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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:09 GMT
#2073
And besides, if that was his second lynch of choice, why does he explain what's scummy about everyone but not about Obi.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:12 GMT
#2074
Well, not about everyone actually. He prefers to explain why not the guys that aren't in that list rather than explaining why the guys that are in it.

I just don't know man, how the hell am I supposed to believe he could be town like everyone is saying.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:17 GMT
#2077
On July 25 2014 21:13 Chopin Liszt wrote:
I don't understand how you think he could manage to behave like he has as mafia though.

Chopin


I feel like I have been on good terms with him most of the time, and even got some leeway from him when I was mafia in the previous game, which actually cost them a mislynch.

This game he just doesn't even try to sit back, reconsider and realize I'm town.

Maybe it's a lesson he has drawn from last game but what's stopping me from thinking that is:

If this guy even reconsiders me being scum when I play scum, but doesn't reconsider me being scum when I'm obvious town, and doesn't even try to listen to reason, then that's highly different from when he played town, and that gives me the impression he's scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:19 GMT
#2078
It's like he gets an achievement for lynching me, that's the feeling I get.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:28 GMT
#2083
The because you are scum or shit argument is bad. You either believe I'm scum or you believe I'm shit, and if you believe I'm shit then you shouldn't push me like an idiot cause you will end up lynching a townie. The way you try to put simply reads as "I don't care what you are just die", and if that's what you think then you deserve to be lynched cause it's not a townie mindset.

If you really wanted to lynch Obi Wan so badly you had the chance to help me and chopin move the votes onto him, and try to persuade kush and Vayne, but you didn't, which is why you are to be treated as a guy who didn't want to lynch him, but just me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:32 GMT
#2086
I gave you multiple occasions to reason with me, Koshi. If you, as town, believe I'm shit with what I'm doing, then you have the chance to persuade me to assume your view of the game if the reasons are correct, and you know well I will listen.

But you kicked those chances. What you are saying is not believable, and is scummy, and does not reflect what you really have done during D1, which was pushing me without compromises, without real figuring me out, without the right level of townie friendliness and consideration I would have expected from you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:34 GMT
#2088
Can you explain that Haru.
What has his work to do with his alignment, or is that some sort of hidden message only you understand.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:37 GMT
#2091
Vivax gives me shit for stearing the entire town in the right direction while not disagreeing with my case.


I disagreed with your reasons and you know that very well, Koshi. I don't think I need to link to that.

Are you begging to be townread cause you townread a flipped townie?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:38 GMT
#2093
On July 25 2014 21:35 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2014 21:34 Vivax wrote:
Can you explain that Haru.
What has his work to do with his alignment, or is that some sort of hidden message only you understand.


Yes, it is something only I could understand. I probably shouldn't tell you all what it is though, but trust me he is 100% town if he had to resort to try this


I'm not convinced.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:39 GMT
#2095
Haru, tell me now, is that a soft role claim?

If I can think of it, then scum can think that too, so it doesn't really make a difference if you just come out with it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:41 GMT
#2097
On July 25 2014 21:40 Xatalos wrote:
Tbh this just feels like a town vs town ego fight. Stop it for now? I think one of you might even die at night.


The difference being that one guy is reasonable and the other just looks insane.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:42 GMT
#2098
And Koshi isn't insane as town in my memory
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:43 GMT
#2100
If I get janitor'd and one of Koshi or Teemu claims vig, lynch them immediately.

Understood?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:45 GMT
#2103
He's also reasonable as town, and certainly not this insane.

Take your pick.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:48 GMT
#2104
The most recent memory of his town play is here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?user=Koshi&view=all

Compare it. He's assertive, and genuinely tries to figure the game out, leaves back room for doubt. Asks the right questions.

I'm almost certain this is scum Koshi at this point.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:48 GMT
#2105
Not this sack of aggressive stubborness that doesn't listen to people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:50 GMT
#2107
This is his reaction when he provoked me on purpose while rightly suspecting me to be scum.

On July 16 2014 22:27 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2014 22:23 Vivax wrote:
There's no point in talking to you. I realized that much. It's a mix of provoking, nitpicking and forcing a reaction, then using the reaction against me.

Good job if you managed to have 16 pages of filter as scum.

Hmm. I can't do that as scum. You know that.

But you are completely right I am trying to do those things. But I don't want to use it against you.



tbh I was truly going to swap to Damdred btw. pinkyswear.

But if he flips town you understand that I can't do anything else but spam for 100 pages in the night that you need to be lynched. You understand and accept this right?


Compare it to how he handles me in this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:54 GMT
#2111
Yea the backroom for doubt disappeared again now that he posted more of his insanity.

That's so scummy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 12:55 GMT
#2112
Teemursu is like the only guy in the thread that thinks Koshi is playing alright.
If they aren't scumbuddies I don't know.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
July 25 2014 13:00 GMT
#2113
Chopin do you feel like Koshi has been this insane in Storm?

I find the differences to be quite defined.
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