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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 17 2014 22:10 GMT
#2838
Thanks P. I hope you're not looking for an easy pocket just because I'm new.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 17 2014 22:27 GMT
#2857
I would like an explanation from geript on why he claimed PGO and then instantly backed off. I only want to hear an explanation from geript.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 17 2014 22:30 GMT
#2859
On September 18 2014 07:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
Geript has given an explanation. Go look at his filter.


I want to know if this is his final explanation.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 17 2014 22:34 GMT
#2864
On September 18 2014 07:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On September 18 2014 07:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
Geript has given an explanation. Go look at his filter.


I want to know if this is his final explanation.

I want to know why someone who's played the game longer than me has a shorter filter than me?


Should probably take the time to read said short filter then. Shouldn't take that long. Are you sticking to the original explanation for your fake-claim: That you were buying time?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 17 2014 22:43 GMT
#2870
On September 18 2014 07:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 07:34 Superbia wrote:
On September 18 2014 07:32 geript wrote:
On September 18 2014 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On September 18 2014 07:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
Geript has given an explanation. Go look at his filter.


I want to know if this is his final explanation.

I want to know why someone who's played the game longer than me has a shorter filter than me?


Should probably take the time to read said short filter then. Shouldn't take that long. Are you sticking to the original explanation for your fake-claim: That you were buying time?

I have. It's worthless. Perhaps you should read my explanation for the claim before I wipe the floor with your ass.


Of course it's worthless, but the explanation is inside the worthless filter, is it not? What's the fucking point then?

For some reason missed this:

On September 18 2014 01:59 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 01:56 Koshi wrote:
On September 18 2014 01:56 geript wrote:
On September 18 2014 01:53 Koshi wrote:
yeah geript is scum. Fuck that shit.

rayn is not so anti-town that he says PGO should claim when he is PGO.

Wrong Koshi. I'm not mafia. Neither was Rayn.

rayn wouldn't say my plan was good as PGO.

So I figured if I claim PGO the real PGO would claim or people would never give me a gun. Sue me. I have reading to catch up on.


Which makes sense.

This:

On September 18 2014 02:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 02:25 Damdred wrote:
Why did you claim just so you could catch up geript?

Because the last time I joined late, it took me idk 3-4 days to read the whole thread and catchup while also fighting off my own lynch.


Made it seem like it was the primary reason. I misread your explanation, but don't get sassy with me.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 17 2014 22:54 GMT
#2889
On September 18 2014 07:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2014 07:48 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 18 2014 07:33 geript wrote:
On September 18 2014 07:32 IAmRobik wrote:
I still want geript to answer my timeline question.

Geez. Get all pissy then. Rayn. Palmer. VE. Koshi. Something like that. I don't get why that's important at all.

So you read Rayn's posts and still claimed PGO knowing that he claimed not to be PGO. Your story isn't lining up. Unless you didn't read Rayn's post about it, then you would have had to read something around pg 35-45 when it was being discussed. If you read that, then that's a random thing to jump in and read and then for you to decide randomly to claim that is just dafuq are you doing homeboy

I didn't bother reading what he had or hadn't claimed. I was looking for who he thought was scum and why. Things that are you know actually pertinent.


Why is this important to you?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 01:57 GMT
#3264
All right, I'm here.

I read the push on me earlier today and was hoping more people would join in so I could get some more easy reads off it.

Let's start off with why pressuring me is good, but actually wanting to lynch me is scummy:

- I was basically not present during d1.
- My two during n1 were partially (but genuinely) erroneous.

As a result, there is no way that any VT will have a hard read on me. I have simply done too little. As a result, reading me somewhat or possibly scum/town is good. Having a hard read on me either way is most likely bad.

These three people have read me hard-scum (no one has read me hard-town):
- BloodyC0bbler (#2954)
- Chairman Ray (#2978)
- geript (#3091)

I think that there is at least 1 mafia between these three.

Let's start off with the most townie out of the three, Chairman Ray. CR's read on me is based on my play during the newbie's game in which I participated (LVIII, Disney Princess Mafia) and concludes that my participation factor is way off! Congratulations, CR, you are correct! I haven't had as much time as I would've liked. Read into this however you like. You get townpoints for checking out my (albeit short) history to analyze my playstyle, spend them well! I also like his recent contemplation on geript, this also makes geript seem more scum to me (overarching assumption + PoE). Would not like to lynch CR (right now)!

Moving on to BloodyC0bbler. Oh, BC... Your push on me makes little sense given the context. I have said before I voted on kush how I was going to vote d1. From your entire read I can gather that your analysis of my filter has just been sloppy. My missread on CR was mostly based on the fact that I thought kush was another player (I've said this before). My missread on geript was admittedly a little sloppy (I've said this before). Moving on to another point: you were pretty adamant about lynching Palmar d1, yet he completely disappeared off your scum list during d2. What's up with this?

Finally, geript. I don't have a very strong read on him. That being said, I'm definitely leaning scum on him at the moment. His PGO claim still feels very weird for me, but I can imagine scenarios in which I would do this (hint: that's why I specifically asked about it). I think his single active mafia scenario is very possible from a town perspective, though I believe there are at least 2 active mafia. At this point in time I think I would prefer to lynch BC over geript. I would really like geript to elaborate on why he thinks I'm scum, in a manner that's not obnoxious and with appropriate elaboration.

##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

Some additional reads/things:
ShiaoPi starts d2 very well and I like him! Short and to the point. I'm expecting you to keep it up, however.
Lord Tolkien keeps pinging me out to post. I'm almost in your pocket bro, just one more ping! (i.e. I like Tolkien)
IAmRobik is fucking weird and scary. Very unsure of you, man.
Palmar has picked it up a little d2 compared to what I read about him d1. I'm not sure what kind of game he's playing. Palmar, I would like to see you start a wagon today.

I don't have strong reads on other people right now, but I haven't had much time to filterdive a lot today. Will be around to interact for some time.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 02:04 GMT
#3268
On September 19 2014 11:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: superbia


You care to elaborate?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 02:16 GMT
#3280
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 02:22 GMT
#3290
On September 19 2014 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.


Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?


Possible. I'm more inclined to think that palmar is aligned with BC.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 02:26 GMT
#3297
On September 19 2014 11:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hopeless why do you not list geript in your top 3? My conviction in my vote is waning as the only real dirt I have is the claim/unclaim like most people here and it's starting to seem like a weak foundation.

Superbia what makes BC a more scummy person than geript? Your big post paints geript as far more red looking than BC.


BC filter feels like it has no town. geript's filter feels like it might be town. I think geript has a somewhat decent chance of flipping town. Don't feel the same way about BC.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 02:33 GMT
#3309
On September 19 2014 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:22 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.


Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?


Possible. I'm more inclined to think that palmar is aligned with BC.


So you said you would shoot geript and BC. Now you're saying palmar is aligned with BC. You're basically saying that those 3 are mafia. Is that so?


Let me put in a nice little list:
If possible -> Shoot both BC and geript.
Then if BC flips scum -> Shoot Palmar.

I'm not quite sure about the second point, because I haven't had the time to get a good read on everyone yet, but as it stands right now, I wouldn't be unhappy with this. Happy now?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 02:42 GMT
#3329
On September 19 2014 11:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 11:33 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:22 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:19 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 11:07 GlowingBear wrote:
So you're basically saying your reads is based on how people pushed you.

1) tell me what do you think of palmar
2) what are the possible scenarios you've come to, regarding geript?


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.


Do you believe geript and palmar could be from the same alignment?


Possible. I'm more inclined to think that palmar is aligned with BC.


So you said you would shoot geript and BC. Now you're saying palmar is aligned with BC. You're basically saying that those 3 are mafia. Is that so?


Let me put in a nice little list:
If possible -> Shoot both BC and geript.
Then if BC flips scum -> Shoot Palmar.

I'm not quite sure about the second point, because I haven't had the time to get a good read on everyone yet, but as it stands right now, I wouldn't be unhappy with this. Happy now?


Nope.
It makes sense but your reasoning is weird. I don't get why you would associate palmar with flipped scum BC.


BC scum-reads Palmar d1. Palmar mysteriously vanishes from BC's d2 scum list. This is my current association.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 03:05 GMT
#3365
Am I the only one who wants to lynch BC today?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 03:15 GMT
#3384
Ugh. Yamato's filter does feel very towny, but I'm not ready to trust him yet. And I'm definitely not ready to relinquish my vote yet.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 03:18 GMT
#3392
On September 19 2014 12:16 geript wrote:
I'd be more wonderful if I had some ice cream though.


What the fuck are you doing?
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 03:21 GMT
#3396
I'm off too then.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 12:36 GMT
#3461
On September 19 2014 18:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Actually, I wanna lynch BC. And if BC flips mafia, we should look into Superbia.

All of Superbia's other reads were quite general and I get the impression that he's only skimming over people. His read on BC was quite specific. So either he's town and he spends most of his time investigating one person, and still decides to post a tidbit on other people, or he's mafia bussing. It's far easier for a mafia to catch a teammate's blunder than a town to.

I think the latter is more likely since Superbia seems a little too sure on BC. Anyways, I don't know why I'm blabbing on under the assumption that BC will flip scum, so I'll be quiet now.

But yeah, I would also lynch BC tomorrow.


I'm happy that you're on board, CR. But me being scum with BC makes no sense:

Start of the day (i.e. before I make my first relevant post) pushes are on geript and palmar. I make a push on BC. If I'm scum, I would know about yamamoto's town-read on BC, and pretty everyone not pushing on BC because of it (due to mafia QT). In what world would I make a push for fellow scum here? Specifically BC, who I have a great excuse for not to lynch. I would deflect to town, or just bus inside the wagons. Only way I'm possibly scum is if BC flips green.
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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 12:36 GMT
#3462
Going to make some lunch, eat it. Then going to find some more scum to put on the to-lynch list.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 12:38 GMT
#3463
EBWOP: Specifically BC, whom*

Stayin' classy.
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