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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 14:51 GMT
#3029
Nope.

Because I can see a world in which you and Obiwan are scum. Which I thought from the start. But yeah. Hosts and deadlines.

Also Chopin is also still somewhere doing stuff.

Anyway. Game is far from solved.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 14:52 GMT
#3031
I have seen town also make sheepable cases. And I had that idea that CR had before he had it.

I am pretty sure I somewhere said before Cr posted that "nono we lynch VA today"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 14:54 GMT
#3033
I did not get it yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:10 GMT
#3040
On July 28 2014 00:09 Vivax wrote:
Anyway it's a massive dumpster scum case, and most people sheeped it and believed it just for all that effort I put into it, and all the scum motives I made up.

Yet at the end of a 200 pages game, I only had like 6 pages of filter, and nobody imagined me being scum (not knowing my town meta well).

That's really cool. If only your D1 mass posting was filled will lies and silly traps that looked coming from scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:12 GMT
#3041
On July 28 2014 00:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Quick case on Xatalos:

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2014 01:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:51 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote:
On July 27 2014 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2014 00:40 Koshi wrote:
The problem is that all other lynches are people marv said are town Xatalos/VA and all his preferred lynches are people I think are town aka Damdred/Obiwan.


Maybe we should find common ground and lynch Vivax.


Why do you read damdred as town?

It's not that he is a shining beacon of townyness. But read the first post on the second and third page of his filter. I can see a town making those. Same for everything in between.

Is he really that scummy? I don't see it tbh.


He is suspicious. He really is. But check your main scum filters. Doesn't it looks like mislynching damdred is part of mafias agenda? Really, look how there is a timid scumread on damdred day one that continues on and on. Timid scumreads. Like people are trying to make townies go against him creating big cases, leading a mislynch and getting mislynched the other day.

Do you get what I'm trying to say here?

Yes. That's why I am being overconfident saying he is town . To balance the sneaky mafia agenda.


Alright, so, if you ALSO believe this, you should be voting Xatalos because he has been doing that since the beginning of the game.


I mean (1) lots of fluff, (2) being hard defended by a possible mafia, (3) almost no scum hunt on his filter and (4) contributing with the timid scumread on damdred, (5) being saved, continues to post fluff without Scumhunting. Don't you think there are reasons enough?


These are the main reasons I've brought up. There's a (6), which is his strange reads on rayn. Follow me (big quotes on spoilers)

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet

Sigh


LOL only joking right lololol why not?

Now to his list post:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 06:18 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 06:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
The exchange between Xatalos and Koshi is the most awkward and forced conversation I have ever seen, especially this:

On July 23 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos it has been a while. I am town this game. You must be so happy.


Hmm. I think I want you to live longer than D1 just for the "Mafia totes alive guis" mass PM. That, and my history of reading you is horrible. I have the vague idea that someone explained your meta to me in a recent game so I'll search for that.


If we had two lynches, I'd lynch them both.

##Vote: Xatalos


I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking.

What does this mean?


Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches.

Interesting.

Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend?


HaruRH - don't remember him, not really for or against lynching him D1

Koshi - against lynching him D1

teemursu - see HaruRH

Chopin Liszt - see HaruRH

VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not

raynpelikoneet - definitely not a D1 lynch unless he somehow is really scummy (doubtful regardless of his alignment)

ObiWanShinobi - see HaruRH

Navillus - see HaruRH

GlowingBear - see HaruRH

kushm4sta - hmmm.... I think he's quite a good scum player so I'd rather see until later to judge him

Chairman Ray - see HaruRH

Vivax - no special feelings towards him although I do remember that he was pretty obviously scummy in one game, we'll see

batsnacks - see HaruRH

Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling

Palmar - see raynpelikoneet


If there wasn't enough reasons to bash on his post, rayn is confirmed mafia. Now look how he reserves the "definetely not a lynch on day1" to rayn. I would like you to remember his positioning against Damdred here, too. Weird enough?

Ok, so, there is a series of posts where rayn timid pushes Xatalos but never putting his hand on fire. He actually, at some point, only says that Xatalos' posts are bad but without reasons. I had to ask him to give reasons. And we are talking about rayn. He timid pushes Xatalos but never vote him. Here is an example, I'll ask you to open the nested quote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2014 02:49 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 02:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 24 2014 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 24 2014 02:30 Xatalos wrote:
GB's confidence in me being scum is actually pretty shocking. It's like he initially decided that I would be his vote target and proceeded to search for justification to keep his vote on me. There is literally no consideration for me possibly being town in his filter. In his latest post he confidently states that "mafia changed the attention away from Xatalos". This is some really stupid confirmation bias or a hopeless scum mislynch push. I think it's actually more likely coming from scum since it feels... forced. Especially his great confidence in his read right after the game had just started.

I don't like this post for multiple reasons.


I hate when you post like this. Explain?

First two sentences are totally wrong and if Xatalos thinks so he needs to justify it which he has not done.
Why can't mafia change atttention out of mafia? I mean obviously, regardless of Xatalos' alignment he "reads himself" as town and says so, but that's not any proof of what ACTUALLY happened.
Where is the conf bias?
Confidence is not a scumtell unless he explains why.


Obviously scum can change attention away from scum. It was just that he was so certain (somehow) of me being scum that he assumed that's what's actually happened... which felt weird. Besides, I still have a lot of attention and it's not like I'm trying to hide or anything?

Could be town confidence I guess. It's just the way how he's been +1'ing suspicions on me so eagerly. Is it in line with the level of his scumread's reasoning? I think it's a bit too much.


I'll stop here because I've made my point and I don't have enough time before deadline.

Also, I was trying to further analyse this but there are no nighpost/daypost on the OP and there are not recent vote counts. It makes difficult to go deeper. I think people gave up on this game already.

##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos



Hmm. Xatalos coming into this game with a vote on rayn and harddefending him in a silly listpost actually looks town to me.

:o
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:13 GMT
#3043
Meh. I disagree.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:19 GMT
#3051
Yes. Somewhere I think marv/GB could be scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:19 GMT
#3053
I really want to lynch marv but w.e


Who here thinks CR is scummy? If CR really is scummy we could lynch CR I guess.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:28 GMT
#3067
On July 28 2014 00:23 Xatalos wrote:
CR did have one pretty townie post I think. It's not impossibly hard to pretend for a moment though, and he has been quite opportunistic / casually lurking all game.

This is a lie. CR can't play actively multiple hours a day. Always a bit and sometimes he is gone for a long time. This is as both alignments.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:29 GMT
#3070
On July 28 2014 00:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah. CR.

##Unvote
##Vote: Chairman Ray


Yeah, I'm a bit messy this game

Dude.....

You think Xatalos/Choping are scum and you are voting with them?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:30 GMT
#3073
On July 28 2014 00:29 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote:
On July 28 2014 00:23 Xatalos wrote:
CR did have one pretty townie post I think. It's not impossibly hard to pretend for a moment though, and he has been quite opportunistic / casually lurking all game.

This is a lie. CR can't play actively multiple hours a day. Always a bit and sometimes he is gone for a long time. This is as both alignments.


But when he comes online he just kind of points neat cases / summaries at opportune times?

How is it opportune??? I know for a fact CR has limited time to play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:31 GMT
#3075
GlowingBear WHY ARE YOU VOTING WITH Xatalos?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:38 GMT
#3088
On July 28 2014 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 00:31 Koshi wrote:
GlowingBear WHY ARE YOU VOTING WITH Xatalos?


Dude, I didn't see that Rayn kept his vote on Xatalos. Why he would do that if he was scum?
Besides, don't you think CR's case on Xatalos was suspicious?

... 1 wifomy thingie and you change your entire mind.

knowing how you said that my case on both VA and marv was wifom and should be ignored.



You don't play very consistent.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:39 GMT
#3091
On July 28 2014 00:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2014 00:32 batsnacks wrote:
I can feel it, it's day 1 all over again. Everything was fine then 30 minutes before deadline everyone decides they can't handle it and loses their minds.


I know, I'm still double questioning myself in fear that I will save a scummer from a lynch and thus am offering my sword in vassalage to Koshi.

Only question remains if Koshi has the balls to think he's the most right of all and accept my sword.

Really, though, CR reminds me a bit of myself from LVIII, but koshi is sure he's busy x hours a day or something as either alignment.

I will not vote CR. Never. All scummy people are on him.

Chopin doesn't want to vote VA
GB votes with his supertopscumread Xatalos on who he could make an insane long case because rayn kept his vote on Xatolos.
VA is voting CR.
Xatalos is on CR.


Never.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:41 GMT
#3092
Rayn/CR killed all inactive people???

NEVER.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#3111
On July 28 2014 00:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Happy koshi?
I mean, why are we not lynching Shopping list?

They are afk right before the EoD. Don't you think they are just letting town killing themselves?

I get marv won me enough games to let him explain himself. I agree he might not be the best lynch even though things point to him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 15:53 GMT
#3117
Lynch who you think is scum. omg. How bad are you people?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 16:00 GMT
#3134
If he flips cop I will murder you all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 16:10 GMT
#3150
hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................................


I always read CR town. meh.

I give up this game.

gg
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#3162
VA can still be scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
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