EPTIf I were vig I would definitely blast him into bits.
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If I were vig I would definitely blast him into bits. | ||
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He definitely plays this game as if he didn't care. Anyway, Xata, you are now here: ![[image loading]](http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2013/02/jk08_1.jpg) Tell me about your read on Teemursu and Damdred please. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:21 Xatalos wrote: I think I'm leaning town on Teemursu. He's been pretty active, pushing his reads, getting attention. Not a position that scum would usually assume. Damdred is slightly scum / null. I wouldn't mind seeing him dead, but I'm not confident enough that I would bet the victory on him being scum. Btw he was pretty passive around the lynch too. He asked me some questions, I answered, he never really followed up. Then he just.... hanged around in the thread and changed his vote to Navillus when the flow of the thread changed. Would Damdred be your lynch of choice tomorrow or do you think that somebody else is scummier. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:32 Xatalos wrote: I think the fact that I easily gathered 5+ votes, same with Navillus, but it was impossible for ObiWan, might make it more likely that he's actually scum. Assume for a moment that ObiWan can be town, too. Why would scum want to lynch him over Navi when either choice doesn't hurt them at all. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:37 Chopin Liszt wrote: I'm reading along. Not exactly sure what you're asking here. Obiwan wagon came before Navillus and never got more than 3 votes, Navillus ended with 8. Chopin This is the lawyer I suppose. Xatalos argument is that Obi is more likely scum cause he feels the wagon didn't gain traction so easily over navi's. I'm saying that scum can still prefer another lynch over his even if he was town, and he can't just deduce that Obi is scum just based on him not being the preferred choice. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:39 Xatalos wrote: Not completely sure yet. Damdred/batsnacks/ObiWan all seem like decent choices, but not especially great. I guess it kind of comes down to process of elimination since by now since I'm leaning town at least on Haru, Koshi, Teemursu, Chopin, rayn, GB, kush, Vivax. The rest are closer to null or even slightly scummy. I'd wager that most of the scum are among the rest. Who of the rest is scum then. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:44 Chopin Liszt wrote: To make that argument you'd have to find compelling reasons why Navillus was a menace to mafia, which is a tricky proposition. Chopin This is directed at Xata? | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:44 Xatalos wrote: Hm. I don't think scum would care that much which townie got lynched. At least I wouldn't care as scum. Precisely, in a town vs town situation scum can do whatever the fuck they want, the less sense it makes from a scum perspective, the better for them. So you can't say Obi is scummy just cause scum decided not to pile onto him instead of others, unless you can argue who of the others was a teammate they needed to save, and why Obi was the best choice. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:47 Xatalos wrote: I think lynching into Damdred/batsnacks/ObiWan would quite likely result in 1-2 scum lynches. But you just said they're not the greatest lynches and scum is more likely among the rest. The rest being your townreads - these three. | ||
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So Palmar doesn't cringe. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:49 Xatalos wrote: I'm not sure if I follow. Isn't it pretty natural that the scumteam would be happy to vote for me/Navillus but not for ObiWan if he, indeed, was scum? Again, even if he was town he wouldn't be the best choice, or fuck knows what scum chooses to do. Yes, they wouldn't vote him if he was scum, they also wouldn't vote him if he was a shitty looking townie. Just...use other arguments and not this for Obi being scum please. | ||
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I'm not saying mafia preferred navi over Obi, that's what Xata is saying in the argumentation for Obi being scummy. So it should be directed at him. | ||
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Somewhere if I really had to pick 3 Vivax/VA/batsnacks I don't know why these 3. The End? No. Previously, in the same post, on AMC. I will end all this with me acknowledging Vivax has a big filter and that that can be used to argument he isn't scum. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:58 Chopin Liszt wrote: no you're not getting it. Navi got 8 votes ez pz. Obi wan got 3 votes with me pushing it and that wagon happened first. Based on this alone, Obiwan looks worse, unless someone can think of why mafia would particularly be happy with Navillus and not Obiwan. Because otherwise Obiwan should have got more than 2-3 votes. You're the one asking Xatalos why it makes Obiwan mafia for lynching Navillus, but if you're saying Obiwan is town, then you have to explain why he hardly got any votes. Although if Obiwan is mafia that makes Teermersu much less likely to be mafia I think. Hmm. Interesting. Chopin Main reason being that kush and vayne popped in and didn't want to sheep you on Obi but chose navi on their own. As I see it, shouldn't Xata be suspicious of these two now? | ||
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Assuming Obi is town. Point of all this being, if Xata wants to argue that Obi is scum, I don't want him to use such arguments. | ||
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How am I supposed to understand that conclusion. | ||
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