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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 11:31 GMT
#1503
For the record:
mafia!rayn would have not killed Damdred on N1. Because mafia!rayn would not trust Mages' blue read on Damdred 100% because mafia!rayn would consider himself as better player than Mages.

mafia!rayn would have lynched a townie on D2 100%. Because mafia!rayn would have a perfect chance to do so!!!

mafia!rayn would not no-kill or kill Koshi on N2. mafia!rayn would obviously kill VE because mafia!rayn is not an idiot. No-kill is a no-no because instead of needing to mislynch twice mafia!rayn would now have to mislynch three times.

Yeah Koshi, if you think i am an idiot who can't play mafia go ahead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 12:16 GMT
#1506
I don't make bullet point xases. Especially for you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 12:34 GMT
#1507
And you are a fucking liar for saying i have thought bats ia town on d2. Maybe we should just lynch you for all the bad shit you are doing. You are literally refusing to win the game if you are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:15 GMT
#1511
Oh yeah. There was something i don't even remember that made me think so. But then the unwillingness for giving an explanation to why he questioned a confirmed townie took over.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#1513
On August 18 2014 22:04 HaruRH wrote:
From my standpoint, kush is becoming more and more scummy. His scum-hue is darkening.
BUT VE is confirmed scum. No way in hell would scum not shoot the medic. This is obviously his own drama.
Let's see what happens tonight. If VE don't die, I would confirm 100% that VE is scum.

Bah I have more fun playing this game than playing in mafiascum (right now).

Plz don't be dumb. VE is not mafia. No sane mafia would no-kill because they would have to lynch one more dude in comparsion for killing. VE was already under suspicion for his non-playness and making 2 mislynches -> 3 mislynches would be an awful mafia play. VE is not awful.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:20 GMT
#1515
HARU AND KOSHI STOP BEING IDIOTS! NO! NO NO!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:20 GMT
#1516
Fucking shit do i actually need to write something. Gimme a moment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:41 GMT
#1519
Here is an example what kushm4sta does as town (and no - this is not the only case he has done this, it's pretty much in all of his games):
On July 20 2014 15:31 kushm4sta wrote:
nah im not screwing with you.
actually it's way more likely for you to be scum. here's why:

On July 20 2014 15:48 kushm4sta wrote:
1 d1 votes. people cite my legendary predilection for busing for the vote but in actuality i felt as strongly as I did from my own recent experience with not reading my role pm.

On July 20 2014 15:51 kushm4sta wrote:
in the process of trying to find number 2, i realized you are probably town.

He has a thought process of some sort and he follows it through - regardless of the outcome. This particular situation was in the game where kush thought one of him / Epishade has to be mafia! The critical part is the fact that his change of reads is actually based on something!

Here is an example from this game:

I originally read kush scum purely because of process of elimination. Last night when i got home I thought one of Sn0, Onegu or kush is mafia. I read Sn0's filter. town. I read Onegu's filter. town. I didn't even go to read kush's filter because i do not have to - noone else can be mafia.

I voted for kush and later on made a post where i explain my reads. kush in not paying attention to this game any more. Hasn't done so after D1.

Here's the kicker; kush's read on me. I vote for kush and start pushing his lynch. kush has me as town. Has had since the beginning of the game. He even defended me against Koshi on D3. Here:
On August 18 2014 02:15 kushm4sta wrote:
nah koshi u dont get best townplay 2014 for this shit game. no one does cause this game doesn't even count.
plus even if you were you would be blundering it away now probably with your current notion that rayn is scum.

Suddenly after this - when other people vote for him he joint the wagon on me. Because of what? No reasoning. Nothing. Now this would be reasonable for some people (vote for the other target because you know you are town and blabla.. you get it) but NOT for kush, as i pointed out. This proves he is mafia.

On the other hand he has been soft-pushing Sn0dude all game long. But there is no reason Sn0 should be mafia because Sn0 has been pushing MAFIA all game long. If kush had read the thread he would know this is the fact and he would read Sn0 town. This proves he is mafia.

Suddenly when people tell why Sn0 is town kush makes this post:
On August 17 2014 13:00 kushm4sta wrote:
k maybe onegu is scum rather than ve

So now maybe Onegu is scum. Why?
On August 17 2014 14:05 kushm4sta wrote:
@onegu true i haven't loooked into you. the thing that made me think you were possibly scum is you are calling VE confirmed medic..

It really doesn't matter to scum VE that there are 3 mislynches instead of 2, because if there wasn't a nokill, VE was going to be one of those 2 anyway.
exactly what haru just said. im just saying it again because i want to.

HE HASN'T EVEN READ ONEGU'S POSTS! HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY HE IS CALLING HIM SCUM!!!
This proves kush is mafia.

Also Onegu. Onegu is not mafia because of what happened on D2. Onegu was pushing batsnacks and the other way around. They literally just pushed each other and not really considered any other lynches. Onegu's vote (he was the first to vote for bats) proves. Which kind of retarded mafia team busses and does NOTHING but busses each other when they do not have to????? None. Onegu, and everyone else being town proves kush is mafia.

There. Case closed. Now go vote for the scum dude.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:49 GMT
#1521
Except that he voted for him and only after MM1 lynch was brought up (by someone else) he started considering switching his vote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 13:50 GMT
#1522
Like Koshi do you seriously think my game plan was to "hey you jsut keep your vote on Onegu then i try to push MM1 - when the push is starting to succeed i'll let go and just bus you to death and you try to vote for MM1".

lol
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 14:26 GMT
#1526
Yet a vote is closer to a push than anything other that has no vote in it. If you don't realize that it makes you bad at this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 14:30 GMT
#1529
On August 18 2014 23:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
VE's literaklly a billion percent scum idiots stahp infighting.

@Koshi I wanted to lynch rayn super bad at the beginning of today reading ur post then I looked at the votes and rayn basically has had super lots of opportunity to (safely) ruin a lynch on scum twice in a row (both lynches were exactly the required amount of votes no spares) and didn't. I feel like he's town.

Look Koshi this guy is smart.
Way smarter than you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#1533
I'll be a better person and stop this now. You are ignored Koshi.

I wil lalso tell you all i will go back to "not listening to anything anyone else says and push my reads into oblivion" because in the last three games people have ignored all the important shit i have said and it has made me doubt myself in my reads. The only people i will listen after this are marv, Palmar and some other people i think are reasonable and can actually act reasonable throughout the game.

Have fun arguing with me. I tried to play differently, apparently i have been terrible except that my vote has been on scum at the end of day in ~75% of all day phases after my break.

I am voting for mafia right now and you all should do the same. If you don't, idgaf. Then you can go lose the game. idgaf about that either. kush is mafia and we are lynching him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:05 GMT
#1540
On August 18 2014 23:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
With 1 less vote we don't lynch bsnax.
There's literally 1 living person who didn't vote bsnax.

VE MUST be scum. Its actually trivial.

Sno vote kush today. I guarantee you i will sheep you onto VE the next day which will never come.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:38 GMT
#1548
VE is right it does not make any sense.
Why do people keep being dumb? Like do you guys have some "must lynch this guy so he CANNOT POSSIBLY WIN THE GAME" obsession so you cannot see the obvious?

yes i am serious.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:40 GMT
#1550
VE it's certainly possible sloosh has asked kush if they realy want to concede on D2.
And that's why he posted the "just joking" stuff.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:42 GMT
#1553
I don't care on whose shitlist i am on because the game ends when kush gets lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:46 GMT
#1555
Look at me not caring.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:51 GMT
#1558
On August 19 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
So to clarify, Kush hammered his scumbuddy d2 in a contested lynch? Seems unlikely.

No it isn't. If he doesn't vote for bats he's basically claiming mafia in case anyone of the non-bats voters comes in and votes for bats.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 18 2014 15:51 GMT
#1559
...and when he votes for bats there is no way he can back off from that any more, whatever happens.
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