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On October 15 2014 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GlowingBear i want your thoughts on ritoky and kush.
Ignore your claim/unclaim thing because i don't think you can gather any alignment indicative things from that as people calling out scummy stuff cannot possibly be scummy.....
I don't know about kush... His play as town is also not caring much... You can see mission mini mafia, he just placed a vote on Vivax when I've brought a lot of reasons and went full afk. I'm afraid to lynch him today.
Ritoky, on the other side, wasn't playing good. I have yet to read his latest posts with a little bit more of attention. But I don't have good vibes from him.
Rayn, we agree on sqrt. What do you think of lunching him today?
Also, please, check that post from geript. Try to understand it inside the context it was posted. I want your insight.
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I'm not refusing to talk about ritoky, Rayn. I haven't properly read your case and his latest posts yet so I can really give a good read about him, but for what I saw he looks scum from his d1 posts.
Damdred, I've already answered that in the exact post I've put him as leaning scum. His post after night1 looked like his townplay so I wasn't very sure on him. After, I re read his post and felt it was off. He is again my top scum read.
Also, Rayn brought good points about my case so I'm reconsidering it.
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I won't be active today. Work is very demanding and you know I was already called out by my boss for using the phone too much.
Mondays and Wednesdays are terrible for me.
But I'll post more around midnight
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On October 16 2014 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
The only other person I'll consider voting for today is geript.
Read my posts. Read my wall. Read what I've brought from geript.
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On October 16 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't understand your point on geript. All you say is his reaction looks "out of context" which doesn't make sense - regardless of his alignment, he thought you were town on D1, then you claimed, so he questioned his read of you. What is out of context about his quote?
Hmm. It seems I derped again.
I thought he posted here instead of in the scum qt. That is what I meant for our of context...
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VE I'd never put this much effort while being scum. Never. I completely understand your desire to lynch me. But disregard my fake claim for a period of time and analyse my play throughout the game. See what you infer from it.
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On October 16 2014 02:10 Damdred wrote:
So just reread what GB said last night and today about sqr.
It does not make much sense to me, he has him as his top scum coming into the day and because of a list post where he calls gb town, he puts him as probably mafia but still would probably vote for him today. Instead of making a case on what is probably his top mafia, he soft pushes him to rayn to see if he can get permission to lynch him or at least get some form of traction and while all of this is going on....make a mega case on me while still seeing if he can get sqr lynched. This just feels so much like mafia trying to find someone to lynch.
This is a complete misread of my posts and I've made my line of thought pretty clear when changing opinions.
Also, there is no sense saying I am searching someone to mislynch or a permission to Lynn. I've being scumreading sqrt since day1. I've being comparing metas throughout the whole game. I could easily jump on oats last day or any other wagon. I decided to push sqrt because he was my top scumread.
You're talking nonsense.
Also, I'm a man. Stop saying "she". I feel my boobs growing everytime you say that.
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On October 16 2014 06:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm done. Requested replacement. Good luck with this shit show.
Game has 70 pages on day2. No way you are the only one trying to figure out the game.
I've clearly said I am busy
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I'm impressed that when I get out of the thread, the game doesn't move on.
Have I asked VE if he would kill sqrt? I don't remember.
VE, would you kill sqrt?
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On October 16 2014 12:42 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2014 12:02 geript wrote:On October 12 2014 06:34 Damdred wrote:
GB is pretty easy to read normally and he does have a pretty prominent town tell that he does in every game that hes town in.
I hate that we are already at this point geript @Damdred. What was this supposed town tell? Has GB done it yet this game? Provide proofs of your read. Sure, GB has a weak case generating ability as town normally. That is he has a really hard time getting across what he thinks and really struggles with being able to articulate what he means as town. As mafia he does it sometimes, but generally hes really firm and does not struggle in getting across the points. He did it when he was talking about DP, which was why I backed off and generally town read GB early on, but for whatever reason it stopped and he really firm read people. Later on GB has went to the mafia firm stance (check fanfic and how he approached me past day 2 as well) and confusion over why the fake claim was a bad idea really made me think back towards fanfic when he showed confusion over the second lynch.
I'm effortless as mafia. Read my fanfic filter again and see if I ever posted like I post here.
I mean, damdy, I've already put you out of the lynch because I have to reevaluate reads on you and geript after Rayn pointed out problems on my read on you. Just calm down and let's try to find a lynch townies are ok to do.
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On October 16 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
i just placeholdered for ritoky. i was really sick yesterday and today im super busy.
Can we kill kush?
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Lol.
He never said he was sick yesterday and now he is saying he will be busy.
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Lol.
I smell bullshit
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On October 15 2014 20:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here is my problem with ritoky.
1) His read evolution on VE and how he explains it here. Does anyone think a townie would "accuse" their townread like ritoky says here? well i don't.
2) His scumreads now. He seems to have me, GB and kushmasta as scumreads. It doesn't make any sense at all for me being mafia with either of those people. It just doesn't. ritoky's thought process shows a complete lack of any logical thinking which i don't think is townie at all. He never answers me regarding the things he claims make me scummy (when those aren't even things -- he is not proving them, and he can't possibly prove them because they are not true). He claims i was acting scummily regarding kushmasta on N1 while what i did and my conclusion is what he claims to be more likely townie..... He claims doing something (in this situation scumreading or rather wanting to lynch lurkers) is scummy if done in a certain time. When i do it (except that i really don't) at some other point -- "well what the hell it's still scummy".
3) ritoky's vote on D1. He says he was following his strong townreads VE and CR onto Oats. That's fine, if it only was just that. But it's not. People who started the Oats lynch were DarthPunk and geript. ritoky doesn't think either of those guys is strong town. He scumreads geript. I don't even know what his read on DP is but it doesn't seem like it was town. Then VE votes. Then I vote. ritoky doesn't think i am town, didn't think i am necessarily town on D1. Then CR votes. Well CR hasn't done much on D1. Based on this the people voting on Oats (colors from ritoky's reads) are (in order of time of their votes):
DarthPunk
geript
VE
raynpelikoneet
Hopeless
CR
Notice that at this time the opposing wagons are geript and GlowingBear!!!!
So ritoky sheeps a vote pushed by his scumreads against lynches on his scumreads and says "i am sheeping my townreads although i am not as confident on the lynch as they are".
!!!!!
This is mafia behaviour. It literally doesn't make any sense at all. It also doesn't make any sense he isn't scumreading geript any more (or maybe he is, but then he scumreading like fucking mostly everyone in the game....)
ritoky is mafia.
##vote: ritoky
Rayn, my thoughts on your case:
1) Objectively, I think it's possible to a townie accuse his townread when he find something odd. I did that a lot. Any townie would do that because they aren't sure of who is town and who is mafia. I did thr with damdred, for instance.
2) Contradiction is not exactly a scum tell and there is a possibility he is not making associations, but just pointing out who he thinks is scum. Maybe he didn't think about a scum team making sense, and honestly, I think he shouldn't. It's unflipped association.
3) This is your strongest argument IMO, but think of it this way: if he is mafia, he could've just placed his vote outside the wagon instead joining it at the very end. So this argument is good but not as strong as it seems.
Maybe as mafia he joined only at the end so it makes it difficult to find mafia inside there.
That said, I just don't think your case is strong, but I believe he is mafia because of passivity. He is not contributing, he is not engaging himself in arguments to find scum, he is not scum hunting, etc.
Rayn, I'll vote sqrt or ritoky today. Maybe geript if you can convince me he is mafia and not only for they damdred meta thing. I derped a lot regarding geript, but his stream of thoughts seems genuine to me.
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You know, nevermind. I have a strong scumread on sqrt and I'm voting him.
I've already give reasons why and there is another one: I find odd that he strongly scumreads CR but votes hopeless based only on math. It's like it was planned to kill DP and make hopeless' claim look bad.
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VOTE SQRT WITH ME
HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS MUCH MORE THAN 1 MAFIA TRAIT.
ALL WE HAVE GOT ON THE OTHER ARE SPECIFIC REASONS BUT NOT AN OVERALL GAMEPLAY
SQRT IS THE MOST SCUMMY IN THE GAME SO PLEASE VOTE FOR HIM
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What does Rayn think of this?
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Ok, I'll sheep you.
But promise you'll read my cases at night, VE
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On October 17 2014 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB you are not reading into my case on ritoky very well but that's for tomorrow..
Maybe. I read and typed my analysis while getting ready to work. I promise I'll re read it.
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I have a bad feeling that he will flip town
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There is still time to vote for sqrt yet hopeless. You should bother.
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EPT
