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Whatever here's your info Koshi I'm just irritated especially after how my last game ended:
KOC, technically, looks worse than anyone in the game. I don't care that asking tons of pointless questions that never get answered is part of his meta, it looks bad. It's like even if people answer his questions, that's actually worse for town than if they had just ignored him. Yet people are actually town reading him? That's lazy.
HaruRH said he shot 1v1 which, even though I thought his reasons were incomprehensible, I still believe him. I believe him because I think anyone shooting the longest d1 filter is incomprehensible. His actions = incomprehensible ; his explanations = incomprehensible. It's not much but at least the two match.
I still think VE is scum because:
On August 15 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2014 06:22 Sn0_Man wrote:Explain why ur listening to rayn lol thats generally a bad idea. If he's scum he's misleading u and if he's town he's off on a wild goose chase see: his HaruRH crusade. I'm happy to hear ur reasoning on things. Do you think the scumteam is now VE and Onegu? What reasoning do you have on Onegu BEYOND omgus because you look scummy enough for that not to be a reason. Just write me nice long posts filled with all your thoughts on the game so that I can read you  I don't actually have reasons for voting Onegu I just voted him for the hell of it; which is why I think he voted me, for the hell of it. So right back at him. Why not? This is entirely hypothetical but I think VE is scum who claimed medic and I think his reasoning for claiming medic is as follows: 0. VE is scum (assumption) 1.VE figures out there is no medic because medic, cop, and vig would be imbalanced for town 2. VE claims medic, knowing there is no medic 3. There is no medic, so town isn't going to CC 4. VE achieves uncced medic status for free; there is no gamble The reason I think this is the way he claimed. He claimed at the start of day 2 at the very first sign of trouble, right after he successfully shot the cop. He knows there is a cop, he knows there is a vig, so he assumes there can't be a medic. Does this make sense?
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but batsnacks, why would he claim a pr when it's unlikely we have another pr?
that's why i see the claim as null.
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On August 15 2014 08:12 kushm4sta wrote:
but batsnacks, why would he claim a pr when it's unlikely we have another pr?
that's why i see the claim as null.
Kush if you are the medic, do you claim when VE did? If I'm VE, I don't claim when he did. That's why.
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ebwop: I worded that bad but I want to believe you understand what I'm saying. Since I've said it like three times already, I can't assume you do.
If I were the real medic, and I were VE, I would not have claimed like that. At the first sign of trouble, and at the very beginning of the day; right after the cop and the vig had been revealed.
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batsnacks I see what you are saying, but I'm taking it to the next level.
It was obviously a fishy as hell claim so why would he claim it as scum?
Though, sometimes scum make really bad claims because they are playing the level game and they know in a way bad claims are even more believable. But that is pretty rare.
That's why I think it's safer to treat the claim as null.
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On August 15 2014 08:34 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks I see what you are saying, but I'm taking it to the next level.
It was obviously a fishy as hell claim so why would he claim it as scum?
Though, sometimes scum make really bad claims because they are playing the level game and they know in a way bad claims are even more believable. But that is pretty rare.
That's why I think it's safer to treat the claim as null.
-Obviously- a fish as hell claim? Why have I been feeling like >50% of the players in this game disagree?
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i dont even know why im defending him because I think he's probably scum lol
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On August 15 2014 08:34 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks I see what you are saying, but I'm taking it to the next level.
It was obviously a fishy as hell claim so why would he claim it as scum?
Though, sometimes scum make really bad claims because they are playing the level game and they know in a way bad claims are even more believable. But that is pretty rare.
That's why I think it's safer to treat the claim as null.
Alright.
Lets leave ve aside until d3. this thing will sort itself out then.
For now, we lynching onegu and a counterwagon. I dont feel good about bat/sn0 now.
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haru do you understand my reasoning why I tihnk mages cleared bat?
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On August 15 2014 09:08 kushm4sta wrote:
haru do you understand my reasoning why I tihnk mages cleared bat?
Yes I do.
But I also understand why koshi said that mages didnt really clear bat.
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so now i have to read koshi's filter...?
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On August 14 2014 18:17 Koshi wrote:
It does not matter that Mages said he would push batsnacks right before he surrendered. That is null maybe a bit town.
The only thing that matters is that Mages in his 5 page filter tried to convince anybody that batsnacks is scum. HE NEVER EVER DID. Mages even never gave a reason to why batsnacks is scum, not 1 reason. Mages moved of batsnacks when the wagons were forming and went back to KoC. Mages only called batsnacks scum in his listpost when HaruRH was very likely to be lynched, but apart from putting batsnacks in his listpost there was 0 intention to put any attention on batsnacks. Attention was put on 1v1 not having a reason and other silly things.
Batsnacks is not in the clear.
Snowman is town.
MM1 is town.
Nah you dont have to, kush. I've done the dirty work for you.
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On August 14 2014 08:55 kushm4sta wrote:
conclusions I make from looking at mages' filter:
koc is probably town.
Batsnacks is probably town. Mages wanted to lynch batsnacks over haru really badly. I don't think you can conclude anything about Haru's alignment from that, but why would scum try to move a split vote onto another scum? I think If batsnacks was scum, he would want to lynch haru.
Both koshi and kush's arguments are pretty valid.
Koshi: mages never properly pushed bat despite putting him in as scum in a listpost AFTER I was (almost) guaranteed to be lynched, so the scum read was kinda just for show
Kush: mages wouldnt try to move a split vote onto another scum and bat should have wagoned on me instead.
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as much as i don't like it, i think we should leave VE alive for a day or two more.
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On August 15 2014 10:32 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
as much as i don't like it, i think we should leave VE alive for a day or two more.
i agree. just as long as town doesn't decide he's confirmed medic if there is a nokill.
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can you explain why my filter is bad KOC?
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I do not really think anyone is mafia except Onegu.
I do not like Onegu's reasoning for NOT townreading KoC because that's the clearest thing on the earth. If there is mafia whose possibilities are (1) put their vote on a townie or (2) "clear" their scumbuddy by getting themselves lynched - every single person would take (1) anyday.
Now yes, Onegu said he hasn't read properly while this has been explained to him many times. Yes, he backed off. But it does not matter. Last time i was scum with Onegu i asked him if he needs help in catching up in scum QT (as he replaced in). He didn't want help, he made a case on a confirmed townie who looked maybe possibly scummy and it fucked both of us.
Yes i believe Onegu is mafia because he does not either read properly or think about what he reads from town perspective.
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batsnacks i still want you to explain why you are questioning a confirmed towwnie about his reasons to shoot someone. His reasons were good or bad but how can that POSSIBLY help us finding mafia?
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Koshi asked me questions and I answered them. I said I believed Haru.
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On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!
Hmm I feel we need to revisit this guy. He made 4 posts D2.
Is it likely he replies like this to a scumbuddy?
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