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Chopin, could you elaborate on your Damdred/batsnacks read?
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On July 24 2014 21:36 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 17:36 Teemursu wrote:On July 24 2014 00:47 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 24 2014 00:15 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
alsoalsoalso, why didnät you call out those bad cases on you? you should have been the first one to realize they are shit. I think I did mention that it's stupid to call me "infinitely scummy" for a single listpost, but overall I don't feel like it's inherently scummy to make bad cases. It's D1 after all, good cases are rare. no it's not scummy to make bad cases. that's not what i am suggesting. did you even read my post and what it was referring to? i am not calling anyone mafia for making bad cases. damdred made a posts that really said nothing. he didn't follow that up in any way - even when there were questions which you didn't even answer. Cava called damdred town for that post, then he called you not necessarily scum. first of all that post was not good, second, he cannot give damdred a town read if he does not think you are scummy. because he didn't call the case bad. you either agree with a case or not, he didn't do either but STILL the post was somehow good. like, he semi-agreed with it without saying so. wishy-washy as fuck. Haru called you out for buddying after those two guys. Buddying is not scummy unless you explain why. Stupid as fuck. Teemu called you scummy for who knows why. Now why didn't YOU call these people out for those things? Like do you want people just attack you for dumb shit and do nothing about it? Or scared of saying something that is ACTUALLY scummy? idk.. i just can't see why you would like to have bad cases on you running around without cutting them out straight up. I'm not really worried about being lynched and I know my own alignment, so it's kind of nice to have initial suspicions on me to see how they develop / how other players react. At least it's better than everyone sheeping to some lurker. Plus there isn't really much to say about those posts you mentioned. They're either weak suspicions or not even real suspicions at all. Damdred's post has probably been the most useless one, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if there's scum among this group. On July 24 2014 02:40 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:Oof. Caught up with a little bit of skimming On July 24 2014 02:13 Xatalos wrote:
Oh yeah, GlowingBear was also voting me.
GB: Don't you think basing your scumread on a single listpost (that most people seem to consider as null) is a bit weak? And when you say that "mafia changed the focus" which players are you suggesting did that -> are scum? I do believe that basing my scumread in a single list post is weak. But I think that your follow up was also scum because, as people said before, you don't seem like to scum hunt at any point of the game. This, summed up with the problems I noticed on your post, makes my scumread at you. I don't have a good idea of which players, as town could've brought another case and scum tried to hop on the wagon to disrupt attention, or mafia could've started it and townies jumped on. But if I had to guess, I'd guess shinobi is mafia for saying "god, no discussion" when I added a case on your list post (which could be read as a good case or bad case, whatever - it was at least a discussion starter). Even after that, he tried to change the focus to discuss a policy lynch on Chopin. Lol. Let's discuss policies lynch but ignore a case? Nope. Don't you think I've been scumhunting by, for example, trying to discover Vivax's alignment? Oh well. It's true that I've been a bit lazy so far. If you're town, could you stop being lazy and fight this lynch? Who do you think is mafia and why? You haven't given a clear scumread so far. I already accused of you being hypocritical for leaving your "options open" while accusing Navi for the same thing. Now that I read through your filter properly, I haven't seen you push ANYONE. Could you, please? I feel like you're given all the chance to prove you're town and fight the lynch, but instead you're going down like you've accepted it already. Your whole filter is just random fluff with no direction. It's such a bore to try to read it.
I don't have strong confidence in anyone being scum. Damdred and batsnacks look the worst atm.
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I don't see a reason to claim.
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I guess it's appropriate to say that ObiWan hasn't been very interested in the result of the lynch. It appears I'm slightly town (?) to him but it doesn't matter if I'm lynched anyway...
"Xatalos looks pretty dead with/without my input, but the last couple of posts I got from him seemed okay, I guess. Maybe I'm biased because he wasn't trying to murder me. Not a read I'd be super confident in pushing, at any rate."
That's pretty bad actually...
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I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum.
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how?
More information to help with night kill decisions.
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On July 24 2014 22:33 Chopin Liszt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:32 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 22:32 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote:
I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how? More information to help with night kill decisions. If you die now then there is no more information.
My death isn't yet decided.
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There's still 2 hours of time before the lynch?
Well, I can lynch ObiWan. He showed little interest in me being the main wagon despite (slightly?) townreading me.
##Unvote
##Vote ObiWan
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On July 24 2014 22:41 Chopin Liszt wrote:
I hope Damdred isn't going to just drop that -> leave.
Well, he did say that he's going to "be here all day".
Hm, what have I missed? Apparently Damdred asked me some question earlier?
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Damdred, I did answer that kush thing earlier I think. And the other question was just a non-question.
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On July 24 2014 22:51 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 22:46 Xatalos wrote:
Damdred, I did answer that kush thing earlier I think. And the other question was just a non-question. Then why ignore the mass posts earlier in the thread against you? And why only bring them up when you are poked and prodded? Honestly its dumb, if you think they are such shit posts then you should of totally decimated the posts and deconstructed them and at least replied to it.
Alright, then let's "decimate" your post.
On July 23 2014 10:53 Damdred wrote:Heres my thoughts about Xatalos right now, hes just seems a bit odd to me right now. Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication. This doesn't say anything about my alignment.Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 05:55 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 05:34 Vivax wrote:On July 23 2014 03:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I'll join the random lynch thing.
I just saw Christ the Redeemer far away, and it looks like a T.
Therefore:
##Vote: Teemursu
Die. On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Sigh Gut wise I don't like these entrances. I can see what you're getting at with that comment. Both of these posts are kind of apathetic. In any case, it's not much to work with. I'm town anyways and GB could be just playing around a bit. Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool. I didn't even really defend myself there, I just voiced my opinion that I could understand his gut reaction but it didn't really say much of anything about anything.Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this: On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy. Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that. If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both. ##Vote: Xatalos I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking. What does this mean? Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches. But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their? Naturally I would lynch Koshi if he was actually really scummy. It's just that him being a bit suspicious D1 is supposed to be his town meta, so that's not a good basis to lynch him. "Bit weird" isn't really an accusation anyway, but I'll just say that he was talking about lynching me+Koshi so I talked about me+Koshi. What's even weird about that?Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 06:38 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 06:26 Koshi wrote:
I think you are out of your mind if you think we had the most awkward conversation ever. I said "how happy are you I am town". How am I here being awkward?
Xatalos his answer might have been odd. But how can you say that even I am scummy? What kind of insane connection is that CR? Why isn't Xatalos scummy that can't reply to my awesome trick question???
Hmmmm? Your side of the conversation was fine, but that's to be expected of you whether you are scum or not. Xatalos was not fine. He pocketed you for the weirdest reason at the weirdest time. I'm leaning towards scum pocketing scum rather than scum pocketing town. As a sidenote, I'm extremely careful not to connect myself with my teammates as scum. You can see me bussing / semi-bussing / distancing my teammates in pretty much every game. I would never fake a friendly conversation with my teammate as scum, at least right away. This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town? The point of meta is that it's not so easy to change your behaviour at will. Otherwise it'd be impossible to ever catch scum.Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes. Being a low hanging fruit doesn't make you town and it's often a good choice not to lynch very active posters for D1. Naturally the most scummy player should be lynched, but if it's an "equal" choice between an active and inactive player, the more active player should be spared IMO. In addition, activity is usually townish in itself.Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far.
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Uh, what? Both to Koshi's vote and GB's vote.
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On July 24 2014 23:16 kushm4sta wrote:
what the fuck are you guys doing! xatalos is obv town. obiwan is also town.
Well then, who to lynch?
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On July 24 2014 23:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 23:17 Xatalos wrote:
Uh, what? Both to Koshi's vote and GB's vote. Tell us your role.
Sorry but no. If you want to lynch me for not telling, I don't know what to say.
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On July 24 2014 23:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2014 23:20 Xatalos wrote:On July 24 2014 23:17 Koshi wrote:On July 24 2014 23:17 Xatalos wrote:
Uh, what? Both to Koshi's vote and GB's vote. Tell us your role. Sorry but no. If you want to lynch me for not telling, I don't know what to say. Xatalos. Tell us your fucking role. I am 100% town and I am 100% certain this is the best way to play this atm.
There's no point in claiming especially now. Maybe closer to the deadline. But now it would only help scum without probably even changing the situation that much.
Where did Chopin, Palmar and rayn disappear to?
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On July 24 2014 23:28 kushm4sta wrote:
##unvote
##vote xatalos
if you dont claim now you get lynched.
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On July 24 2014 23:34 kushm4sta wrote:
xatalos I hate when people wait till the last second to claim and put everybody in a fucking panic. it's so anti town and stressful and annoying. Claim immediately or I am going to leave the thread with my vote on you and feel good about it even though I think you're town.
If you claim I will consider your claim and I will probably try to get someone else lynched.
I think it's the opposite. Quick and hectic situations are the best for figuring out who the scum are.
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I'm a Passenger OR a Prepared Passenger. That should be enough information, although I think it's already too much.
Happy?
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Whatever. The damage is already done. I'm just PASSENGER (VT). I was trying to bait scum into shooting me at night but now it'll be impossible.
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