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On October 11 2014 06:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Which is why I think your vote is a bus vote.
-Likes OO's tone
-Dislikes that we're policy lynching a lurker
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Votes OO because he's lurking
what part of busting HF's balls did you not understand?
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On October 11 2014 06:04 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 05:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 05:30 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 02:21 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. Semi-brushing aside the RNG to "actually" look at OO. At the time that he self-voted I wouldn't have called it "disturbing". How the hell are you supposed to defend against RNG? You're not, you're supposed to go and scumhunt. This is a load of bullshit, but damdred still twists it into an early suspicion. These are normal observations. Of course self-voting is weird. There's nothing wrong with looking at OO for non RNG stuff. And given that OO actually flipped town, I don't see how Damdred being all suspicious of the guy who flipped scum is an issue. The issue is that he took so long to vote OO, not that he was suspiciopus of OO. get your shit together H1 On October 11 2014 02:21 Hopeless1der wrote:Obiwan correctly points out that OO's reaction is worthless (open spoiler if you are so inclined): On October 07 2014 12:43 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 12:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this. Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though. So what's so important about his reaction? You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important. That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc. That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched. You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing. Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes. OWS is literally wrong here. OO _did_ get lynched. PEople could say "OO wasn't gonna get lynched or whatever" but basically it came down to this: OO got voted, and then he reacted with stuff. Hell, even if you agree with OWS (who, by the way, is scum) then you STILL have to show that damdred agrees with OWS, or that disagreeing is so unreasonable you must be scum. The fact that you personally believe that OO's reaction is null (and it obviously wasn't null, OO was scum and got caught, and part of why he got caught was his scummy reaction) doesn't matter. Self voting because RNG landed on you isnt a weird response. Attempting to call you (BH) scum because the RNG landed on OO would be a weird response. Attempting to call you (BH) scum because you USED RNG is slightly better but not really. In any case, the reasons for calling OO scum should have nothing to do with his response to being RNGed. Damdred pulls up super early to cast suspicion without committing to it for dubious reasoning. Being suspicious of anyone is fine if its for the right reasons. Damdred doesnt have the right reasons to call someone scum here. OWS may have ultimately been wrong, but at the time that was a reasonable thought process because RNG is not sufficient to lynch someone. OO was scummy outside of the RNG, his reaction to the RNG is in fact null. bah this is BS and you know it. Self voting is 100% a weird response to getting RNGed. On the other hand, if you're unfamiliar with RNG why wouldn't it be weird to be suspicious of the idea, or of the person suggesting it?
I would totally try to self vote if I was RNGed. If unfamiliar, yeah pushing back might be reasonable. Except OO was familiar, and laughed it off as a joke and tried to self vote. If the argument is that OO did NOT know what your RNG process was, then your point is much more valid, but his first post was On October 07 2014 02:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Oh shit we're doing an RNG vote? Fuck yes, where's the vote thread?
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Grack what else do you have about me being scum that I can debunk sooner rather than later?
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On October 11 2014 06:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:09 Hopeless1der wrote:
Grack what else do you have about me being scum that I can debunk sooner rather than later? Explain all of your never lynch list
You're not Grack.
Magic.
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On October 11 2014 06:12 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:08 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:04 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 05:47 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 05:30 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 02:21 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. Semi-brushing aside the RNG to "actually" look at OO. At the time that he self-voted I wouldn't have called it "disturbing". How the hell are you supposed to defend against RNG? You're not, you're supposed to go and scumhunt. This is a load of bullshit, but damdred still twists it into an early suspicion. These are normal observations. Of course self-voting is weird. There's nothing wrong with looking at OO for non RNG stuff. And given that OO actually flipped town, I don't see how Damdred being all suspicious of the guy who flipped scum is an issue. The issue is that he took so long to vote OO, not that he was suspiciopus of OO. get your shit together H1 On October 11 2014 02:21 Hopeless1der wrote:Obiwan correctly points out that OO's reaction is worthless (open spoiler if you are so inclined): On October 07 2014 12:43 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 12:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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So what's so important about his reaction?
You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important. That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc. That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched. You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing. Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes. OWS is literally wrong here. OO _did_ get lynched. PEople could say "OO wasn't gonna get lynched or whatever" but basically it came down to this: OO got voted, and then he reacted with stuff. Hell, even if you agree with OWS (who, by the way, is scum) then you STILL have to show that damdred agrees with OWS, or that disagreeing is so unreasonable you must be scum. The fact that you personally believe that OO's reaction is null (and it obviously wasn't null, OO was scum and got caught, and part of why he got caught was his scummy reaction) doesn't matter. Self voting because RNG landed on you isnt a weird response. Attempting to call you (BH) scum because the RNG landed on OO would be a weird response. Attempting to call you (BH) scum because you USED RNG is slightly better but not really. In any case, the reasons for calling OO scum should have nothing to do with his response to being RNGed. Damdred pulls up super early to cast suspicion without committing to it for dubious reasoning. Being suspicious of anyone is fine if its for the right reasons. Damdred doesnt have the right reasons to call someone scum here. OWS may have ultimately been wrong, but at the time that was a reasonable thought process because RNG is not sufficient to lynch someone. OO was scummy outside of the RNG, his reaction to the RNG is in fact null. bah this is BS and you know it. Self voting is 100% a weird response to getting RNGed. On the other hand, if you're unfamiliar with RNG why wouldn't it be weird to be suspicious of the idea, or of the person suggesting it? I would totally try to self vote if I was RNGed. If unfamiliar, yeah pushing back might be reasonable. Except OO was familiar, and laughed it off as a joke and tried to self vote. If the argument is that OO did NOT know what your RNG process was, then your point is much more valid, but his first post was On October 07 2014 02:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Oh shit we're doing an RNG vote? Fuck yes, where's the vote thread? Right, then he voted himself, which is really weird imo
Agree to disagree. If that's really your opinion then damdred is going to be less scummy to you, not much I can do about it.
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On October 11 2014 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
No but I'm the main person pushing your lynch and in your never lynch list.
But I did explain why you're town. And it was "Magic" I gave a real answer that had reasons and wasnt retarded and everything. But noooo hopeless is full of unexplained bullshit and excuses.
Battraps legit
BH - Actually playing the game,
grack - un cc'd vig claim
palmar - least strong read but:
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On October 08 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 23:58 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 23:56 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2014 23:14 KelsierSC wrote:On October 07 2014 23:00 Palmar wrote:On October 07 2014 09:30 StorrZerg wrote:
ill make a case on someone tonight or tomorrow morning i swear its going to be good
#prepthebadwagons Not to mention, another scumread of his is probably town. The way this is worded makes it quite likely StorrZerg is town. The assertiveness that his yet-nonexistent case is something to be excited about is far more likely to be from a townie than from mafia. So there's that. I have only ever watched storrzerg on Mafia Allstars and I think in general he likes to kind of sit back and wait D1 as both alignments. Also Storrzerg seems confident and assertive as both mafia and town so not sure if I like this as a reason to call storr town. I think he is, just not sure I believe this read. ------- reasoning --------> you Well the reason you give for storr being town, isn't actually a good reason because he plays that way as mafia and town. why is that bad reasoning? Because you're thinking what and I'm thinking how. But it's ok, I don't particularly care whether you believe me or not unless Storr is in some danger of being lynched.
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On October 08 2014 07:49 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar I want you to read that HF/me/Obi exchange and actually play the game. If Marv were here would you tell him he should be able to town read you by now? No you would not. To be perfectly fair, a) he would be able to. b) even if he wouldn't admit it, I'd still shove it down his throat. I sorta know how he reads me so well, and I know I'm basically being the stereotype of that this game.
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On October 11 2014 06:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Speaking of slam… at the start of the game he makes reasonable posts and looks like he's trying to solve the game so everybody town reads him. Later he does nothing but post gifs and starts telling people to call him scummy? Then he makes a bunch of posts about how he's flying under the radar? After that he tells everybody that we don't know how to scum hunt?
Perhaps he may be trying to tell us something...
He's trying to Chupazi rule you. But you Hijoled him so he can't Kussplain himself sson.
or sometihng like that..
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On October 11 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:30 Grackaroni wrote:
I have absolutely no idea how to read him either but it actually looks like he may be mafia and wants us to catch him or something. I could see that, I guess, but I won't pretend to understand his motivations. I'm sure you have plans for your bullet tonight, but how would you feel about shooting Slam? I feel like inevitably we'll have to lynch him anyways.
tbh I'm hoping hes a poisoner target, assuming there is one.
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On October 11 2014 06:36 batsnacks wrote:wait why what?
You ninjavoted me more or less.
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On October 11 2014 06:41 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:36 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes, but why batsnacks? wait why what? You ninjavoted me more or less. Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 02:16 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 02:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote:On October 08 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan's posting is not similar to last game where he was scum. If I unvote him that will probably be why.
Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier. what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link). Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon? I think hopeless is by far the scummiest person in the game and the most likely to flip mafia. I just feel like voting damdred right now. I think he might be mafia, but I couldn't convince anyone he is so I haven't said anything. Besides we have like 10 hours.
Between which time I posted a case on damdred, the person you also want to lynch. Do you have any comments or questions to pursue instead of being a dick all over again?
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On October 11 2014 06:44 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:43 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:41 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:36 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes, but why batsnacks? wait why what? You ninjavoted me more or less. On October 11 2014 02:16 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 02:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote:On October 08 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan's posting is not similar to last game where he was scum. If I unvote him that will probably be why.
Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier. what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link). Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon? I think hopeless is by far the scummiest person in the game and the most likely to flip mafia. I just feel like voting damdred right now. I think he might be mafia, but I couldn't convince anyone he is so I haven't said anything. Besides we have like 10 hours. Between which time I posted a case on damdred, the person you also want to lynch. Do you have any comments or questions to pursue instead of being a dick all over again? I never said I wanted to lynch damdred. I said I thought he might be mafia and I said I felt like voting him. Now I don't.
Okay...for future reference: Votes are for lynching people you think are mafia. Okay? Is that clear or do you need a diagram?
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On October 11 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:
what if I discover he's an amazing lynch? then I'd have to unvote OWS. We can't be having that I promise there's some good stuff to read in there! There was an RNG and it hit OWS! You don't have to read it if you don't want to but I'd like your opinion because I'm flip flopping.
He knows about the RNG, he even verified I did it correctly.
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On October 11 2014 06:47 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:46 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:44 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 06:43 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:41 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:36 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 06:34 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes, but why batsnacks? wait why what? You ninjavoted me more or less. On October 11 2014 02:16 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 02:07 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 02:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 11 2014 01:56 Blazinghand wrote:On October 08 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan's posting is not similar to last game where he was scum. If I unvote him that will probably be why.
Could you expand on this a bit? You were once an OWS voter but now you've moved off, and I'd like to know a bit more about what about OWS' posting makes you think he's not scum I think he's town because of how he defended himself n1. Seemed legit. I agree that he's done scummy stuff, stuff you and others have brought up... That's why I didn't say anything when you said "you'll have to do better than that bats" or something earlier. what are your thoughts on Hopeless? Earlier he was on your "would lynch" list (link), but then you complained about spending all day talking about him (link) even though you admit he bailed after he became a topic (link). Given all this, why the vote on Damdred? It seems to me that you should be eager to vote hopeless, who is actually a legit wagon. And if you're not, why aren't you yelling at people to get on the Damdred wagon? I think hopeless is by far the scummiest person in the game and the most likely to flip mafia. I just feel like voting damdred right now. I think he might be mafia, but I couldn't convince anyone he is so I haven't said anything. Besides we have like 10 hours. Between which time I posted a case on damdred, the person you also want to lynch. Do you have any comments or questions to pursue instead of being a dick all over again? I never said I wanted to lynch damdred. I said I thought he might be mafia and I said I felt like voting him. Now I don't. Okay...for future reference: Votes are for lynching people you think are mafia. Okay? Is that clear or do you need a diagram? I'll take a diagram since you're offering.
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On October 11 2014 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:53 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:On October 11 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:
what if I discover he's an amazing lynch? then I'd have to unvote OWS. We can't be having that I promise there's some good stuff to read in there! There was an RNG and it hit OWS! You don't have to read it if you don't want to but I'd like your opinion because I'm flip flopping. He knows about the RNG, he even verified I did it correctly. all I verified is that you didn't game it with one of your posts. clearly you didn't do rng correctly because you didn't vote for your rng target.
On October 11 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
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On October 11 2014 06:58 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 06:56 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 06:53 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:On October 11 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:
what if I discover he's an amazing lynch? then I'd have to unvote OWS. We can't be having that I promise there's some good stuff to read in there! There was an RNG and it hit OWS! You don't have to read it if you don't want to but I'd like your opinion because I'm flip flopping. He knows about the RNG, he even verified I did it correctly. all I verified is that you didn't game it with one of your posts. clearly you didn't do rng correctly because you didn't vote for your rng target. On October 11 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi ? don't be coy with me, you poopy-head. try bullshit liek that again and I'll vote you in principle.
I'm sorry. I didn't think the rules were so strict after D1.
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On October 11 2014 07:02 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 07:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:58 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 06:56 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:55 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 06:53 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote:On October 11 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:
what if I discover he's an amazing lynch? then I'd have to unvote OWS. We can't be having that I promise there's some good stuff to read in there! There was an RNG and it hit OWS! You don't have to read it if you don't want to but I'd like your opinion because I'm flip flopping. He knows about the RNG, he even verified I did it correctly. all I verified is that you didn't game it with one of your posts. clearly you didn't do rng correctly because you didn't vote for your rng target. On October 11 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi ? don't be coy with me, you poopy-head. On October 11 2014 02:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Damdred try bullshit liek that again and I'll vote you in principle. I'm sorry. I didn't think the rules were so strict after D1. what rules? the point of RNG is that you rng your vote. when I said "you didn't vote for your rng target" your objection can't be "look, here's me voting for him" and leave out the fact that you unvoted him literally an hour later. Like, look at that post of yours that's just a question mark. Really dude? really? You think you've fulfilled the premise of RNG? or are you pretending to not understand the fact that I'm referring to where your vote is now?
Dude it was a joke. holy shit.
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HF how do you know you were shot?
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