EPTWhat do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue.
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What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue. | ||
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On September 25 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote: This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. so you have no opinion of your partner and he hasnt' done anything in thread or QT and you think it's bad of me to think you and Oats could be the mafia pair? | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote: I think DP is pretty scummy, oats and I were talking about it this morning a bit there are a few things that concern me about his postings a bit. On September 25 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote: This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. @Yam/Hapa/VE/Prome Does these statements jive with you at all? Like these really bug me together. By that I mean that MM1 hasn't said a bunch in our QT, but there've been a few new points he's made there that that I don't think he's made in the thread + Show Spoiler + For example, MM1 brought up that VE has been wrong about MM1's alignment when VE is town most of the time | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:21 Damdred wrote: You are taking what I said out of context. Obviously because we've talked it must be a ton right? It could be a little or it could be a lot. As of now oats activity in the thread matches activity in the qt. A bit less in the qt probably. And no I do not agree with reading myself as scum based on a faulty associative read that is not proven. What you say doesn't jive with you is just you painting null things as scummy. I don't think I'm taking anything out of context. I find it odd that you have no read of him. I find it especially odd that you have no read on him considering that you and he seem to be on the same page now and were on the same page this morning. By this I mean, Hapa has a townread on Abuse; I think it's shitty, but to some extent I can understand it because I'm confirmed town to myself and that skews my view of how I perceive MM1. I think MM1 has a similar reasoning for his read on him. I think Yam and Prome have similar reasons for reading each other. I specifically find it odd that neither of you seem to have any opinion on each other when most other players seem to have that perspective. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:26 geript wrote: I don't think I'm taking anything out of context. I find it odd that you have no read of him. I find it especially odd that you have no read on him considering that you and he seem to be on the same page now and were on the same page this morning. By this I mean, Hapa has a townread on Abuse; I think it's shitty, but to some extent I can understand it because I'm confirmed town to myself and that skews my view of how I perceive MM1. I think MM1 has a similar reasoning for his read on me. I think Yam and Prome have similar reasons for reading each other that way. IIRC DP seems reasonably ok with Vayn. I specifically find it odd that neither of you seem to have any opinion on each other when most other players seem to have that perspective. I usually don't quote myself, but I really think this point is important. Most players seem to have the perspective of: I know I'm town. I'm on a similar-ish page with my partner. Therefore I think my partner is town. Yet while Damdred and Oats are pushing similar agendas on who they want to lynch at various points, neither have out right stated an opinion on each other and specifically Damdred has no opinion of Oats. | ||
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On September 25 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote: This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. So no when you're pressured you assume he's town but you have no opinions on him still? | ||
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We also really need to start consolidating on one lynch. ##unvote ##vote Damdred I could maybe lynch VE. If we have to settle CR or Abuse aren't bad as lurker policy lynches. I think the mafia pair is Oats/Damdred though. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:53 Hapahauli wrote: We're still lynching VE today. I havent' seen a single person disagree with my case. Look at Damdred specifically what I posted. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I think damdred is a better lynch honestly. If he flips red then oats is probably mafia. If ve flips red then we arent gonna lynch cr Incorrect if VE flips red and CR doesn't martyr himself we 100% lynch the pair. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:53 Hapahauli wrote: We're still lynching VE today. I havent' seen a single person disagree with my case. Where'd you go? | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:01 Damdred wrote: This push on me feels so scummy right now lol. You guys do not even have a case on me So you're mad that I have a townread on most other teams. Please whine more. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote: I did and it's an interesting observation, but that's about it. It's plausible to talk with a null read about scum-reads. The QT is there... it's hard to ignore it unless you're super suspicious of your partner. Hell being on the same page isn't necessarily a bad thing. It would be one thing if he thought Oats was mafia. Oats null? I'm very unconvinced by the argument. At the very least, it's not stronger than the one on VE. I disagree. The odds of VE/CR being a mafia/mafia pair is reasonably low. We both agree on that. Where's the double mafia pair then Hapa? | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:08 geript wrote: Plus, I think the cost of being wrong on VE is exceptionally high. Fixed | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:07 Hapahauli wrote: Why care about the mafia pair? I care about my mafia reads. VE is by far my strongest. I have a good case on him, apparently everyone thinks I have a good case on him, so lets lynch him. As for the mafia pair, I don't know. I'm re-reading. If I have an opinion worth posting, I'll post it. Yah well, you're going to have to convince me of a pair because I don't trust you fully and I think your read can be wrong and the implications of having a bad read there are exceptionally detrimental. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:16 Grackaroni wrote: I would actually be willing to lynch VE despite what I said at the start of the day. I'm not happy though that Oats wouldn't make an effort to talk to me. Then let's lynch Oats or Damdred. If VE flips town and if CR doesn't martyr, then town is in a really shitty position. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote: You are making statements about risk that do not make sense. How is it a "shitty" position, as opposed to a slightly less optimal one? Because then we're almost priced into lynching CR because he's likely poisoner or arsonist. | ||
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