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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 24 2014 16:30 GMT
#1627
On July 25 2014 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 25 2014 01:14 Xatalos wrote:
rayn, why was your vote on me all day even if you never really pursued lynching me and barely even talked about me for the latter half of your filter?

I wasn't gonna vote for you.
As far as i got i would have voted for GlowingBear, damdred or Navillus.


If your vote had been the decisive vote to lynch me, I'd be pretty angry at you right now. Why leave the vote on me earlier and go AFK?

Oh well, I was saved in the end anyway.

And I doubt you're scum either.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 24 2014 16:32 GMT
#1630
Btw complaining about the moved deadline and such isn't really going to help anyone. What's done is done.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:16 GMT
#2012
On July 25 2014 16:27 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 16:16 Teemursu wrote:
On July 25 2014 10:29 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't understand why we lynched Navillus instead of Xatalos. Chopin, can you explain to me why you thought Xatalos was town all of a sudden?

CR, did Chopin answer this?


Not yet


He did explain this... You still haven't elaborated on your scumread of me/Koshi? Could you explain it now?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:19 GMT
#2013
On July 25 2014 01:54 Teemursu wrote:
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On July 25 2014 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also for the record i have my 30th birthday this Sunday sodon't expect me to be quite active during tomorrow, Saturday and Sunday. If it's a problem you might just aswell vig me because i will get mad at people who call me mafia "for lurking". I'll read & post whenever i can but this game is not going to be my priority at that time.

That being said Teemu / Xatalos. Are you guys (living?) in Helsinki during weekend? Let's meetup, i'll bring the champagne.


I live in Espoo, so basically yeah. Sounds cool!


I might have time tomorrow? Possibly. I live in Espoo/Helsinki, currently Espoo.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:24 GMT
#2016
I think Haru's claim thingy is probably town motivated. At least I can imagine myself in his position doing something like that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:28 GMT
#2018
We'll see. In any case it's a WIFOM bomb to confuse the scumQT. I've never seen stuff like that done by scum, I think.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:32 GMT
#2019
ObiWan seems kind of frank by saying that he has no scumreads though. I'd think scum would at least put in a little effort by naming some suspects? Isn't that just kind of like begging for attention to yourself?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:40 GMT
#2021
I don't really see what's scummy about posting a listpost when asked. Lists aren't inherently scummy. It's just scummy when you post a list with rehashed information to appear like you're doing something. My list was 1) made to answer a request 2) not rehashed in any way. So why is it so scummy? Not saying that it's townish either.

I didn't say Koshi wouldn't be a good D1 lynch because of anything he said? It's just that apparently he's often a bit suspicious on D1 so it might be too early to judge him then.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:49 GMT
#2026
That was a joke, yes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:52 GMT
#2028
On July 25 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
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On July 24 2014 21:05 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 21:05 Xatalos wrote:
On July 24 2014 21:02 Koshi wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:57 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I could really lynch Cav as well. Damn. I fucking told him to be more friendly and buddy me in a previous game.

He is out of my sacred townlist.
On July 23 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:36 HaruRH wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:32 Chairman Ray wrote:
On July 23 2014 18:22 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
Koshi flies solo this game.

[quote]
I am talking only about the listpost. Not the entrance tbh. That one was legit bad.


I don't think the list thing is alignment indicative. What gives you the impression that it's town?


Because koshi makes these listposts too and he dont want to be seen as a hypocrite for criticising it since he will do it too

All these people are already bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
ObiWanShinobi
Navillus
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred

I need to keep this updated for endgame gloating.
Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
Xatalos
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi

I apologize to all my fans that I have to put somebody from the townlist straight into the can lynch list. These are grave mistakes.

Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred
Palmar
VayneAuthority
raynpelikoneet
GlowingBear

Probably town but what can I do:
Xatalos

Special mention:
Chairman Ray

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
Chopin Liszt

------


Town MVP after game = thx.
I have a bad feeling Kush also has this list. Hmm. Crazy.


You can stop repeating that Vivax is scum when he's not getting lynched anyway.

Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
Navillus
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred
Palmar
VayneAuthority
raynpelikoneet
GlowingBear

Special mention:
Chairman Ray

Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
Chopin Liszt
Xatalos

Like this list is so fucking gold it is scary.

And I had to work with the shitters D1 like Palmar/rayn/VA. GB also dumped some retardation in the thread endgame but what can I do?

Vivax has lied this game so many times. It is scary. And he says so much dumb shit.
Obiwan is his cocky self and refuses to solve this game. Somewhere he changed his play and became this new thing. Out of all people he is probably the best plynch and that means a lot if you have the D1 shitters like Palmar/rayn/VA.
Xatalos has done nothing this game, had most of the votes on him the entire game and then 3h before the lynch. (less because hosts decided to fuck us in the ass) to start softclaiming blue and do nothing else. Then 2 hours before the lynch he claims veteran because he wants to get shot by scum. And then a bit later he claims he was actually just a VT. And in the 3 hours before the lynch he did absolutely nothing except vote Navillus because WHO THE FUCK KNOWS.
Chopin Liszt Isn't off this list till he solves the game. Which is how we always approach marv. Which is why we can talk to him as if he is town. Because he most likely is. Unless he doesn't solve the game. This time he has a retardation handicap. Which will make it really hard for him to be taken serious if he survives the night.


But who do we lynch?

NAVILLUS. WHO COULDN'T be more town if he tried.

LIKE WHERE ARE THE CASES ON NAVILLUS? READ HIS FUCKING FILTER. SO FUCKING TOWN EXCEPT ONE POST. WHICH IS THE ONLY POST ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT.


I think Koshi is quite town and posts like these show how he's "showing his thought process in the thread" like his town meta should be.

(Although I've misread him as town when he's been scum like 3 times now?)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:53 GMT
#2029
On July 25 2014 19:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 19:49 Xatalos wrote:
That was a joke, yes.


Why do I get the feeling your heart raced and you held your breath until turning blue before saying this with a loud expiration.


:D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 10:57 GMT
#2030
Oh yeah, I was supposed to post this a bit earlier, but I ended commenting on other posts instead:

On July 25 2014 00:18 batsnacks wrote:
Ya'll really hourly vote nav... He posted so many words...


On July 25 2014 00:19 batsnacks wrote:
***shouldnt vote nav

This is my last phone post too difficult


This looks like a weak kind-of-defense for Navillus to make batsnacks look better (?) after the flip. I'm reminded of the time when yomi made a similar post close to the lynch in one of my first games (he was scum). Gathering credit pre-emptively? Check. Not *really* doing anything to stop the lynch? Check. Overall apathy towards the lynch? Check.

On July 25 2014 12:04 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah I'm not unhappy with the lynch. I don't really understand why people are freaking out. It could have been way worse than a VT.


I'm kind of confused by this later comment of his. First he's unhappy with the lynch, then it's okay? I can kind of understand that he's glad it was only a VT, but it's such a change in attitude. Was his unhappiness real in the first place...

I think batsnacks' behaviour around the lynch is probably the scummiest. He basically just sheeped, made a weak kind-of-defense for the last leading wagon and didn't really care about the result anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:05 GMT
#2031
I agree that it's stupid to be so unhappy with the lynch, it's just that batsnacks was (apparently) against the lynch in the first place...?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:13 GMT
#2036
:D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:21 GMT
#2038
I think I'm leaning town on Teemursu. He's been pretty active, pushing his reads, getting attention. Not a position that scum would usually assume.

Damdred is slightly scum / null. I wouldn't mind seeing him dead, but I'm not confident enough that I would bet the victory on him being scum. Btw he was pretty passive around the lynch too. He asked me some questions, I answered, he never really followed up. Then he just.... hanged around in the thread and changed his vote to Navillus when the flow of the thread changed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:32 GMT
#2040
I think the fact that I easily gathered 5+ votes, same with Navillus, but it was impossible for ObiWan, might make it more likely that he's actually scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:39 GMT
#2043
On July 25 2014 20:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 20:21 Xatalos wrote:
I think I'm leaning town on Teemursu. He's been pretty active, pushing his reads, getting attention. Not a position that scum would usually assume.

Damdred is slightly scum / null. I wouldn't mind seeing him dead, but I'm not confident enough that I would bet the victory on him being scum. Btw he was pretty passive around the lynch too. He asked me some questions, I answered, he never really followed up. Then he just.... hanged around in the thread and changed his vote to Navillus when the flow of the thread changed.


Would Damdred be your lynch of choice tomorrow or do you think that somebody else is scummier.


Not completely sure yet. Damdred/batsnacks/ObiWan all seem like decent choices, but not especially great. I guess it kind of comes down to process of elimination since by now since I'm leaning town at least on Haru, Koshi, Teemursu, Chopin, rayn, GB, kush, Vivax. The rest are closer to null or even slightly scummy. I'd wager that most of the scum are among the rest.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:41 GMT
#2044
On July 25 2014 20:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 20:32 Xatalos wrote:
I think the fact that I easily gathered 5+ votes, same with Navillus, but it was impossible for ObiWan, might make it more likely that he's actually scum.


Assume for a moment that ObiWan can be town, too. Why would scum want to lynch him over Navi when either choice doesn't hurt them at all.


?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:44 GMT
#2048
Hm. I don't think scum would care that much which townie got lynched. At least I wouldn't care as scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9673 Posts
July 25 2014 11:47 GMT
#2050
On July 25 2014 20:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 20:39 Xatalos wrote:
On July 25 2014 20:32 Vivax wrote:
On July 25 2014 20:21 Xatalos wrote:
I think I'm leaning town on Teemursu. He's been pretty active, pushing his reads, getting attention. Not a position that scum would usually assume.

Damdred is slightly scum / null. I wouldn't mind seeing him dead, but I'm not confident enough that I would bet the victory on him being scum. Btw he was pretty passive around the lynch too. He asked me some questions, I answered, he never really followed up. Then he just.... hanged around in the thread and changed his vote to Navillus when the flow of the thread changed.


Would Damdred be your lynch of choice tomorrow or do you think that somebody else is scummier.


Not completely sure yet. Damdred/batsnacks/ObiWan all seem like decent choices, but not especially great. I guess it kind of comes down to process of elimination since by now since I'm leaning town at least on Haru, Koshi, Teemursu, Chopin, rayn, GB, kush, Vivax. The rest are closer to null or even slightly scummy. I'd wager that most of the scum are among the rest.


Who of the rest is scum then.


I think lynching into Damdred/batsnacks/ObiWan would quite likely result in 1-2 scum lynches.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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