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I am just rambling atm. I can't even proofread my post anymore.
I am going to look what Onegu and HAruRH do tomorrow and try to convince them to lynch rayn today. And if not tomorrow.
sad world. how did it happen.
It's not over though.
I pissed of HarURH though, quite badly.
arfff.
We can pray.
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HaruRH,
So I know I kinda pissed you off. I am sorry for it but maybe because I am getting lynched lol. I also still think you meant to vote VE as a support vote or something. But I really would like you to lynch rayn over me and not vote with VE. Obviously I say this as both alignments but like... I really do play different than in the team melee game right?
Please look past my dumbness and consider lynching rayn.
If it is a big no, still keep your mind open to do it tomorrow.
Thx Sad Koshi
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On August 21 2014 08:20 Koshi wrote: HaruRH,
So I know I fucking pissed you off. I am sorry for it but maybe because of that I am getting lynched lol. I also still think you meant to vote VE as a throwaway vote or something. But I really would like you to lynch rayn over me and not vote with VE. Obviously I say this as both alignments but like... I really do play different than in the team melee game right?
Please look past my dumbness and consider lynching rayn.
If it is a big no, still attempt to play the game tomorrow
Thx Sad Koshi
Fixed
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Already awake. Guess this is the time I go to bed so I get some sleep.
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Haru can you come talk to me man? We need to figure this game out
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Koshi's towncases on Onegu are shit. The things he says aren't even true, like the whole time Onegu is just calling out random people that aren't batsnacks, while professing to want to lynch batsnacks and basing his reads on batsnacks being red BEFORE his flip. It all reeks of Onegu already knowing bats is going to flip mafia and trying to make other people look scummy.
Like, when he calls out me he says something like "There are WAY more lurkers than batsnacks and I"
LIKE REALLY?!?!!? HE EVEN DEFENDS BATSNACKS JUST TO DIG AT ME?!?!
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And Koshi's all "That's a good callout on VE"
ALL MY WAT
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Yeah Im not defending myself anymore, I bored what this game has turned into. Like yes VE thats me defending bats telling you there are more lurkers... Im not voteing for koshi. Its rayn or no one for me. Like yes I promised you Id look into VE koshi and I will, but he wont be the lynch today, it should be rayn as thats the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.
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On August 13 2014 00:00 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2014 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi guys. Can we lynch one of the hard lurkers now? I'm okay with batsnacks maybe. Or possibly Onegu. Haru just said I'm inconsistent and that can die in a fire. WHICH WAY IS THE WIND BLOWING GUYS?!? Are you reading? There so many more lurkers than me and batsnacks and I have been around for a while now. There is nothing in here that makes it look like Onegu knows bat is scum.
It is true because koc harur mm1 bat onegu were probably all lurkers back then.
I dont see why this is scummy VE
Onegu you need to either proof I am town, proof you are town or proof rayn is scum. We are long over the point VE can be looked at. I guess thats for mylo or lylo. And he is town. Just dont go off the path rayn is scum. Also not tomorrow, you might make a mistake in trying to figure out ve and it might cost you. But it would be awesome if you can one or more of the above.
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HaruRH, can you please vote rayn? Or play the game a little bit? Please? Pretty please?
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On August 20 2014 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here's why Koshi is mafia: (1): Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:35 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote Mages
Ok. I still don't believe it but w.e Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 06:36 Koshi wrote: This also means batsnacks is town.
ohhhh boooyyyyy Before those quotes didn't want to lynch Mages. It took an extremely high effort from me and 1v1 to tell why Mages is mafia - that should have been a no-brainer. (2): Koshi didn't really push batsnacks on D1. He says things like "i don't have very good D1 scum lynch ratio". It is not convincing and he cannot convince anyone by making statements like that. In case Mages hadn't claimed scum Koshi would have never been able to lynch bats over Haru (barring Haru's claim ofc). He didn't really even try. (3): Koshi called batsnacks town because of Mages being mafia. Then on D2 he suddenly wants to lynch bats.. It makes no sense at all. He never explains it and he has to bus because there were already people thinking he is mafia. Also remember the time i made my last post on D2. Koshi was willing to sheep ME (his scumred) onto MM1 and away from bats. This also proves Koshi didn't really want to lynch bats - only wanted to look good in case bats flips later on. (4): Koshi no-hitting makes perfect sense on N2. After bats lynch he was considered "incredibly townie" and he knows there is no way he is gonna get lynched anyways so it doesn't really matter if he kills or not. Just make everyone run in circles. (5): After N2 Koshi has been terrible. I am suddenly his top scumread while i did this EXACT same thing the last game as town. I didn't play on weekend because i have other stuff to do. Koshi learns from his mistakes. Here he doesn't. VE you know what happened in VSHunt IV. Koshi never makes the same mistake twice. Never. As town. Koshi doesn't push me, Koshi doesn't push anything on D3, he literally did nothing and just let me (HIS SCUMREAD) lynch kush with zero resistance. Not town. There. Now die on D4 scum. I am out and won't be posting any more because this game has been so fucking retarded after D2. Lynch Koshi the next day. ##Unvote: ##Vote: traynpelikoneet (1) I just didn't believe it lol. And if I was in the mindset of bussing (I was pushing for the batsnacks lynch D1) why wouldn't I buss Mages? I really just didn't believe he scumclaimed. I thought he was again being a dramaqueen / doing a personage.
(2) I am really sad that the batsnacks lynch is ripped away from me only 2 days after it happened. Without me there would have been votes scattered over KoC and MM1 who I harddefended with town cases that day.
(3) I had to bus? Come on.... I also never had you as scum that day, so you are really twisting facts here. UGHHHH Here you are really lieing rayn.
(4) It doesn't really. I am pretty sure that I would never get a vote on me w.e I did with Snowman / Kush in the game and the fact I really just owned that batsnacks lynch... I could just sit D3 out and never get lynched. Which kinda happened with Kush. lol. So I didn't need to no kill for that.
(5) Kush reacted to all pressure extremely scummy. My idea was to push rayn and then transition into Onegu on D3. But it didn't happen because rayn didn't proof himself town. Which I still doubted till D4 where you see me try and see one more time if rayn is town/scum by really reaching out to him as friendly as I possible can. He again couldn't proof himself town and I voted him with the case I made.
other accusations
Leaving my options open.
(6) After I again decided I should park my vote on rayn on D4, I should have been way harder on rayn. But remember I didn't push either VE or Onegu really. I just didn't ignore the possibility that they were scum and gave the reasoning to why they still could be scum. Somewhere, I can understand how that looks terrible, the case from VE he made illustrated that pretty good. But I did it because I thought that keeping the pressure open is not a bad thing for town. It creates discussion around these people and who knows, I might have missed something that I then pick up in those discussions. Hard pushing rayn was the best play, but I wasn't sure enough yet. I know VE is upset about me reading him scum, but again I repeat, as scum it was in my best interest to buddy him, and then in the night decide to play 3 vs 1 and have him pocketed or play 2 vs 1 without him if he isn't in my pocket. Yes, I understand that it looks like I want to play the 3 vs 1 with Onegu in my pocket and VE as the misslynch. But I don't think that was optimal. Why would I then have no killed N2? It's all messy. I don't play messy or greedy (with many ways to victory) as scum. I play pretty straightforward pushing my wincon. I don't keep all the options open. ugh. I can't proof the last part.
The holding shot thing with the rules (7) Call it wishful thinking while knowing deep down it wasn't going to happen. I kinda then pushed the idea like a retard in the thread to make it more likely slOosh would accept it. Which he ofc wouldn't ever. Really dumb shit by me. Probably somewhat raddled by the 2 votes on me. I don't know. I am fucking stupid. It looks bad, I agree, with me then saying we win the game because also saying VE has 10% to be scum. It's 2 ideas mixed together and I don't really believed we would get the free win so I kept going with the first idea in my analysis. This one was really dumb now that I look back on it. But it is not scum mixing up his reads.
But my best defense is that I was right about HaruRH, KoC and MM1. That I lynched batsnacks. I went really hard agaisnt the notions that the first 3 were scum. I went really hard to get batsnacks lynched. It's sad (for me) you didn't follow the thread to closely to see this VE. But I really did. I never do that as scum. It doesn't procceed my wincon.
Writing all this, especially with reacting to the rayn case, I really really believe now that rayn is the last scummer. Somewhere I am ok with dieing and then betting it all on rayn. But why? Please VE, Please HaruRH, could you vote rayn? Just look at the cases I made. Look at the amount of words he writes. He did a decent effort on the case on me. But that was the only time. And 2 points are really weak in it, as in, you can just see they are weak. It is a bit sad that you now believe I wasn't the biggest and most gigantic reason why batsnacks was lynched. I had 1 weak moment, and it rips out the entire push I did on batsnacks. Really annoying tbh.
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So why exactly do you have me as scum? Tonight i read your case against me and if it contains stuff from D1 or D2 you are mafia because if that is the case you are accusing me for same things that you read me town for earlier.
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Nah nevermind. You already climed mafia with your stuff on VE. It does not change... It does not matter.
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On August 21 2014 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 04:31 Koshi wrote: And if I think about it.
I could actually lynch VE over Onegu atm. ---except you are sure mafiacan't hold their shots which would make VE confirmed town? 
On August 21 2014 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: No you literally said you don't think there is any way VE is mafia (because mafia "can't hold their shots") and then you said you'd lynch VE over Onegu. That's a scumclaim sir.
On August 21 2014 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:It doesn't make sense you consider VE mafia. Even less when you said he is confirmed town by your logic. 
On August 21 2014 05:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: He claimed MAFIA! You do not say as town "VE is 100% town because of this thought process i have but still i'd lynch VE over Onegu"! Youdonotsaythatastown!Noonesaysthatastown!!Youdonotsaythatastown!Noonesaysthatastown!!Youdonotsaythatastown!Noonesaysthatastown!!Youdonotsaythatastown!Noonesaysthatastown!!Youdonotsaythatastown!Noonesaysthatastown!!Youdonotsaythatastown!Noonesaysthatastown!! This is all that needs to be said.
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town with a dark side* The dark side kept growing bigger by being wrong and refusal to give reasoning.
I don't really want to discuss stuff with you because your plan is to annoy the living shit out of me. If both VE and HaruRH vote for me today, I accept that fate. I will then pray that you are tomorrow lynched.
I already twice wanted to work with you rayn, first time I did it by voting you. Second time by being really nice. You trew away both chances.
I know as scum you are going to try to fuck with me. It doesn't matter. It is not worth it. You got me as 100% scum. I got you now as 100% scum. Sadly I am in the running to be lynched first. Hopefully you will follow if that happens.
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And how was i wrong on D1 and D2? Where did my votes end up. You are twisting up the facts.
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Oh course you don't because you are mafia and can't get your facts straight because if you did you should call me town.
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