I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly?

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:33 GMT

#1695

On September 29 2014 09:31 batsnacks wrote:
I can't remember the last time I paid attention to one of Superbia's posts.

If you're town you probably should pay attention to my posts.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:34 GMT

#1696

On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:

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palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia)

palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD

There are a lot of players right now who aren't fucking caring about EoD. Why palmar over sky or haru?

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:35 GMT

#1698

I'm going to read palmar's filter again rq. Keep posting.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:47 GMT

#1727

On September 29 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
We've had 36 hours to discuss palmar, who I've made about 20 posts on and nobody said shit. Suddenly it's massive counter wagon onto palmar with 15 minutes to go. Fuck you guys.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:49 GMT

#1730

Just read his filter and I can see where the read is coming from, but fuck off. This is not indicative enough to justify a sudden switch. We're not even giving him a chance to defend himself. We kill sky here.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:51 GMT

#1736

On September 29 2014 09:50 StorrZerg wrote:

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why are you complaining about this so much? Seems like all your posts are complaints in the past hour. No discussion, no reason as to why we should stay sky, or why palmar is bad its just "waaaaahhhhh"

I've given my entire read on sky already and he has ragequit. Literally has given no more information. I've also given my read on Palmar dude, it's mostly a gut-read but whatever.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:53 GMT

#1739

Like you literally barge into the thread and within 20 minutes you want Palmar to get lynched. I've just reread his filter and also quickly skimmed his prev game's d2 filter. I'm still not convinced. I don't know what the fuck you're expecting.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 00:55 GMT

#1747

On September 29 2014 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:

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You guys are retards.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 01:00 GMT

#1764

Fuck you guys.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 23:05 GMT

#1904

I rescind my entire townlist. Bats is my only town at the moment. I can't fucking believe Killing was the actual seer, I thought he was either baiting a CC as mafia or was WIFOMing mafia.

My townread on Storr was actually pretty straightforward. As mafia he hangs back and is happy to let shit happen. When he's mafia it's really fucking obvious that he doesn't care what happens, so he's very reactive. I was ready to call him scum at the end of d2 because he was basically camping all day (he afked a lot last game, when he was scum, as well). He did come back at the end of the day and was pretty proactive, but the push last night was so fucking bad that my scum-read on Storr may be invalid (I'm not confident in it at this point in time). Hence he's off my townlist (currently null leaning town).

Let's do some vote-gymnastics:
SkyDragon: Justanothertownie, Superbia, FecalFeast
Killing: HaruRH
justanothertownie: Killing, SkyDragon
HaruRH: Palmar
Palmar: Storr, ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks, HolyFlare

I think there is at least 1 scum (quite possibly 2) on the Palmar wagon yesterday, regardless of Sky's alignment:

If Sky is mafia: it is in favor of scum to postpone a scum-lynch for at least another day. I don't think they'll likely commit 2 to a counter wagon here, but there's a slight possibility. At the moment I'll live in the world where 1 joins the wagon if sky is scum.
If Sky is town: it is also in favor of scum to switch to another wagon here, Sky would come into d3 as a huge fucking question mark and would attract a lot of attention from any town, which mafia can easily latch on to. I think it is more likely that 2 mafia are on this wagon if sky is town.

I think we need to do one of two things today:
- Kill Sky, which gives us some information, and it's also pretty likely he's scum.
- We kill one of the people on the Sky wagon. Assuming >1/2 chance of Sky flipping scum, we have a <1/2 chance of hitting scum on any of the three, if we lynch blindly. My personal preference would be to kill HF > Obi > Storr, based on how EoD2 went down:
HF's last second switch looked really fucking scummy in my opinion, idc about the WIFOM "mafia would never do that". He seemed set on keeping his vote on Sky, and people were pressuring with "you'll look really scummy if sky flips town" (not actual quote). Then he just suddenly switches. Yeah, there's a chance that it HF was just confused or whatever, but it doesn't really add up to his style of play at all this game.
Obi seemed to believe in the Palmar lynch and was excited to do it, he felt genuine in his belief that Palmar was scum but it might just be good scum play. Honestly have no clear read on Obi's play EoD2 besides that.
Storr came in last moment with some of the shittiest arguments ever (e.g. the "English is not my first language" read). If he was mafia and he was fake-afk, he would've come with way better arguments because he would've been more prepared. I think Storr was actually (and ironically) the most genuine on Palmar.

My current mafia team is: Sky, HF and the last member someone in the remaining group (Haru > JAT > FF > Obi > Storr).

I think I'd like to kill Sky today, but wouldn't mind going for the second option as well.

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One day town is going to listen to me during d2 and not lynch Palmar that day.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 23:10 GMT

#1905

On September 30 2014 07:45 StorrZerg wrote:
Anyone care to comment on haru

May very well be scum, but I have no good read on her so I'd prefer to lynch someone else today. Also I don't think we get any good information if she flips town.

Superbia

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September 29 2014 23:14 GMT

#1907

On September 30 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
What kind of towny argues with the person that palmar was so towny omg why did you vote him fuck you hf when the alternative was himself? The answer is that no towny does that.

What? When did that happen?

Superbia

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September 29 2014 23:20 GMT

#1908

Posted 3 1/2 hours before EoD2:

On September 29 2014 06:32 SkyDragon wrote:
Being lynched will actually be a relief, to be honest. I'm actually going to bed now because I have no faith in the Town so don't care which way it goes.

If I've learned anything from this game, it's that I know exactly whose readings to ignore in the future (Provided they end the game as confirmed Town). If they're Mafia, I'll be commending them for the stress they put me through.

Posted at the beginning of d3:

On September 29 2014 22:40 SkyDragon wrote:
HF, seriously - Stfu. Most of you don't have any clue what the hell you're doing, so just stfu. Especially those morons that lynched Palmar since he was the most Town out of all of us. Hell, I refused to change my vote to him to save myself so that says everything. Either Mafia is driving vote trains to take out those who are active and analysing stuff correctly or Town should all be lynched because nothing is working as it is.

When I get home, I'm going to analyse some things.

Keep in mind that the Palmar train didn't take off until 1 hour before EoD2. You want to explain this, sky?