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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 06:26 GMT
#1026
that's fine but when you get back i expect an explanation as to how you got the impression that i've been playing nice with people
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 06:41 GMT
#1034
On July 12 2014 15:36 Alakaslam wrote:
I am martyring under the understanding that 27nb is probably actually right. The two slots I called out are scum; when we are confirmed it does not matter what sqrt did, he won you the game by being just the right level of LHF to get scum to unreasonably push him; the scummiest form of pushing an agenda

"i intentionally played scummy to get the scum to push me as a mislynch, bow before my scumhunting glory"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 07:02 GMT
#1050
On July 12 2014 15:54 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 15:52 Alakaslam wrote:
[image loading]


nvm, leaving now

LMFAO
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 07:06 GMT
#1054
MODS: Can we please stop this joker spamming the thread? At least with the blatantly NSFW pictures of rotting corpses. TIA.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 07:28 GMT
#1061
yes you have called to our attention that you would rather us focus on you without defending yourself, which means you're either town actively derailing any possible attempt not to mislynch you or you're scum actively derailing any possible attempt to find your partner

you tell me which is more likely
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 08:26 GMT
#1067
I don't want to get the general mods involved lol. Just don't want SURPRISE ROTTING CORPSES N SHIT showing up on my computer while I'm at work is all
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 10:14 GMT
#1069
Unflipped associations time!

If you're right about Shiny Ursaring being mafia, marv, then that explains why there's no counterwagon: the other mafia is busing.

Slamroot set itself up to be bused when it got caught -- notice how both members completely drop any effort to defend themselves from pressing questions as soon as they're brought up. If we're being honest, sqrt's post that I called him out on which started the avalanche of suspicion on their slot wasn't this damning or obvious. It snowballed because Slamroot didn't bother responding to any accusations whatsoever. I would acknowledge that giving up straight away is probably suboptimal play for the mafia because I don't think it would have been very difficult to defuse suspicions about them; however, even if suboptimal, it still conceivably advances scum wincon by allowing the partner to bus for credit. As town behavior OTOH it's not merely suboptimal, it's completely nonsensical. Giving up, spamming the thread and getting mislynched by a case that could reasonably be refuted is literally 100% negative utility for town.

So of course there isn't gonna be a counterwagon, and this shouldn't discourage anyone from voting for Slamroot today. There's not gonna be a counterwagon because Slamroot's partner is going to bus because the current situation is unsalvageable. What we want to look for is a slot that's acknowledging Slamroot's guilt and probably even voting for them, but whose reasoning isn't sound and whose primary claimed suspicions are elsewhere (and relatively unexplained).

So far Shiny Ursaring fits the bill there and I'd be happy to lynch them tomorrow, but I think there's just no way Slamroot is town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 10:19 GMT
#1071
haru can you restate that for me? i straight up don't understand how your responses match up with what marv is saying
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 10:24 GMT
#1074
On July 12 2014 19:21 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 19:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Unflipped associations time!

If you're right about Shiny Ursaring being mafia, marv, then that explains why there's no counterwagon: the other mafia is busing.

Slamroot set itself up to be bused when it got caught -- notice how both members completely drop any effort to defend themselves from pressing questions as soon as they're brought up. If we're being honest, sqrt's post that I called him out on which started the avalanche of suspicion on their slot wasn't this damning or obvious. It snowballed because Slamroot didn't bother responding to any accusations whatsoever. I would acknowledge that giving up straight away is probably suboptimal play for the mafia because I don't think it would have been very difficult to defuse suspicions about them; however, even if suboptimal, it still conceivably advances scum wincon by allowing the partner to bus for credit. As town behavior OTOH it's not merely suboptimal, it's completely nonsensical. Giving up, spamming the thread and getting mislynched by a case that could reasonably be refuted is literally 100% negative utility for town.

So of course there isn't gonna be a counterwagon, and this shouldn't discourage anyone from voting for Slamroot today. There's not gonna be a counterwagon because Slamroot's partner is going to bus because the current situation is unsalvageable. What we want to look for is a slot that's acknowledging Slamroot's guilt and probably even voting for them, but whose reasoning isn't sound and whose primary claimed suspicions are elsewhere (and relatively unexplained).

So far Shiny Ursaring fits the bill there and I'd be happy to lynch them tomorrow, but I think there's just no way Slamroot is town.


WRONG WRONG WRONG

Theres no counter wagon because NOBODY SET IT UP YET

Its not too late to salvage the situation dude, if I was scum and slam is scum now, I can easily salvage this hole they jumped into easily

Rather than thinking if we were bussing, think if slam is scum in the first place

Glowingbear doesn't fit the bill at all. You're just looking for another town to steamroll through d2. So I understand from your intent that you want to -> lynch slam d1 into lynching us d2. Note that only scum would set up a d2 lynch before a d1.

your actions have been recorded.

no shit they've been recorded, i posted it in a public thread on the internet for all to see

you've completely missed the boat on the point of my post, i'm trying to get marv off of your slot and onto lynching Slamroot because that's what i want for today. idgaf about the d2 lynch right now because we've already got the silly "there's no counterwagon so it must be a mislynch!" argument coming out and i'm not about to let this obvscum off the hook on that copout
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 10:25 GMT
#1075
On July 12 2014 19:23 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 19:19 Eden1892 wrote:
haru can you restate that for me? i straight up don't understand how your responses match up with what marv is saying


Marv says robik, exo, eden are just names glowingbear threw in

I reply with how robik, exo and eden have been playing scummy

this didn't actually happen, you gave an explanation of how robik might have been shady to someone with no meta experience and then just handwaved the rest/didn't explain it
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 10:46 GMT
#1080
On July 12 2014 19:29 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 19:24 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 12 2014 19:21 HaruRH wrote:
On July 12 2014 19:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Unflipped associations time!

If you're right about Shiny Ursaring being mafia, marv, then that explains why there's no counterwagon: the other mafia is busing.

Slamroot set itself up to be bused when it got caught -- notice how both members completely drop any effort to defend themselves from pressing questions as soon as they're brought up. If we're being honest, sqrt's post that I called him out on which started the avalanche of suspicion on their slot wasn't this damning or obvious. It snowballed because Slamroot didn't bother responding to any accusations whatsoever. I would acknowledge that giving up straight away is probably suboptimal play for the mafia because I don't think it would have been very difficult to defuse suspicions about them; however, even if suboptimal, it still conceivably advances scum wincon by allowing the partner to bus for credit. As town behavior OTOH it's not merely suboptimal, it's completely nonsensical. Giving up, spamming the thread and getting mislynched by a case that could reasonably be refuted is literally 100% negative utility for town.

So of course there isn't gonna be a counterwagon, and this shouldn't discourage anyone from voting for Slamroot today. There's not gonna be a counterwagon because Slamroot's partner is going to bus because the current situation is unsalvageable. What we want to look for is a slot that's acknowledging Slamroot's guilt and probably even voting for them, but whose reasoning isn't sound and whose primary claimed suspicions are elsewhere (and relatively unexplained).

So far Shiny Ursaring fits the bill there and I'd be happy to lynch them tomorrow, but I think there's just no way Slamroot is town.


WRONG WRONG WRONG

Theres no counter wagon because NOBODY SET IT UP YET

Its not too late to salvage the situation dude, if I was scum and slam is scum now, I can easily salvage this hole they jumped into easily

Rather than thinking if we were bussing, think if slam is scum in the first place

Glowingbear doesn't fit the bill at all. You're just looking for another town to steamroll through d2. So I understand from your intent that you want to -> lynch slam d1 into lynching us d2. Note that only scum would set up a d2 lynch before a d1.

your actions have been recorded.

no shit they've been recorded, i posted it in a public thread on the internet for all to see

you've completely missed the boat on the point of my post, i'm trying to get marv off of your slot and onto lynching Slamroot because that's what i want for today. idgaf about the d2 lynch right now because we've already got the silly "there's no counterwagon so it must be a mislynch!" argument coming out and i'm not about to let this obvscum off the hook on that copout


Your intent was obviously setting us up as scum that is bussing slamroot. Stop trying to pretend it isn't.

The flow of your post goes like this:
1) if glowingbear is scum, he is bussing
2) slamroot is bussable due to how bad their response to being lynched was
3) they're scum because.....
4) no counterwagon because they're going to be bussed
5) looking for team which fits description of bussing
6) glowingbear fits the bill
7) happy to lynch glowingbear tomorrow


No, it isn't. I pitched that post specifically from marv's point of view that you're mafia. Even if marv is right and you are, it's still better to lynch Slamroot today in my view.

Calm down and reassess.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 10:49 GMT
#1081
On July 12 2014 19:31 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 19:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 12 2014 19:23 HaruRH wrote:
On July 12 2014 19:19 Eden1892 wrote:
haru can you restate that for me? i straight up don't understand how your responses match up with what marv is saying


Marv says robik, exo, eden are just names glowingbear threw in

I reply with how robik, exo and eden have been playing scummy

this didn't actually happen, you gave an explanation of how robik might have been shady to someone with no meta experience and then just handwaved the rest/didn't explain it


What the fuck

I explained that exo doesn't post jackshit as town on d1

He literally posts close to nothing

That giant read post of his is inherently scummy due to ^

Glowingbear have not posted his long wall of read yet, be patient.

It's not inherently scummy, it's null. If he posts close to nothing d1 I would expect maybe one big post with reads and that's it for d1. I've gotten as much. It doesn't mean anything. More to the point, you didn't explain how it's scummy in the post I was describing. You just said he doesn't say anything, and then after I mentioned it, you added in that it's inherently scummy.

And you didn't explain anything to do with me, just some handwavey stuff about reading the thread.

And I know he hasn't posted it yet, I'm saying that your responses aren't making sense to me. I'm not really concerned with your slot right now beyond talking to you right now, though.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 12:11 GMT
#1087
On July 12 2014 20:59 Palmar wrote:
we did it again! started on a weekend!

Disclaimer: I'm hungover and will get mad.

[image loading]
On July 12 2014 21:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 14:35 GlowingBear wrote:
tl;dr: I have a scumread on The Wine Team and I have suspicions on ExO, Robik and Eden that I'll cover tomorrow while filter diving.

- WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear

This will not happen. I guarantee it.

[image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 17:51 GMT
#1161
On July 13 2014 02:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
those who choose to listen.

Make me

Also this is bullshit the other scum is one of you yellow-bellied seersuckers who keeps cranking out that wishy-washy "sure Slamroot is scummy BUUUUUUUUUUUUUT I dont wanna voooote for theeem" crap

If Lawyer gets lynched today and flips town shame on like half of y'all's cowardly asses
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 17:58 GMT
#1167
On July 13 2014 02:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Lawyer gonna get lynched? Nope.
We are.
And I'm trying to help town. I gave my thoughts on who's mafia, and who's town.
Like I said, you can disregard them.
You don't have to listen to what I think.
But that's what I think.

Even if you flip town I'm >90% sure I'm going to ignore your reads at this point because I don't agree with them and you're not explaining them at all.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 18:11 GMT
#1181
On July 13 2014 03:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Plus, reads, are just thoughts. One's thoughts are just thoughts. When I do flip town, you don't want to take my reads into consideration b/c they're just thoughts.
Have you considered that I don't want town to win anymore? After they mislynch me D1? First time getting D1ed for me. Ever, including a significant number of irl games.
But instead of not giving reads at all, I'm giving mine, just not explaining them.
Make do with them.

[image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 18:12 GMT
#1182
can we have Slam's useless spam back
it's more entertaining than sqrt's useless spam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 18:14 GMT
#1186
On July 13 2014 03:13 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Eden, you're either mafia or stupid town.
I hope you're the first one.

I'm pretty stupid
But I'm pretty town
And I'm pretty right
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 18:16 GMT
#1187
On July 13 2014 03:14 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 03:10 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I've given my reads.
Not wasting time elaborating on them.
Choose to take them into consideration or not.
Plus, reads, are just thoughts. One's thoughts are just thoughts. When I do flip town, you don't want to take my reads into consideration b/c they're just thoughts.
Have you considered that I don't want town to win anymore? After they mislynch me D1? First time getting D1ed for me. Ever, including a significant number of irl games.
But instead of not giving reads at all, I'm giving mine, just not explaining them.
Make do with them.

There's no reason not to lynch you anymore.

and yet your vote is... oh yeah on the counterwagon, legit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 12 2014 18:18 GMT
#1189
move your vote so we can kill this dude
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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