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On October 14 2014 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am basically voting for anyone to not lynch geript.
That lynch is going to ruin the game.
Dear rayn,
I have a gut mafia read on geript from the start. I think VE makes some decent points. I think damdred makes an interesting point as well regarding if x is your top scum read then why do you then spend time pushing/making a case on y? Could you please give me reasons as to meritorious things geript has done and/or a non-coin flip target?
Sincerely,
ritoky
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On October 14 2014 05:08 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:05 DarthPunk wrote:
I kinda want to just lynch glowinbear to see if I am right and he is scum. You have NO REASON to lynch me NO FUCKING REASON. I can anticipate: you're wrong.
I am still waiting on that re-read and consolidated reads post you have promised 3x.
Plus you keep spouting the cliche "I am trying to solve the game" line in your defense rather than actively find scum.
You were overly defensive/excusive when unprovoked about it.
I mean...that took me like 0 effort to remember, didn't even have to look back. So yeah, there's a good bit of reason as to why you're scum.
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On October 14 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:11 ritoky wrote:On October 14 2014 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am basically voting for anyone to not lynch geript.
That lynch is going to ruin the game. Dear rayn, I have a gut mafia read on geript from the start. I think VE makes some decent points. I think damdred makes an interesting point as well regarding if x is your top scum read then why do you then spend time pushing/making a case on y? Could you please give me reasons as to meritorious things geript has done and/or a non-coin flip target? Sincerely, ritoky Not talking to you because you are either playng very poorly or you are mafia because you just hide in the sidelines and do nothing and when someone is under attack you come in parroting other people. You have literally not done shit but so hasn't like 6 other players and it annoys the shit out of me. Let's lynch sqrt and go from there. Or Oats.
I am playing poorly and don't deserve talking to, yet you have a fairly unshakable town read on two others with lows post counts. Mhmmmmm, how does that work out exactly? As for me parroting others, you should go back and look at the thread rather than filters. Many people have been parroting my reads in 1 breath and calling me mafia with the next.
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On October 14 2014 05:27 geript wrote:
Ritoky if you are town, plz seriously stop fucking around. You're probably not town. But the fact that you've done nothing except spam food pics is ridiculous. I hope you get modkilled for that shit.
The fact that you just very recently played with me in the only game I was mafia on these forums and think I am not town from my current filter is absurd. I cannot believe your reads are that bad. But then again you just recently called VE bad and prob not town, so maybe they can be.
If you think I am fucking around, maybe you should stop looking at the pictures and read the content.
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On October 14 2014 05:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Why do you think oats is a better lynch, DP? He has sheeped really hard. He hasn't made moves on his own at all really. He has been constantly mentioned as a Lynch candidate but a wagon never started on him which was really weird. He doesn't look bad in the way I would expect as town, He seems more image conscious than his town games.
hasn't he been tunneled on me since i called him out for not going into the tunnel as his town meta? don't i fall under similar categories of being mentioned but not pushed? yet you choose oats. why did you show no interest in moving the vote, then it went on geript and you're up in a huff about it?
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On October 14 2014 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:37 DarthPunk wrote:On October 14 2014 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 14 2014 05:33 geript wrote:On October 14 2014 05:32 ritoky wrote:On October 14 2014 05:27 geript wrote:
Ritoky if you are town, plz seriously stop fucking around. You're probably not town. But the fact that you've done nothing except spam food pics is ridiculous. I hope you get modkilled for that shit. The fact that you just very recently played with me in the only game I was mafia on these forums and think I am not town from my current filter is absurd. I cannot believe your reads are that bad. But then again you just recently called VE bad and prob not town, so maybe they can be. If you think I am fucking around, maybe you should stop looking at the pictures and read the content. I would, but the food was the only thing of content in them. +1 and that's why ritoky couldvery well be scum. The posts he makes are to be forgotten. Does anyone remember anything ritoky has said without reading his filter? I don't. I actually think his posts are ok but the food is annoying as fuck. No they are not. They are uninteresting. Like they were in tinyhunt game where everyone and their mother read him as town and only the town based god cop saved us from total doom (and even then everyone and their mother wanted to lynch the real cop who was so obvious).
? I didn't play in tinyhunt? Sorry, you have the wrong individual.
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On October 14 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:42 ritoky wrote:On October 14 2014 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 14 2014 05:37 DarthPunk wrote:On October 14 2014 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 14 2014 05:33 geript wrote:On October 14 2014 05:32 ritoky wrote:On October 14 2014 05:27 geript wrote:
Ritoky if you are town, plz seriously stop fucking around. You're probably not town. But the fact that you've done nothing except spam food pics is ridiculous. I hope you get modkilled for that shit. The fact that you just very recently played with me in the only game I was mafia on these forums and think I am not town from my current filter is absurd. I cannot believe your reads are that bad. But then again you just recently called VE bad and prob not town, so maybe they can be. If you think I am fucking around, maybe you should stop looking at the pictures and read the content. I would, but the food was the only thing of content in them. +1 and that's why ritoky couldvery well be scum. The posts he makes are to be forgotten. Does anyone remember anything ritoky has said without reading his filter? I don't. I actually think his posts are ok but the food is annoying as fuck. No they are not. They are uninteresting. Like they were in tinyhunt game where everyone and their mother read him as town and only the town based god cop saved us from total doom (and even then everyone and their mother wanted to lynch the real cop who was so obvious). ? I didn't play in tinyhunt? Sorry, you have the wrong individual. yes you did. season of the witch = tinyhunt
oh, well you had me as your top town until i got red checked....so either you re-evaluated post game or you are lying, but w/e past games.
anywayz following my top town reads onto oats, not as confident as they are though.
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rough. back to back 12 hr days are always fun. i see DP is dead so i no longer have to maintain my food pictures to be a dick to him. gonna read like 15 pages now
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On October 15 2014 06:17 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
DarthPunk is the first one who picked up on my 'townslip'.
Uhhhhhh what? This just seems really weird. Why would you call your own play a "townslip" or try to "townslip"...townies just be townie....this is really weird. Also the rest of his post was pretty garbage, but it was so long didn't want to quote it. It was a lot of "I like this guy cuz he is trying to figure out the game" but not really figuring out the game.
Also he votes on a non-cc'd power role for not a solidly justifiable reason....lolwut? And it isn't even from lack of reading the thread, he expresses that he knows he is an un-cc'd power role.....
Mafia radar beginning to buzz.
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Why in the ever loving hell would you fake claim parity cop on d2 with 1 check....I am so utterly confused. You want to reaction test people? Okay MAYBE I buy that if you try to reaction test a different check or if it was a normal cop and you faked a red. But parity cop 0 information check? What the hell reaction are you hoping to garner? The only one I can think of is "will people buy this claim?" which is a mafia perspective. I mean, VE already decimated your anus over this; but I am inclined to agree with him that you need to die in a fire.
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On October 15 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
GB argument is this about me,
Damdred is not here to defend himself or to react to situations therefore he is mafia! Damdreds activity on another game is double what it was that day, even though we were in different phases in the cycle and nobody was talking in this game but me and he answered every question I asked him. He was also up for lynch there and was trying to get his final reads out.
Ritoky did the same BS in season of a witch, activity does not make me mafia or town. Look in season compare it to mission it was about the same time going on one i was way less active and town one i was way more active and mafia. And this is completely retarded that i'm having to defend myself based on activity and a bad meta read from people. Like this isn't even scum hunting its just trying to sound like you are. Good god
To be fair, I used it against you as mafia; so I wasn't using it as a meta-read. It was an excuse.
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Vote Analysis:
D1:
On October 14 2014 05:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count
GlowingBear (1):sqrtofneg1,
sqrtofneg1 (1): GlowingBear,
Sn0_Man (1): kushm4sta
geript (2): Dam, Oats
Oats (7): DP, Geript, VE, rayn, hopeless1, CR, ritoky
Mostly posting this for myself/others in the future.
Some pertinent pieces of info:
kush voted on confirmed town that didn't get lynched.
kush, gb, and sqrt had throwaway votes. 2 of whom had activity somewhat around the deadline in kush and gb.
Below is new stuff I am keeping track of, it may or may not be relevant. I am just trying it out to see if it yields anything in the future.
People who were leading in votes yesterday (in order): sqrt, ritoky, GB, sqrt, GB, geript, oats
Most active vote swappers:
DP - voted on every lead wagon except geript
Rayn - voted on every leading wagon except ritoky and geript (seems a bit contrary to his sentiment in the thread...)
VE/Geript - tied at voting on 3 lead wagons
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so rayn, why is it that you called me mafia pretty much the entire game, but haven't actually followed through on it in the slightest? including in voting; it is not like i had a deficiency of votes yesterday.
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On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia.
you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate?
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On October 15 2014 16:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 16:34 ritoky wrote:On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia. you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate? because i don't think you are most likely to be mafia and i can only lynch 1 person / day.
i am not buying what you're selling.
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On October 15 2014 16:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 16:34 ritoky wrote:On October 15 2014 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky your vote analysis is crap. you can't do vote analysis until there is flipped mafia. you're wrong, i have found multiple mafia easily from my vote analysis and been killed early in games because my vote analysis is strong on these forums. now answer my question. why are you not following through at all on me, even though in almost every one of your reads posts you mention me as a top mafia candidate? So what's your analysis? There is no analysis in your "vote analysis post" for starters.
with one sample of votes it is hard to conclude anything solid, usually you need two.
some of my initial thoughts are:
1) rayn was willing to vote off pretty much everyone except the person he most frequently listed as a scum read.
2) kush's vote combined with his lack of play and worse than me by a mile; yet no one really seems to be pressuring him other than for policy reasons.
still mulling some things about the rest of it over though.
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On October 15 2014 16:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then make a case on me and call me mafia.
i have a question for you about myself and CR:
we both voted for oats about 10-15 minutes before the deadline. at the time when CR voted, oats was 3 votes clear of being lynched and he unvoted sqrt (who was tied for 2nd). when i voted for sqrt, he was 4 votes clear of being lynched and it was my first vote. do you think either of these are alignment indicative? and if 1 or both of us are mafia, what would be the reason we would have for voting on someone we knew would flip town when they are about to die?
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Regarding all of the early stuff in your post:
1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me.
On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1?
VE and CR
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the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.
2 was something like this:
2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him.
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further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers.
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