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On October 14 2014 22:54 kushm4sta wrote:
sorry gb i was out of line. just makes me mad when im trying to keep up with the game and you post page after page of "hmm im the only one here" "im still the only one here" "where is everyone" etc!
Fair enough, kush. I'm just upset I was the only guy active and that was my way to relieve.
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On October 14 2014 13:53 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 13:34 GlowingBear wrote:On October 12 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote:
Because until GB does his town tell that he doesn't realize he does he might be scum or not drunk enough yet Then On October 14 2014 02:32 Damdred wrote:On October 14 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Damdred why did you spend like 4 posts of real time trying to clarify whether or not GB "dodged" when you don't know what your own read on GB is? If it is to clarify Hopeless' intentions or whatever, what is your read on Hopeless? I think I have my read on GB for right now thank you. I spent those posts talking about the dodge because I was asked about it and to clarify my earlier comments, it took that long because of semantics. Read on hopeless is that he seems to be contributing to the thread and giving his thoughts, hes claiming the named blue role that has no powers and nobody is counter claiming him or claiming with him. Its highly likely that he is town. Damdred, day one is over and you haven't told us if I had done my town tell. Moreover, you said you had a read on me but didn't share it with us. 1) Why aren't you sharing it with us? 2) If you have a scum read on me, why weren't you pushing me? 3) if you have a town read on me, why weren't you fighting my wagon? Your filter is mostly focused on me. You've spent most of your game busy with me. But then you follow the wagon that was being built: On October 14 2014 04:17 Damdred wrote:
Geript, why put in that much work on Oats and not vote him? It seems like the only reason that you are voting me is some twisted meta read that is invalidated in the same game that we were playing and the game I posted.
This feels like you are trying to look towny and trying to find a good mislynch to me. Soft pushing oats to see if it picks up traction while hardpushing me for the easy mislynch today
##Vote Geript How did you suddenly read geript as mafia here? Is that how you see him now? I'm sold on Geript being mafia right now, all his points about me (while it could be said are omgus) they do not line up. Rayn picked a few a part pretty good with my thought pattern, and explained it pretty well. And i'm documented in the thread for reading him scum there, and some reasons for it.1) I am not sharing my read with you because I wasn't asked and i was in a little bit of a hurry 2) I haven't been pushing you because im pretty sure you aren't scum presently 3) You seemed to do a pretty decent job defending yourself, your filter was big enough where you shouldn't of been the lynch and there was plenty of sentiment to move away from you. So not sure what I was defending you against. I have been tied up with you in my limited thread time, i should be free more tomorrow
The bolded is basically you saying that it was already explained.
And geript said you could be mafia for that.
Bugs me that you focused on saying you didn't say that instead of commenting on geripts response.
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On October 14 2014 23:12 Damdred wrote:
Obviously I think its bad, I scum read him now. His meta on me is bad, and his response is bad. I really didn't think i have to put that into every single post to satisfy you GB.
Also I said more about geript in my nexxt post so not sure how i'm not saying anything more. It just feels like your trying to nitpick me into being scum gb
What is bad in his response?
This is what I wanted you to say.
I already understand his meta read on you was bad. Yes, it was bad. It was contradictory. But I don't think it's yet a scum slip.
Like: why he decided to go against you instead voting on me?
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Ok, let's have it this way:
Geript is scum.
Who are his partners and why?
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On October 15 2014 00:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is basically never ever going to be mafia after last night.
GB seems frustrated in a townie way in people scumreading him. The only thing against him would be he suddenly fucked off before the lynch when another wagon that was not him formed.
DarthPunk and Hopeless are town, don't be dumb with this GB.
Damdred is town, most likely. I have already made a town case on him.
Chairman Ray is still bit of a question mark so do not totally count him out. He has basically made a case on sqrt and then... well pretty much nothing. We need you to prove you are town CR, there are just too many people lurking the fuck out of the game.
I already told what i think of geript and why. Maybe i'll tonight find the game where he acted similarly. I totally forgot about that one and in case geript is mafia which i assume that would most likely make GlowingBear town.
sqrt's posting is just terrible.
ritoky hasn't said anything rememberable and there is something i am going to check regarding him before the deadline.
kush is just not playing and only talks about unimportant stuff like modkills, spamming etc etc. The only thing he has said on D1 is a townread on GB (or rather -- it wasn't a townread, it was "cases on GB are bad") without explanation. scum!kush cannot force himself to read filters so calling someone who is town town makes sense as he didn't even comment on the cases in ANY way. Then there is the shitty vote on VE which is also not explained in any way.
The problem is there are too much lurkers. There are three people completely lurking and ritoky kinda semi-lurking (i call it lurking when people do not take part into discussion and talk about irrelevant things). They can't all be mafia even if geript is, and atm i do strongly believe geript is mafia. Step up your fucking game townies in that pool. Or at least TRY to play the game. Please.
How did you switch to strong townread VE?
Why geript flipping mafia would make me town?
Regarding oats lynch, I was at work and couldn't do much, but he was one of my strongest scumreads so I was ok with his lynch. I only started doubting when I realised how fast the wagon on him was formed and after noticing the vote count.
How can you affirm both hopeless and DP are town? Don't get me wrong, I'm also reading them as town now, but I find the possibility of having 3 primes very low.
Also, what else made you drastically change your town read on geript to a scumread? Only his meta argument on damdred?
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On October 15 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote:
all game long you bitch about lurkers. it's such a broken record that you are probably scum.
You don't understand kush, town lurkers are destroying the game. I can't read someone as town if he doesn't give me information. It's bizarre the amount of question marks I have in this game solely for lurkage
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On October 15 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 02:23 geript wrote:On October 15 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 15 2014 02:06 geript wrote:On October 15 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 15 2014 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
DP could be - I maintain that nothing he's done is outside his gamut as mafia.
But that's a world I'll start considering much later. Look. Think about it yourself. There is 2 prome claims. You are scum. Would you claim another prime? He could do that but it's unlikely. Thus why to look at hopeless in part. Hopeless was first to claim, risking counterclaim and certain defeat if he's mafia. Unless you have some sort of reasoning to think otherwise? He just got out of a scum game where he was caught. Looked similar to his play here. It's the right play for scum to claim. It gives mafia extra info about setup. Free town cred from the numpties. Etc. Okay I'ma stop you right here. It doesn't give mafia extra info about the setup unless someone counterclaims, at which point it becomes the WRONG move for mafia to make because they lose one of their members. There's no "free town cred from the numpties" if someone counterclaims, and in this setup there's like zero chance of townies not counterclaiming at some point (because setup). There's no situation where mafia's first impulse is to "claim Prime" geript. You're just making things up.
Hmmm not really.
Consider that mafia could have 2 square roots. It means it's setup B or C. They know that.
They also know that there is only one prime or a maximum of two primes if condition (1) happens. So it's easy to claim prime and be safe with it.
I don't know if I was clear here...
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On October 15 2014 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like ALL of the setups include at least one prime - so mafia KNOW FOR A FACT that if they claim Prime, SOMEONE ELSE will ALSO claim Prime and fuck up their day.
Condition (3) can make a game without primes.
Condition (1) can make a game with 2 primes
There is also a base setup with 2 primes and the possibility of having three primes.
I find it very safe to claim prime.
I'm actually getting inclined to believe hopeless fake claimed now.
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I'm parity cop.
We found a mafia.
##Vote: Hopeless
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On October 15 2014 07:16 geript wrote:
Maybe one of VE/Rayn is the third. That night kill makes zero sense.
Who's the second?
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I'm here. Battery is dying.
Damdred, vote hopeless, there can't be another prime in the game. What are you waiting for?
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On October 15 2014 08:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
GB who did you check last night?
I checked Rayn. I thought he was going to die instead of DP.
Why does that matter to you? You had a town read on me and hopeless isn't even playing the game. Why are you hesitating?
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On October 15 2014 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:On October 15 2014 08:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
GB who did you check last night? I checked Rayn. I thought he was going to die instead of DP. Why does that matter to you? You had a town read on me and hopeless isn't even playing the game. Why are you hesitating? wat? i am hopeless.
Oh, I thought it was damdred.
Completely reasonable to check someone you expect to die. If I get a check night 2 I'll know for sure the other person's alignment.
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On October 15 2014 08:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
GB why didnt you check me?
Why would I check you if you were not going to die?
With a flipped check, I could check anyone night2 and get his alignment, including you.
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VE that's totally true.
I rescind my claim.
I was already about to rescind because I've gathered enough reactions from my fake claim and I losing more time debating this will be detrimental to town.
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On October 15 2014 09:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay, now go vote sqrt please.
Gonna read through the reactions and analyse possible scenarios first.
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On October 15 2014 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 09:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
Okay VE, here's where I'm at.
- I KNOW he's lying.
- I think he's town because of 1v1 suicide pact reasons.
I don't give a shit what you say. He did something really REALLY dumb if he's town - something that will cost him his life AND yours depending on the flip. You'd better hope he's mafia.
It wasn't a good play because you suspect me for now on, but I think it was okay to gather reaction.
I mean, if you're mafia and see two townies, one possibly fake claiming, you'll be okay with lynching any or even both *cough cough geript*
As I said, I'm gonna re-read and analyse scenarios
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On October 15 2014 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 09:14 GlowingBear wrote:
VE that's totally true.
I rescind my claim.
I was already about to rescind because I've gathered enough reactions from my fake claim and I losing more time debating this will be detrimental to town. No, that's not how this works. There's no "reaction testing" in a forum game because there are no "reactions" on forums. You claimed cop, and now you're gonna fucking die. Your patner geript can wait.
There is no reason for me to rescind my claim if I was mafia now.
I would've fight your argument and try to mislynch hopeless instead of retracting it.
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On October 15 2014 09:19 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 09:14 GlowingBear wrote:
VE that's totally true.
I rescind my claim.
I was already about to rescind because I've gathered enough reactions from my fake claim and I losing more time debating this will be detrimental to town. Why?
Why what?
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On October 15 2014 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 09:19 GlowingBear wrote:On October 15 2014 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 15 2014 09:14 GlowingBear wrote:
VE that's totally true.
I rescind my claim.
I was already about to rescind because I've gathered enough reactions from my fake claim and I losing more time debating this will be detrimental to town. No, that's not how this works. There's no "reaction testing" in a forum game because there are no "reactions" on forums. You claimed cop, and now you're gonna fucking die. Your patner geript can wait. There is no reason for me to rescind my claim if I was mafia now. I would've fight your argument and try to mislynch hopeless instead of retracting it. There's no reason for you to claim cop if you're town. WIFOM IS FUN!!!!
Reaction testing. Maybe I even could get hopeless to concede if he was mafia.
Anyway, just think about it. I wouldn't rescind if I was mafia. I would've fight you and even manage to mislynch hopeless because his filter is shit.
Or mislynch me and blame me for the worst play of the year as town.
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