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On July 23 2014 20:39 Vivax wrote:
It's cool that your opinion differs Koshi but I don't see why you spend so much talking about townreads and mechanics and the terrible idea of vets claiming when you don't have an own scumread to push behind it that warrants you taking the wind out of other peoples sails to push your own preference.
##unvote
##vote: Vivax
Bite me.
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On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible.
What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something.
In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread?
Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game.
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On July 23 2014 20:49 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:46 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible. What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something. In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread? Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game. Palmar?
Palmar hasn't done anything this game. Literally nothing. I wouldn't be too bothered with Palmar doing nothing but he made this shitty case on Navillus so he is on the table.
I also know I somewhere said it wasn't shitty but now I think it is shitty because I read Navillus his filter.
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On July 23 2014 20:51 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:46 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible. What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something. In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread? Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game. This is a very hyperbole statement about navi and displays you're not critically reading his posts, I am sure you can back up that he's doing exactly that with quotes if you are indeed right.
What are you even saying?
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On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.
tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing.
When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing.
what he was doing > what you were doing.
lynching him < lynching you
It's math.
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On July 23 2014 21:01 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 20:49 Xatalos wrote:On July 23 2014 20:46 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote:
Koshi: Navillus has posted a ton of opinions, but don't you think they're pretty inconclusive and weak? Granted it's D1, but some of his posts feel like... "It could be X, but it could be Y" leaving his options as open as possible. What the fuck do you expect that early? At least he is doing something. In how many games is scum giving their opinion on literally everybody and anything that happens in the game as only one in the thread? Palmar / Vivax are probably scum this game. Palmar? Palmar hasn't done anything this game. Literally nothing. I wouldn't be too bothered with Palmar doing nothing but he made this shitty case on Navillus so he is on the table. I also know I somewhere said it wasn't shitty but now I think it is shitty because I read Navillus his filter. What about his case was shitty?
He didn't take into account any other post Navillus made. Navillus was at that point already asking mass questions. Navillus was not timid. Navillus was not hiding.
Navillus gave his opinion and asked MULTIPLE questions in different posts later on. Everything Palmar said sounded correct if you look at that 1 post from Navillus. But if you open his filter you can clearly see that Palmar pulled the post out of its context.
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When I say later on. I meant before he made that post Palmar based his case on.
And those questions were not made to be ignored.
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On July 23 2014 21:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:01 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 20:55 Vivax wrote:
I'm saying that what you say isn't correct. He talks about post formatting and Xatalos, and replies to a guy asking him about someone else in the first posts you quoted as being townie and giving his thoughts freely.
tl;dr: The reasons you use for reading him seem fake, and what you said in the last post I quoted is a gross exaggeration of what he's supposedly doing. When he was doing that. You were doing completely nothing. what he was doing > what you were doing. lynching him < lynching you It's math. Scum agenda equals simulating town agenda while opting for mislynches. It's logic.
I like how you think that Koshi is harddefending his scumpartner here. Which you are implying in the last 2 posts you made.
And when I say like. I mean hahahaha, You scum.
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Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.
Good thinking.
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On July 23 2014 21:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.
Good thinking. When did you decide to scumread me?
When I voted you.
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On July 23 2014 21:27 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:22 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 21:20 Vivax wrote:On July 23 2014 21:19 Koshi wrote:
Yes, as scum I really like going hard against Vivax/Palmar to gain cred by Navillus.
Good thinking. When did you decide to scumread me? When I voted you. And the reason is that I'm not doing anything while navi is doing something? In that case, why not vote me earlier?
Is this conversation really happening?
*yawn*
Wake me up when you got something interesting to say Vivax.
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On July 23 2014 21:41 Vivax wrote:
Koshi runs away with the tail between his legs.
This proves that you didn't need the answer to that question.
Which isn't a surprise because it was a completely stupid question.
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On July 23 2014 21:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:44 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 21:41 Vivax wrote:
Koshi runs away with the tail between his legs. This proves that you didn't need the answer to that question. Which isn't a surprise because it was a completely stupid question. It's not, I'm making inquiries about your scumread on me. You dropped that vote when I posted something about you, then said it was cause I didn't do anything while navi was doing something. I derped around when I sheeped Palmar's case, if derping around is the reason for your scumread on me, then it should have happened at that point.
Why would I be following your every move every fucking second of this game?
I was ignoring your useless ass but then you said something really stupid and I voted you. That's why it was then and not earlier. I would like to believe Town Vivax would understand that. As if you would ever scumread me for ignoring your useless ass, but now that I am voting you, you are trying to paint me scummy for ignoring your useless ass early.
So yeah.
you scum.
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I am not the one being red here.
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On July 23 2014 22:32 Vivax wrote:
Lynch today: Koshi/navi/Xata/chopin
Don't lynch: Everyone else.
Ok. Not moving my vote ever.
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On July 23 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:06 Koshi wrote:
When I say later on. I meant before he made that post Palmar based his case on.
And those questions were not made to be ignored. I don't see it. The two posts you quoted and used to defended him based on him "not trying to hide anything" is because there's almost nothing to hide. Like, literally. His reads on CL and Damdred were just fluffy null there wasn't anything about him trying to figure out people's alignment. Xata was okay, but everyone already discussed it and the reasons. For some reason, repeating what everyone else has said about a post that happened almost six hours ago doesn't give me enough town cred for me to read that person as town. Especially when the post Palmar made a case about was in my opinion bad as well. You then go on to quoting post-Palmar's case stuff, that 1) aren't relevant 2) I can somewhat agree and helps me read Palmar. "I'm still leaving my options open about him, though". I want to hear from Koshi what he specifically liked about Navillus's posts pre-Palmar's case besides just saying "he's not hiding anything", which isn't enough considering how null Navillus's posts were.I also want to hear from CL about the switch from agreeing with Palmar's case on Navillus, voting on Navillus, and then asking everyone else why Navillus is being lynched and saying he has "potential" (while Nav hadn't even had time to respond yet).
Navillus typed words when nobody was typing words.
I give him a townread.
The end.
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itt: Vivax confirming me town when lynched.
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On July 23 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:36 HaruRH wrote:On July 23 2014 18:32 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 18:22 Koshi wrote:On July 23 2014 18:04 Palmar wrote:
Kosher might be mafia for not instasheeping my case Koshi flies solo this game. On July 23 2014 18:18 Chairman Ray wrote:On July 23 2014 17:23 Koshi wrote:
I wonder if people really think that Xatalos made that post and was serious about it. Silly guys.
Anyhoezels. Only 3 scummers. If you think scum makes a entrance post like Xatalos in this game as scum I don't know what to say... Unless you can proof he is going for the too scummy to be scum tactic. And I think Xatalos can't do that.
So Xatalos confirmed town. What are the two posts you are referring to? I am talking only about the listpost. Not the entrance tbh. That one was legit bad. I don't think the list thing is alignment indicative. What gives you the impression that it's town? Because koshi makes these listposts too and he dont want to be seen as a hypocrite for criticising it since he will do it too All these people are already bad lynches for D1: HaruRH teemursu ObiWanShinobi Navillus GlowingBear kushm4sta batsnacks Damdred
I need to keep this updated for endgame gloating.
Bad lynches for D1:
HaruRH
teemursu
ObiWanShinobi
Navillus
Xatalos
kushm4sta
batsnacks
Damdred
Really good lynches for D1:
Vivax
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On July 23 2014 23:17 Vivax wrote:
I mean, if he thinks I'm not being blunt and only applies it to how I handle Koshi purely based on the wording of my post, but not to the way I handled navi, then something is not right. I feel like I was blunt enough in regard to what I think of navi, yet he only prefers to focus on the last half.
I like how I gave "shitty" townreads on multiple people already. But you seem to only focus on the Navillus one.
I mean it is annoying that I am ruining an easy misslynch here. But you should have been less obvious about it Vivax.
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It was an horrible case. If it would have been Navillus his first post, then I would agree more with Palmar. But now it was good looking case in a vacuum. But not a good case if you open Navillus his filter.
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