not worth interpreting at the moment.


Will see how active I can be tomorrow. I have a mate coming over for the weekend even though he said he's not coming for 2 weeks, so I don't know as of yet.

Also I don't get the fifa comparison is either terrible or I just don't get it. Seems quite complicated and weird to me.

On October 26 2014 08:04 justanothertownie wrote:

I know. You said so already. I wanted to hear why FF thought so because to me it sounded like he just townread him for making a big post.

To your earlier question. Look at lians filter for example. He does not care about the lynch and rarely if ever contributes in any way to it. He jokes about stuff instead. Says next to nothing about batsnacks except that he townreads him for defending him which is quite frankly awful.

On October 26 2014 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:


You're not dying tonight.

On October 27 2014 03:34 justanothertownie wrote:

This is literally impossible unless you want to sell us that Robik - as town - lied to us about tracking damdred. Like that he purposefully ruined this game for his own team. Do you really believe that?

On October 25 2014 10:39 geript wrote:
Vote Count
justanothertownie (0): Superbia
liancourt (0): Superbia, Fecalfeast
fecalfeast (2): Superbia, batsnacks
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear, GlowingBear
batsnacks (7): Holyflare, kushm4sta, DrParnassus, Alakaslam, justanothertownie, fecalfeast, Damdred
Holyflare (1): raynpelikoneet, justanothertownie, GlowingBear
kushm4sta (1): GlowingBear, justanothertownie, liancourt
DrParnassus (0): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, justanothertownie, Damdred
Damdred (1): GlowingBear

Not Voting (2): Elvis!, IAmRobik

Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched
Day 1 ends at Saturday, Oct 25 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in )
Voting is mandatory and can be done here in the voting thread

On October 27 2014 08:05 justanothertownie wrote:

Nice. Don't forget Elvellosity though.

Both newfriends (FF/Elvis, now Marv) are probably town.

I only recall his short overview (list) post of which the shortness felt townie to me (i.e. mafia would’ve probably put in more effort),

Yeah, he pushed (and voted) on bats early on, but I don’t recall him contributing much to the push during the EoD. Also I would’ve probably bussed badsnacks if I was his partner too.

IamRobik is leaning town to me. Most of his posts feel townie

Justanothertownie is slightly leaning town to me. Had a tryhard and pushy opening, followed by some straightforward neutral townposts.

DrParnassus is leaning scum to me. I loved his first post, and don’t recall any of his other posts. Strong opening followed by weak play is probably scum. Also this recent post really ticked me off

Only noticed this post:

None of his other posts made it into my (death) note book

Had some decentish posts.

I only recall his short overview (list) post

I loved his first post, and don’t recall any of his other posts.

On October 27 2014 09:33 GlowingBear wrote:
He never commented on damdred in his posts. He says that if kush flips mafia, Rayn probably is. Why wouldn't he track kush?
Ok, he townread kush after but... Still... I can't understand his motivation on tracking damdred, specifically.

Also, if Robik is mafia, I can totally see him getting modkilled and making damdred die for a 1v1 trade

On October 27 2014 09:33 GlowingBear wrote:
He never commented on damdred in his posts. He says that if kush flips mafia, Rayn probably is. Why wouldn't he track kush?
Ok, he townread kush after but... Still... I can't understand his motivation on tracking damdred, specifically.

Also, if Robik is mafia, I can totally see him getting modkilled and making damdred die for a 1v1 trade

On October 27 2014 10:15 Damdred wrote:
Geript didn't take my suggestion.

so if its ok with everyone I'll play the last 24 hours at least have some fun.

So lets kill someone else

On October 27 2014 10:50 Damdred wrote:
I don't want to get modkilled so I'll talk about it after the game. Wasn't to shorten the day though

I mean ff I can just let you guys lynch me, I would rather play though.

Storr replacement would be my top lynch though

On October 27 2014 11:00 GlowingBear wrote:


Lol I was just correcting you.
Wtf...

On October 25 2014 10:39 geript wrote:
Vote Count
justanothertownie (0): Superbia
liancourt (0): Superbia, Fecalfeast
fecalfeast (2): Superbia, batsnacks
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear, GlowingBear
batsnacks (7): Holyflare, kushm4sta, DrParnassus, Alakaslam, justanothertownie, fecalfeast, Damdred
Holyflare (1): raynpelikoneet, justanothertownie, GlowingBear
kushm4sta (1): GlowingBear, justanothertownie, liancourt
DrParnassus (0): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, justanothertownie, Damdred
Damdred (1): GlowingBear

Not Voting (2): Elvis!, IAmRobik

Currently batsnacks is set to be lynched
Day 1 ends at Saturday, Oct 25 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in )
Voting is mandatory and can be done here in the voting thread

On October 27 2014 11:09 Fecalfeast wrote:


OK Damdred, this is the universe where you're not lying and robik is the scummer. Do you think any scum were on batsnacks? Do you believe your green check on lian with the possibility of a framer and/or a godfather in the game?

On October 27 2014 11:19 liancourt wrote:
ever thought robik was setting up to lie and get damd killed cos he's cop.

On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.

On October 27 2014 11:38 Superbia wrote:


Really? Care to explain why? Like I don't give a flying fuck about any of my reads on damd, HF or whatever. They claimed blue and it's un-cced, which means they live through today and tomorrow (possibly excepting damd). People wanting to lynch damd are not thinking correctly. Normally you have to lynch to figure out who the real claim is, agreed. But the mod is kindly doing that for us, so we lynch someone else and: 1. not risk lynching possible cop, 2. possibly win game outright, 3. get more information regardless. Is my logic fucking wrong here???

On October 27 2014 11:40 DrParnassus wrote:
I understand the "don't lynch damdred" argument but that argument is invalid because of how likely it is that he will flip red

On October 27 2014 11:43 GlowingBear wrote:
But... That logic is mine!

Copyrighted.

On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.

On October 27 2014 11:46 DrParnassus wrote:
lol superbia and in your opinion it'd be better to lynch Jat today? no i'd rather risk losing the cop tbh. with 2 mafia left and a million blues they most likely will have a roleblocker so a cop is useless

On October 27 2014 11:45 kushm4sta wrote:
It's not about playing optimally anymore because we don't need to. It's about winning this game as quickly as possible. That's why we should kill damdred.

On October 27 2014 11:49 Superbia wrote:


I had a pretty decent townread on Elvis! d1 and it's transferring to today. Also had GB as pretty town yesterday. Prefer to kill JaT because he's basically my weakest town out of all of those.

On October 27 2014 11:49 justanothertownie wrote:

Oh you... <3
Now I hope marv is town, lol.

On October 27 2014 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Wow ff I'm glad to know what you think about me like seriously.

On October 27 2014 11:54 Damdred wrote:
I just got dealt the worst hand in a long time in mafia no matter alignment and your going to call me a donkey ff? I am really insulted I decided that I should play the last 24 hrs of the game out and respect the fucking game out and have respect for geript. I have not insulted anyone or went after anyones play so please give me the same respect

On October 27 2014 12:08 Damdred wrote:
Don't worry ff I like you and playing with you im dying today by modkill my novote or lynch town go kipl someone else im done with the game I don't blame any host or player besides one.

I apologize for lashing out but im done with this game and I hope no one takes it personally.

On October 27 2014 12:13 Superbia wrote:
Lian is confirmed town unless robik flips blue EoD, so no-lynch for today.

On October 27 2014 17:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey so

Did not read but we lynch Superbia now?

What is happening?

On October 27 2014 17:39 Alakaslam wrote:
I am trying but it's 1:40 dude

Like what why are you even not asleep lol

On October 28 2014 03:01 geript wrote:
I thought it was funny

On October 28 2014 04:05 Superbia wrote:
My original plan was to misslynch d2 and then force lynch on damd d3, game would still be hard from there but not impossible. But there was close to 0% chance of victory in the current scenario. The fact that I had subbed in didn't help at all, I felt pretty disconnected from the game (which would've happened regardless of alignment) and that made projecting town a lot harder. Also personal time-constraints didn't help. Well played town!

On October 28 2014 07:23 kushm4sta wrote:
this game was a feast of fecal matter