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Hm yeah, possibly. I'm fine with lynching Tehpoofter today. I can't think of much anything he's done so far despite his somewhat large filter.
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On August 20 2014 00:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 00:49 Xatalos wrote:On August 20 2014 00:41 Damdred wrote:On August 20 2014 00:35 Xatalos wrote:On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ?
Xata, what changed your mind?
He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself. Are you serious right here? here are the posts where i pursued the issue with GB On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.
But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today? On August 19 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:On August 19 2014 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.
But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today? I think Robik is the best vote now, for the reasons I've brought. I don't like Yamato and gprit lurking as well. Actually your case draws strength from rob not being rob like atleast thats what it seems. Rob pointing out a scummy post by you doesn't show that hes scummy infact he wasn't the first person really to draw attention your way, and hes told the thread about his posting issues so I really don't think you have a case. On August 19 2014 02:11 Damdred wrote:On August 19 2014 02:03 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:On August 19 2014 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.
But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today? I think Robik is the best vote now, for the reasons I've brought. I don't like Yamato and gprit lurking as well. Actually your case draws strength from rob not being rob like atleast thats what it seems. Rob pointing out a scummy post by you doesn't show that hes scummy infact he wasn't the first person really to draw attention your way, and hes told the thread about his posting issues so I really don't think you have a case. You're the first wagon. If you say you're town and if you believe Robik isn't mafia, who is? It doesn't matter who the first wagon is honestly either you think i'm town or you don't. I didn't say Rob wasn't mafia I said your case was anon case and you should give him time to get home and be more critical to see if he acts normal or not. I'd say from his limited postings I don't see a lot of anything scummy about what he has posted. Right now it's hard for me to ignore Yamato since he hasn't posted, but its still early in day one and certain people haven't posted at all. There just is not a lot to go on, got a few town leans right now, and you seem weird to me right now GB. You have thrown suspicion on several players, and when some pressure was added to you, you honestly threw some more suspicion and left the thread/lurked until recently when you decided to jump on Rob. Just is weird for you right now On August 19 2014 03:32 Damdred wrote:
Right now you have two wagons GB, Rob and Damdred (go me),
To me neither wagon seems really strong one is based off of a sorta meta read where rob isn't being his normal rob self, he explained it well before you posted that his work blocked websites and hes slower than normal and not able to play as critically as when hes at home, yet you vote for him (granted i been playing in a lot of IML games so votes don't have as big of impact). You use the same excuse as Rob does that you can't post as much or quote as much since you are on the phone most of the time and you find him lurky. Neither of these reasons seem really hard enough for a vote or a good case. If someone else gave this case GB would you find it a good enough case to vote for?
Your Damdred case (or case on me XD) revolves around one of my first posts that I made shortly after getting off a long shift. I rightfully got attacked on it. This case is better than Robs case that it is a weird post but it seems to neglect a lot of the content that came after the day 1 start. Looking at the day and how its went and participation would you vote for this case over rob?
Would you vote for either of these cases or would you look elsewhere or at the person presenting the cases GB? To me neither case makes much sense and just feels like flinging stuff until you find something that sticks. And I don't like it don't like it at all. Also you cast some doubt on ray and its a good tactic mafia would use to distance themselves from the ray kill, so even though Xat would say why would they do this I can see it. On August 19 2014 03:33 Damdred wrote:
Also gb i forgot to ask whats up with the lurkers? Almost everyone has commented on them and of course I don't want them to lurk and nobody does since we can't get good reads and it will make lylo really hard if one of them makes it Why are you lying on me Xata? There was NOTHING casual about this I went after GB and didn't stop and GB eventually left the thread and came back today....why are you saying things like this I meant casual in the way how you originally just said something like "GB seems a bit weird, he should be watched" when asked for scumreads, not committing to anything. But you have actually posted about GB after that, that was incorrect of me to say. Maybe your posts have just been a bit "tame" in the sense that they're mostly questions or descriptions rather than expressing that much of your own opinion in them. Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 00:35 Xatalos wrote:On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ?
Xata, what changed your mind?
He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself. So which is it? Have i brought original content and participated or am i tame and not expressing much of my opinion? One way I could very highly see you voting for me another not so much. There seems a sort of disconnect between these posts non consistent perhaps. Also give me some actual reads Xata not G is town because his reads have been good. Give me something of substance
Original content regarding me especially, not so much regarding GB. You did dispute GB's readpost though I think.
I pretty much agree with geript's reads + he has explained the reasons behind his reads well enough. It doesn't make him 100% town but I don't really see any way we're lynching him today.
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On August 20 2014 01:40 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 00:54 Xatalos wrote:
Hm yeah, possibly. I'm fine with lynching Tehpoofter today. I can't think of much anything he's done so far despite his somewhat large filter.
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##Vote Tehpoofter And I hate this vote, if the only reason poof gets lynched to you is because he hasn't done much by your standard...we would be lynching you today Xata, you have an insanely long filter but I can't remember a ton of what you did and most of your reads have been one sentence or longer so please do more stuff cause i'm getting suspicious of you right now
You can't really compare me and Tehpoofter. Most of Tehpoofter's filter is posts like "your usefulness is unbound" or "that's such a contribution", absolutely useless one-liners that may even affect the town atmosphere negatively. I've went through his filter before and I still can't think of anything he's done for town from the top of my head, even if he has one of the longer filters. I'll have to look through it again, but nothing really comes to mind when I think about him. Oh, there's the marry/bang post, but it lacked reads on some players and the scumreads were pretty much baseless. Sorry Tehpoofter, I know you wanted to marry me :/
Btw I don't really feel bad about the way the wagon is going. I can easily see all of the current voters being town so it's not like it's going too easily.
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I looked at Tehpoofter's filter again and he hasn't even voted yet... I really hope he comes back soon and does something. The last page of his filter was pretty much just noise that didn't have any purpose for finding scum (except the weird toneread on Robik and saying that Robik is a good scumplayer so he could be scum...).
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Btw there was a ton of "tonereading" on Vendetta Strada but I can't really put much weigh on it unless you're some sort of an extraordinary tonereader or you can convincingly explain the toneread.
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The game feels a bit too easy if the scumteam is Tehpoofter/GB/Damdred so I guess there's probably a scum somewhere among my townreads. I think there's a very high chance of hitting scum when lynching into this group however. Like 80-90%.
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Robik and geript I feel are very strongly town. Just look at the way they naturally participate in the discussion and evaluate scumreads. yamato is probably town too (just because his scumplay is so abysmal from my experience), although I'd like him to put in a bit more effort, and Oats I'm not completely sure about but he's been posting and I didn't see anything scummy from him. So that just leaves Tehpoofter/GB/Damdred atm.
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On August 20 2014 02:36 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Post 9 in conjunction with Post 11 suck --> He calls Yamato town and then says Xat is silly for giving yamato a town read pass
I guess my point on post 8 was brought up by Rayn, per Damdred's post 12 This is probably the most damning thing though. I'm going to go back and reread him more carefully though.
I think he gave a somewhat plausible explanation to this though. Something about yamato lurking for a while by then so I shouldn't townread him so easily. Still it's weird to focus on something like that when he didn't even scumread yamato.
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So there's like a couple of hours until the deadline? What will you vote, Damdred, Tehpoofter, GlowingBear?
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Tbh I think the gun holder should probably shoot GlowingBear or something at this time.
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On August 20 2014 04:32 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 04:27 Xatalos wrote:
Tbh I think the gun holder should probably shoot GlowingBear or something at this time. This is the dumbest thing in this thread what if they are town and we mislynch? Don't push us to the point of no return day 2
I find it pretty hard to believe that both Tehpoofter and GB are town.
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Hm yeah actually it's not impossible for GB to be town. I had already about forgotten how he felt genuinely frustrated a few pages back. Shooting Tehpoofter would be the better move.
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Although I still don't know if the bullet disappears after one day or not. That could change things.
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Btw please give me a gun at night. I want to shoot people 
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Damdred, how did you go from this:
On August 18 2014 23:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 22:46 Oatsmaster wrote:Man I dont understand this part at all Damdred. also just by reading the thread it looks like Xatalos would have the biggest filter day one so even if I did feel hes scummy I wouldn't push a lynch on him at this point its more town xat. Why big filter = town and why wont you push him if you think he is scummy regardless of his filter? buddy much? Town Xatalos posts a lot and posts whatever hes thinking whenever in my experience with him. His filter size shows if hes being towny. And what i've noticed hes been pretty open about his reads and opinions isn't scared to be wrong and always tries to explain his thought process. And generally its always a bad idea to lynch into the people with the biggest filters day one normally they aren't mafia, if his play tapers off and he starts to lurk i'll rethink it but i don't think hes a good lynch for day one at all. And Xat it did feel like you were just sheeping what Ray was saying at first but looking back over the thread I thought it was pretty consitant with what you been saying. So it was probably more of a reaction to being called mafia at this point, so yea i'm pretty town on you right now.
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On August 20 2014 05:11 Damdred wrote:
i'm leaning mafia on Xat now because he has this huge filter that is completely useless almost and fluff every read he gives is a one sentence shot thats mostly "Oh I think hes town" well thats great.
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On August 20 2014 05:15 Tehpoofter wrote:
##Vote Geript
I forgot to do this last night before I went to bed. He is the one who wasn't around to use the shitty witch power and I don't think it was used or we would have seen 2 kills or something I imagine.
Palmar's vote counts suck cause they don't have time until EoD. :/
This is the worst reason for a vote I've seen in a while.
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I don't think the Shitty Witch power was used either but:
1) Usually anyone in the scumteam can order the abilities as needed
2) That's far from the only reason for the ability not being used
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Btw it would be the ultimate irony if Tehpoofter was the Shitty Witch 
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On August 20 2014 05:39 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 05:36 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think the Shitty Witch power was used either but:
1) Usually anyone in the scumteam can order the abilities as needed
2) That's far from the only reason for the ability not being used Who here wouldn't use the power. I know I would Rob for fuck sure would have. I feel like GB/Damdred would have. Oats the only reason he wouldnt is because he was getting the universal town read. Yamato I feel also would Yolo. Maybe I'm making too much out of nothing but that power is the ONLY Reason I joined this game because it was awesome and really mad for a different game and whoever had it didn't use it I don't think which makes me want to lynch them EVEN MORE than any of the other mafia. Like if mafia just gives up their witch I'm down cause that was a giant waste not to.
I think most would use it, but it's not very convincing if that's your reason for geript being scum. Like that's a reason that would be extremely easy to think of as scum.
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Somehow Tehpoofter's enthusiasm of the Shitty Witch role is making me doubt him being scum a little bit. On the other hand that would be a very easy angle to try appear townie, but it doesn't feel like he would just gladly let it be unused either.
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