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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:09 GMT
#3621
Right. Im going to ignore Robik's posts on geript now.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 18:10 GMT
#3622
Robik, when going over koshi's reads, you said the following: "If I had to list his scum reads in order from scummiest to towniest: [list]", and then promptly listed BC as last (i.e. most townie). Where did you get this read from?
Minimal effort.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 19 2014 18:12 GMT
#3623
@Palmer. Would you take a serious look at HF for me? The thing that really stuck out to me is how focused he's been since coming back. The thing I've noticed from the last game (where he was scum) with me is that when he's mafia he tends to solely focus on one lynch at a time. He looks to secure lynches over evaluating lynches. It doesn't even matter whether it's a favorable or unfavorable lynch for him. He just has some need to actually look like he's pushing a lynch. Could you evaluate that aspect.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 19 2014 18:13 GMT
#3624
people that want to kill LT after i already pretty much proved he's town should be lynched
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 19 2014 18:14 GMT
#3625
On September 20 2014 03:12 geript wrote:
@Palmer. Would you take a serious look at HF for me? The thing that really stuck out to me is how focused he's been since coming back. The thing I've noticed from the last game (where he was scum) with me is that when he's mafia he tends to solely focus on one lynch at a time. He looks to secure lynches over evaluating lynches. It doesn't even matter whether it's a favorable or unfavorable lynch for him. He just has some need to actually look like he's pushing a lynch. Could you evaluate that aspect.


I've been in this thread for half a cycle and have 6 pages of information on not one lynch's worth of players. Stop pushing your shitty scummy agenda.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:17 GMT
#3626
On September 20 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote:
people that want to kill LT after i already pretty much proved he's town should be lynched

Storrs just OMGUSing. Thats the only good part of his filter.

The rest of his filter is what points to elfscum.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 19 2014 18:18 GMT
#3627
On September 19 2014 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
and jat the LT thing was just a silly effort to newness ratio (disregarding if the content was awful), it's a weak read I guess but it's enough that I'm not really wary of any scummy agenda that he's pushing

and he scum read koshi and ve (well not really ve but wrote a bit on ve being scummytowny) and then they both got nk'd so unless he's doing some super awesome wifom play or mafia has someone leading them then I think he should be up to townyish list for now

On September 19 2014 06:39 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 06:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 19 2014 06:32 Holyflare wrote:
On September 19 2014 06:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't even know what I think anymore.

Can someone more experienced look at Yamato's filter and tell me why I am so irked? It's like he saw the vulnerability of geript's misplay and is using it to coast through D2. 3/5 of his last posts are variations of "We should lynch geript." with nothing else.


it should be obvious to more experienced people but the mafia team is obviously full of inexperienced people

Why do you think so? I mean the second part of the post.


because they killed 2 of the towniest people in the game when there are chances for multiple medics and i'm not going to discuss the rest of why but it just very most likely is


this is why LT is most likely town, scum killed 2 prominent towny looking people, they most definitely do not have someone experienced leading them because those kills are retarded with 2 potential medic roles in the game so that means that the team is pretty much comprised of low level players

if LT is mafia he set up the most elaborate plan to scum read VE and koshi and then NK them just so he could look towny but then never even use it in his defence? I don't think so



I think storr is an excellent lynch for trying to get this guy lynched
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:19 GMT
#3628
Uh. I dont recall calling VE scummy. Just that he likes to feed Robik.

Which is somewhat antitown d1 I guess but uh.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 19 2014 18:20 GMT
#3629
On September 20 2014 03:07 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 03:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Palmar had a shitty start to the game. He didn't psot too much. The posts that he had were bad. He claimed mafia and afk'd to play dota which is very much his mafia meta.

Rayn had a decent start to d1, but then he reverted into his mafia meta calling people shit and yelling at people who didn't follow him. Then geript comes in and claims a role, claiming to have done that after he read filters from rayn, koshi and 2 other people. He claimed KNOWING that rayn had said he wasn't PGO. Then he rescinded his claim because "he wanted to get shot" WUT? WHY WOULD ANYONE SHOOT SOMEONE WHO HADN'T CAUGHT UP IN THE GAME AND HADN'T PRODUCED A SINGLE READ? His logic is completely wrong. Every fucking word that he types is a fucking lie. Burnscumburn

For the record, I 100% have covered this. I never read Rayn to see what he's claimed; I don't care about that. I wanted to know who he thought was town and scum. I read most of the first half and skimmed the rest (after he went ape shit). Also, anyone who knows me the first thing I would look at if I were mafia would actually be what I can safely claim if needed. The most important thing there would be to read Rayn's filter for that.

I haven't doublechecked but I don't think rayn was already going apeshit when he posted about the PGO?!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 19 2014 18:20 GMT
#3630
I like you HF we can be friends this game. I feel a storr lynch is a good lynch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 19 2014 18:21 GMT
#3631
On September 20 2014 03:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Uh. I dont recall calling VE scummy. Just that he likes to feed Robik.

Which is somewhat antitown d1 I guess but uh.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466211-tl-mafia-lxviii-fanfic-crossover-edition?page=124#2464

I'm referring to this post where you call him scummy or useless town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 19 2014 18:23 GMT
#3632
On September 19 2014 21:36 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 18:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Actually, I wanna lynch BC. And if BC flips mafia, we should look into Superbia.

All of Superbia's other reads were quite general and I get the impression that he's only skimming over people. His read on BC was quite specific. So either he's town and he spends most of his time investigating one person, and still decides to post a tidbit on other people, or he's mafia bussing. It's far easier for a mafia to catch a teammate's blunder than a town to.

I think the latter is more likely since Superbia seems a little too sure on BC. Anyways, I don't know why I'm blabbing on under the assumption that BC will flip scum, so I'll be quiet now.

But yeah, I would also lynch BC tomorrow.


I'm happy that you're on board, CR. But me being scum with BC makes no sense:

Start of the day (i.e. before I make my first relevant post) pushes are on geript and palmar. I make a push on BC. If I'm scum, I would know about yamamoto's town-read on BC, and pretty everyone not pushing on BC because of it (due to mafia QT). In what world would I make a push for fellow scum here? Specifically BC, who I have a great excuse for not to lynch. I would deflect to town, or just bus inside the wagons. Only way I'm possibly scum is if BC flips green.

Ugh... I don't know if that is just the newbie speaking or plain scum. You pushing your buddy basically only makes sense if you are not getting him lynched soon which is exactly the case right now as you described yourself.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 19 2014 18:23 GMT
#3633
On September 20 2014 03:05 Superbia wrote:
Wanting to kill BC is not an agenda?

Wanting to kill BC is probably not a good agenda given that 3-4 players said he was a bad lynch. I doubt everyone is just lying about his meta. I thought BC was scummy, but I'm unwilling to lynch him based off of the advice of those 3-4 people
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:26 GMT
#3634
Oh. Meant koshi that was one long koshi read.

...if everyone was confused about that lol


Also, I did do an elaborate plan like that in my newbie mafia game.

Well, joked i would kill jenny and did n1. Twas a silly game where my partner died d1 and I might have succeeded getting poofter lynched at lylo if it werent for that meddling cop and his stupid check.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 18:26 GMT
#3635
On September 20 2014 03:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 21:36 Superbia wrote:
On September 19 2014 18:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Actually, I wanna lynch BC. And if BC flips mafia, we should look into Superbia.

All of Superbia's other reads were quite general and I get the impression that he's only skimming over people. His read on BC was quite specific. So either he's town and he spends most of his time investigating one person, and still decides to post a tidbit on other people, or he's mafia bussing. It's far easier for a mafia to catch a teammate's blunder than a town to.

I think the latter is more likely since Superbia seems a little too sure on BC. Anyways, I don't know why I'm blabbing on under the assumption that BC will flip scum, so I'll be quiet now.

But yeah, I would also lynch BC tomorrow.


I'm happy that you're on board, CR. But me being scum with BC makes no sense:

Start of the day (i.e. before I make my first relevant post) pushes are on geript and palmar. I make a push on BC. If I'm scum, I would know about yamamoto's town-read on BC, and pretty everyone not pushing on BC because of it (due to mafia QT). In what world would I make a push for fellow scum here? Specifically BC, who I have a great excuse for not to lynch. I would deflect to town, or just bus inside the wagons. Only way I'm possibly scum is if BC flips green.

Ugh... I don't know if that is just the newbie speaking or plain scum. You pushing your buddy basically only makes sense if you are not getting him lynched soon which is exactly the case right now as you described yourself.


How am I going to know if the push is going to fail that early? I thought my case was pretty decent, especially considering the amount of content BC has posted.
Minimal effort.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:27 GMT
#3636
now would be confident in something like that in a non newb game, well I cant say.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:27 GMT
#3637
Would I*
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 19 2014 18:28 GMT
#3638
On September 20 2014 03:23 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 03:05 Superbia wrote:
Wanting to kill BC is not an agenda?

Wanting to kill BC is probably not a good agenda given that 3-4 players said he was a bad lynch. I doubt everyone is just lying about his meta. I thought BC was scummy, but I'm unwilling to lynch him based off of the advice of those 3-4 people


Who had a meta-read on him besides Yamato? I believe it was only one other person, but I don't recall who nor how confident he was.
Minimal effort.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 19 2014 18:28 GMT
#3639
Anyways yey ppl agree to d3 storr wagon. Much good. Triple plus.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 19 2014 18:29 GMT
#3640
On September 20 2014 01:07 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Voting Palmar when I get the chance. The PGO then withdraw from geript seems too bold a move on retrospect for mafia I THINK.

Will post broader case on storr later. Hes not a d2 lynch due to momentum but I think unless I see evidence otherwise ill push him hard d3.

The withdraw was the safest play he could possibly do and certainly not bold. The other sentence is just really bad. You can make your day3 cases in the night. Concentrate on THIS lynch now. It doesn't seem like you care about it that much.
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