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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 20:28 GMT
#843
Can someone talk to me about why GB is scum?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 20:48 GMT
#846
On another note I have to leave in 2 hours so I won't be around for EoD.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:05 GMT
#862
GlowingBear - I don't fucking know. I keep rereading your filter and I keep switching between leaning town and leaning scum. Why the fuck did you support the push on me but never elaborated on it? I feel you're all over the place but I have no idea how to read it.

FecalFeast - GB called you out for your "confident/apologetic" excuse, but you never actually responded to it (afaik). Reading back I might've actually misread the context due to how filters worked, so the point I made about that is moot. I'm not going to back off from "resistance", because said "resistance" was misreading what I was saying, intentional or not. The point that you're passive as fuck still stays. I don't think you're trying to solve the game, you're just repeating what other people have been saying. That being said, I don't fucking know at this point in time. I hope someone points out some obvious slip before I go to sleep because I'm too fucking tired to find new shit to pursue at this point.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:06 GMT
#864
On September 27 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
I want to give sky another day. Would lynch Superbia because of everything HF said, but I'm keeping my vote on GB for now.


Are you even up to date with this?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:09 GMT
#867
On September 27 2014 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 05:25 Superbia wrote:
All right, I've read JAT's filter and he's actually a big fucking question mark to me at the moment and I don't like it. He seems somewhat town and I find myself agreeing with most of his "reads" (i.e. Storr town, Sky scummy), but idk, it all feels very vanilla. It also feels like he has done nothing really proactive yet, and he even says
I am also a superactive player but it is really hard to post/get something going this game for some reason.
which feels like fucking bullshit to me. I don't know if this has to do with his travel or what, but I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a wagon on him tomorrow. He's either lazy town or scum.

So essentially you are reading me scum because you are familiar with my more active town meta. Maybe you should try to read my only scumgame then - inactivity is no scum trait of mine. Which makes the meta read invalid. It just means that I don't have as much time on my hands right now regardless of alignment.


Whatever, I'll revisit you tomorrow.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:10 GMT
#869
Storr do you think Fecal is a hit or a miss at this point?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:14 GMT
#873
On September 27 2014 07:10 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 07:06 Superbia wrote:
On September 27 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
I want to give sky another day. Would lynch Superbia because of everything HF said, but I'm keeping my vote on GB for now.


Are you even up to date with this?


If you had chosen to not post instead you would have produced the same amount of content.


I'm actually just disappointed at this point. I put so much energy into getting people to read what I was posting the right way and people are still misreading me as scum and not taking my Fecal push seriously. If you still feel the same way about this all after reading everything then you're either donkey town or scum. I'm done with the situation.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:43 GMT
#883
On September 27 2014 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think skydragon is where my vote will stay. I don't have much else to say for now as multiple people have covered why Sky is a really good target right now.



Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 07:05 Superbia wrote:
GlowingBear - I don't fucking know. I keep rereading your filter and I keep switching between leaning town and leaning scum. Why the fuck did you support the push on me but never elaborated on it? I feel you're all over the place but I have no idea how to read it.

FecalFeast - GB called you out for your "confident/apologetic" excuse, but you never actually responded to it (afaik). Reading back I might've actually misread the context due to how filters worked, so the point I made about that is moot. I'm not going to back off from "resistance", because said "resistance" was misreading what I was saying, intentional or not. The point that you're passive as fuck still stays. I don't think you're trying to solve the game, you're just repeating what other people have been saying. That being said, I don't fucking know at this point in time. I hope someone points out some obvious slip before I go to sleep because I'm too fucking tired to find new shit to pursue at this point.


I responded, though it wasn't as serious a response as you're probably looking for.
If this is why you dislike me you are actually looking really scummy to me. I am playing passive by posting my thoughts and not having OMG THIS PERSON IS SCUM THEY DIE NOW reactions to the slightest scummy posts? Okay. I am being scummy by posting things that have already been said, when half this game is spent reading one person's posts out of context? Okay.

I'm not buying it and really don't think you're being productive with this push.


Let me know if I'm misreading you here. You admit to being scummy by sheeping, but it doesn't matter because I am reading your posts out of context?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:47 GMT
#886
That's something I can never verify. Your defense is that it's all your sheeping is just a coincidence?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:52 GMT
#889
Hoping to get an easy scum-tell.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 22:53 GMT
#890
Storr, what do you think about Fecal? I really want a second opinion at this point in time. I misread him previous game as well, and this situation is looking somewhat similar.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 23:09 GMT
#898
I'm keeping my vote on Fecal, I hope other people will be convinced in the next 2 hours, but I sincerely doubt it. I think we have the highest chance of hitting scum here, I've given my reasons (one of them was bad, but whatever).

I think the current wagons are all right, I'm not sure about GB. I think Sky should be given a chance tomorrow, as bats has said. It's unfortunate that hopeless is afk, as I hate lynching afkers. That being said, I think hopeless is the most likely hit out of the current wagons, followed by sky.

I'm off to sleep for now.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 23:15 GMT
#904
Wait was that a genuine slip?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 26 2014 23:17 GMT
#905
Eh, rest of town can handle it. I really need to be off now.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 28 2014 03:13 GMT
#1350
This day fucking hurt to read, especially having to do it in one go.

Holyflare - I don't think the game would even progress without him. Town until there's a check or a scumslip.

Killing - Hard claims seer with a fake red, but later switches it to a double green check (one of which is conveniently dead). Like what the fuck are you even doing here? No cop would out here since you're giving town virtually nothing. Feels like scum trying to test the waters and see if they can bait out a counterclaim and get away with it. Doesn't help that he just literally ragequits the game right after, which scum loves to do. If it wasn't for the fact that we only have 1 PR I would lynch him right now, as it stands I don't even want to take the slightest risk when it comes to possibly lynching cop. That being said, I don't really believe it.

batsnacks - If there was a third party role, this would be the guy. He's playing the game upside down or something. Scumreads 2/3 of my town and townreads my current scum. Shit like this also stands out:
Palmar doesn't get mad like this. Town Palmar would have afked like he said he would. He's mafia. Go vote him Killing.

You played last game, Palmar stepped it up big time during d2. This read makes no fucking sense, just by reading Palmar's last game you should know this (specifically his d2 play). And then there is post #1132. Why don't you just admit that you soft claimed? You can't start the day off like that and expect people not to think you're soft claiming. It would've been fine in my eyes if you just backed off, but instead you make that overly defensive post. It just doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. Decently sure bats is scum, but I actually don't like a scumteam with both killing and bats, their interaction was too close, if that makes sense. I feel like we'll only hit 1 between the 2. Vote doesn't go on him because of the slightest possibility of Killing actually being cop.

Palmar - Actually really like Palmar's d2 and I'm not sure why so many people are giving him shit. He's straight to the point and no bullshit. It really seems like he is trying to defuse the clowning around soft claiming for an hour and straight up filter the information. It also helps that this made it way easier for me to read parts of d2. Liking Palmar as town.

Fecalfeast - Stepped up his d2 play in my eyes. He's saying relevant shit and is active with regards to relevant subjects (I also have to admit that I liked the jokes about sheeping). Get the feeling this guy might be town but I want to wait a little before I put him in my towncircle. He's definitely not a lynch for now.

justanothertownie - His posts feel a lot less vanilla-town this day and I like it. Didn't even have to visit the filter to notice his posts! Him pinging out killing also let to the weak cop claim, so if killing flips scum JAT is pretty much confirmed town. Leaving him null for now. Also not a lynch for now.

Will elaborate on other people who stand out (notably Sky at this point) come tomorrow, after I've had some sleep. Also we really need to resolve the Killing claim because my two primary scumreads are ironically the entire cop circle thing. I don't know if cop should counterclaim at this point though. I would rather take a bigger chance on a mislynch and for cop to have a possible red check on d3 at this point, followed by a double (and with slight possibility even triple) hit. I either scumread in the Sky/Obi/Haru group tomorrow, or new posts cause me to re-evaluate, or I'm completely clueless where to put my vote.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 28 2014 03:14 GMT
#1351
Will be back soon to interact a little, really fucking tired.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 28 2014 03:29 GMT
#1352
Anyone around?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 28 2014 03:33 GMT
#1354
I'd just roll a d3 and pick one of the 3 I haven't read today yet. We only have 1 PR and said PR can straight up win us the game.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 28 2014 03:37 GMT
#1355
I'm falling asleep here so I'm just going to do that. Will be around tomorrow.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 28 2014 18:43 GMT
#1445
All right I'm around and will pretty much be (semi-)around until EoD.

JAT, I was talking about vanilla posts, not vanilla town posts. Vanilla posts are posts with no real flavor, like you don't give a shit about the game. I got that feeling from you d1, not d2.

Palmar, I love to live in a world where the scumteam is sky/obi/haru, and I actually don't think it's that unlikely (see below). I also don't think my read is that godlike yet (I'm not willing to ride or die with you like I was during the previous game), so don't expect to be on my townlist for the rest of the game. That being said, this half of the day gave you even more townpoints (I admit, complimenting my filter played a part in these townpoints).



Now, with that being said, let's solve this game.

Skydragon - I really dislike how sky seems to play on the whole "from a different site" quite a bit (i.e. too much). I feel like he's playing the "I am the poor excluded guest" card to get by the days. This specifically stood out to me today:
On September 28 2014 18:09 SkyDragon wrote:
You guys are the worst group of people I've ever played with, hands down. You can all pat yourselves on the back when I'm confirmed Villager.


He's done this before (#513, and to a lesser extend #1376), and it's always when there is some pressure coming his way. I feel like this may very well be a scum shield (indirect appeal to emotion through "poor excluded guest" card). Now let's take a look at #1386. What's the mindset behind this post? We're definitely not lynching Killing today unless someone counterclaims. So why do you feel like like you need to verify Killing's claim in such an extensive manner when it is utterly irrelevant at this point? Here's what I'm getting at: it doesn't seem like Sky wants to achieve anything today except look townie/not get lynched. I think he's scum.


ObiWanShinobi - Obi seems very non-committed with his play and I don't like it. Here's the thing, I feel like his mindset may very well be town, but he's just not trying or something. Why are you not trying? You seem to be active enough to be present during large portions of the game, but why are you not pushing an agenda? We get shit like this:

On September 28 2014 23:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sup.

You too. Who should we lynch today and why?


I'm starting to think about Haru.

I don't really know where he stands on anything now that Killing claimed Seer, and I can't remember anything he has posted except the fact that he dropped Killing from his scumlist for no reason.


Don't get me wrong, I like the read (as in, the person you're considering), but where is the follow up? What do you want to do today? I don't know about obi, I think he may very well be scum, but I don't have that good of a read on him at the moment. Either lazy town or scum. Sky is a better lynch.


HaruRH - Is haru even playing at this point in time? In all seriousness, does anyone know if he/she is still at the LoL tournament? I don't like to lynch lurkers, but at this point, what the fuck. Haru started d2 off pretty strong with some vote logic which wasn't too bad and followed it up with why a killing lynch isn't bad. Here's the thing, you haven't done anything else this game, and your killing lynch has fallen completely apart (him claiming cop doesn't work in your favor, but also doesn't necessarily say anything about your alignment). You've tunneled on the person who eventually claims cop and you have done nothing else. It doesn't help that your push was at the beginning of the day, which means that anything can still happen (excellent time to try to get some free townpoints). As with Obi, I don't have a hard read on Haru at the moment. Either lazy donkey town or scum. Sky is a better lynch.


Both Obi and Haru are excellent wagons for d3 at this rate. If they don't step up their game, I will lynch them. Sky is a pretty good lynch for today.

##Vote: Skydragon
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