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On July 30 2014 08:16 JennyHell wrote: You've seen my mouth? Now I'm a bit creeped out.. Did you hack in to the snapchat I sent to Poofter with my mouth on it?! Nah. You would be amazed if you knew how easy is to find someone's twitter typing little information on google search | ||
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GlowingBear
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Not creepy, you answered me that you had an annoying mouth and I was curious what that might be. Lol o.O | ||
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On July 30 2014 09:01 JennyHell wrote: Highly doubt you actually found me, since my twitter handle isn't even close to my handle here. https://mobile.twitter.com/Frintard Is that you? | ||
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I'll bring my visions soon enough. It's just the style I play. I mean, it's still the first 24 hours... | ||
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Took 2 seconds to find it. Not stalker at all. Googled: jennyhell daily mafia. Second link. | ||
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But I think you're OMGUSing, Jenny, mostly because I found your twitter  | ||
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This post from Seeyalater caugt my attention: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:37 Seeyalater wrote: I don't know, he just seems a little TOO eager, you know what I mean? Like going off so hard to get people to like him(including cute pictures as well!) makes me not trust him too much. Not calling him mafia or anything, just my top scum from what has been happening here so far! Are you his partner Jenny? :o Bolded part is weird. He says that he is not calling Teemu mafia but that he is his top scum. Which means that Teemu is probably mafia by his point of view? I know that maybe Seeyalater is trying to say that Teemu is leaning mafia, but this also means he is considering him as mafia. From the way I think, this is Seeyalater trying not to be compromised by his reads, not drawing undesired attention. It's him trying to give a read but not giving a read at all. If you're calling someone scum, you're calling someone mafia. Period. If you say that he is your top scum but that you're not calling him mafia, you're saying nothing about someone. Just looks like a mafia attempt to show contribution. And it's in this post that he starts his interaction with Jenny. It doesn't say much with just it alone, but you can view from this angle: if both are scum, by asking this, he is distancing from Jenny, trying to put both on two opposite poles where if one is mafia, another cannot be. + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:47 JennyHell wrote: Do you expect people that are new to mafia in general to be able to say exactly how their play differentiate depending on what role they are when they haven't actually played enough to know themselves yet? Like, if you were to ask seeyalater the same question that you asked me, you'd probably get an even more empty answer, because he hasn't played any yet. It's not only what is said that is important, more so the way it is said. Or is that just me? In this post by Jenny, you can see that she uses Seeyalater as example, in a way that, by defending her, she is also defending him against my accusation of saying nothing at all. Remember: this post alone is a weak reasoning. You have to consider all the interactions I'm going to post to get to the conclusion that they have a strong interaction. + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:55 Seeyalater wrote: Hey don't try to throw scum at me sister! To answer said question, I'm pretty sure no matter the alignment I'd play similarly day 1 to try to figure out who the scummiest people are. Now what I'd do with said info is different though, because as you've noticed I've yet to actually call anyone mafia, just trying to notice who seems the scummiest so far. Not sure if this is you being Mafia trying to throw off scum Jenny, or just a really defensive townie. This is a response from Seeyalater to Jenny. Notice how weird and overreacted that post came. Looks like an unnatural way of distancing, again. Now, after this distancing, look how easily he town reads Jenny: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 05:07 Seeyalater wrote: I was trying to get a reaction from Jenny, who I've been on the fence about, but her recent reply above me seemed somewhat genuine, so I'd say she's my top town at the moment. Do you know which post made him get this read?: + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 04:59 JennyHell wrote: Sorry if it looked like I was trying to make you seem scummy. I was merely pointing out a flaw that I saw in the question he asked me. It really had nothing to do with you, just brought you in as a way to explain the way I viewed it. What, WHAT in this post is so townie that completely changes you perception regarding someone? Do you get how odd this is? Now, THIS IS THE MAIN POINT. Finding the odd contradictions from the first post I quoted from Seeyalater, I decided to push him on it (you can look my post on the nested quote). I've got a response. From him? NOPE, from Jenny! + Show Spoiler + On July 30 2014 05:01 JennyHell wrote: My guess, he starts off reading everyone as town, trying to figure out who is scummy enough to be mafia. So he's saying they're leaning mafia, or the things they said are questionable for a town. Personally I start reading everyone as mafia, and see who proves to me they are towny and can be trusted enough to be in the town circle with me. But that's just my guess. I could be wrong. Why didn't she let him answer my question? More than that, why is she somehow defending him instead of helping me pushing him? His post was odd, we needed to get more information from him. She decides to explain his attitude instead of trying to discover if he got mafia motives! This, for me, is a signal of a possible scum trying to defend his partner. He didn't even got the chance to explain himself BEFORE she posts this. This concludes my short case. I still prefer to Vote for meatpudding because we definitely need him talking. But if meatpudding comes ok to the thread and nothing more suspicious happens, I'm voting for one of these two. | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:08 Teemursu wrote: GB, I'm not going to read your case yet, and I know how you're going to feel like about that (based on last game), but you shouldn't make associative reads on unflipped players. Anyway, wanted to add up on Seeyalater. Like, he's being noncommittal at first (like Poofter called him out for), "agrees" a lot with people, and then makes a list of reads that kind of repeat the same old people have already said. I kind of tunneled hard for Vivax because of this last game, but saying stuff like "How odd.........." without calling a person is mafia is veeerryy scum indicative. You kind of imply that that person is mafia without actually calling them mafia, which lets you a) have your options open b) make it easy to defend yourself and c) not piss anyone off. Making a list like that so early in the game is suspicious as well. I rarely see town have many "good" reads, and I've seen mafia more often sheep everyone's general direction early on. Making a list like that rings to me either fabricating reads or sheeping (which I've pointed out before). Teemu, if you read my "short" case, you'll identify that I AM calling them mafia for that. The ending will make it sure for you. Read from main point to the ending. You'll see that I am not voting them because I prefer to vote lurkers. | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:20 Teemursu wrote: I did read it and I agree that there are some scummy things you pointed out, but I don't think they're BOTH mafia and I wouldn't approach it from that perspective. Hope you didn't think that post was about you, I was talking about Seeyalater. Oh ok. I thought you were talking about my case. Nvm | ||
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On July 30 2014 13:23 Teemursu wrote: GB, what do you think of the people who gave you that very early town read on you? Do you feel like you were trying to "put town on the right track" or something even after the initial question to Jenny? I remember someone town read you for that and I think it's kinda BS (not that I'm calling you mafia). I don't remember those posts, I usually don't like them thanks to you. Anyway, saying that I was trying to put town on the right track is ok. Town reading me only for that is strange. I'll definitely re-read the thread to catch those things, if it doesn't get more than 40 pages lol. Give me your opinion on that, also. | ||
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With a gun. | ||
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On July 30 2014 19:33 meatpudding wrote: Hi Teemu. meat - top town or tt for short banks - town lover jen - the devil is a woman but she's not evil 666 - definitely evil wade - using some pressure cya - too cautious tea - first to post first to kill (we're no strangers to love) gb - logic infallible therefore must have perfect info Lolololol this list is terrible | ||
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On July 31 2014 02:44 Seeyalater wrote: Hmm, was waiting for you to reply as to why that list was terrible, or about what me and Jenny said about your case study, but I guess I'll ask, could you elaborate further? Thank you for asking that. I was waiting for this inquiry. I actually only read Jenny's reply. I have a busy day today and I have yet to read yours. But Iime Jenny's rey, sounded leaning town. I only need her to tell me her top scums right now. About the list, I want you to see how meatpudding brings no reasoning at all when posting his reads. "666 = evil but townie"? Says you are pushing but I am mafia because I have infallible logic due to perfect information? I could town pass anyone with perfect information, so I wouldn't need to push both of you like that. Town passing for no reason is exactly what he does in that list, and that's why it is terrible. What I'm trying to say is be could at least post a brief reasoning, even if wrong, like he did in my scum read. He, instead, reads multiple people as town for no reason at all. Just for the sake of "contributing" | ||
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On July 31 2014 03:36 Teemursu wrote: Also the activity level of this game seems to be like waaaay lower than the other newbie game I played in.. I am not posting as much because I'm really, really busy. I can't analyse the thread now. I'm only keeping up. What do you think of poof, Teemu? | ||
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On July 31 2014 03:35 Teemursu wrote: You vote on me without explaining why you think I'm mafia, without addressing any of the 90% of the content I came up with earlier? How do you suppose I'm able to read you as nothing but scum? He wrote a case on you before that post if I remember correctly | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:38 JennyHell wrote: O lilwade, lilwade! wherefore art thou lilwade? Seriously, where are you and give us more to go from, because you're looking mighty fine to be among the top scum right now. Jenny, give me your 2 top scums with brief reasoning please. | ||
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On July 31 2014 04:59 JennyHell wrote: I'm currently trying to go through it all again, seeing if there are groups formed somewhere. It's extremely difficult but I have some groups already in my head, I'll bring them up in another post. To answer GB. My current 2 top scum is lilwade and DC, They were both active from the start but have fallen off. My guess, new players to mafia doesn't want to draw too much attention to themselves so they're trying to coast along without disagreeing too much with other people, which is what lilwade was doing with almost apologizing for his reads and I don't want use the word sheeping but agreeing with others reads without bringing much to the table himself. DC's reads have been fuller and more to point, "better"? if you will, than lilwade's, but I dislike his sudden lack of activity and hope he will chime in soon. If I were to give a third it'd be meatpudding, for barely being here at all and the time he was here he didn't give much. Alright, I like you. Putting you inside my town circle. As for the others, their activity is okay, IMO. I only find meatpudding activity very low. He kept saying he was catching up, so I was expecting a bigger read, but then he gives us that terrible list and goes back into lurking. I'm keeping my vote on him. Teemu, it's not your work, but can you quote the posts you've made about Seeyalater? I'm asking that because I'm not filter diving anyone today due to lack of time. | ||
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