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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 05:24 GMT
#1592
Alright so let's start narrowing some shit down.

I'm confirmed town, we've already established this, literally no one thinks I'm mafia and if you decided that you think I am mafia you're wrong and stop being silly.

Next there is no goddamned way OnceKing is a different alignment from me. We've crossposted like 15 times this game with the same idea and we're not in the same slot. Either we're both town and seeing the same thing and commenting on it or we're both mafia and decided "hey bro you kno itd be cool as fuk this game if we deliberately said the same shit all the time and crossposted and 100 million % townread each other theres no way this could ever backfire ok bro lets go." Aside from the fact that I'm confirmed town and thus OnceKing is town, that makes no sense at all so there's no way we're mafia together. So OnceKing is town.

Obviously that also makes our slots town, which is good, because otherwise we'd be boned because holy shit these dudes aren't talking at all lmfao.

So that's two slots out of seven done. Honestly I could lynch everyone else but I'm trying to narrow this down so I'm probably going to call people town that I might still be comfortable killing because damn none of y'all are obvious town besides my slot and OnceKing's slot.

Going through the rest of the slots in order, before looking at filters:

raynpelikoneet: I don't remember a damn thing this dude has said this game. He's obviously not even trying to influence the direction of the lynch. I can't remember any significant analysis he's done either, so even if analysis is his game instead of influence, it's still not memorable. And he's not some noob either, he's in marv's power rankings after all. He's either lazy town that's decided "fuck it, I don't know what's going on, I'd rather play Hearthstone than try to participate in this game," or he's mafia. Would be okay lynching.

TheSlenderMan: I remember him posting a few walls of text I didn't read. Not very active either but I remember him sorta trying to influence the lynch which is good. Might be a more analytical type that posts long infrequent walls and while I hate dealing with that shit it's not a mafia thing to do per se. Had some beef with ExO_ that I remember thinking made sense. Indifferent to lynching him.

HaruRH: All I remember from him is him getting super pissy at me for trying to convince marv to vote Slamroot even if marv though his slot was mafia. Literally my only impression of him so far is that he has a short fuse on his OMGUS and he sucks at reading comprehension. There was some kind of clusterfuck about him defending his partner that I don't remember and don't care about. Indifferent to lynching him.

GlowingBear: I remember very few specifics about him but the general tone of his posts is pretty townie to me. He's invested, he tries to persuade people to lynch his scum reads. I didn't agree with / (?)don't(?) agree with the reads I remember but that's a weak-ish heuristic and it isn't enough to override my strong town vibes from him. He's open with his thought process, his direction is clear, and when he's gotten frustrated it's read like real emotion. Would not be okay lynching him.

TehPoofter: He's posted a moderate amount but nothing I can really remember. I don't feel like he's really tried to direct the lynch much. Just nothing memorable to say here. Indifferent to lynching him.

27ninjabunnies: I've been defending her pretty hard most of the game (ignore my vote on her slot right now LOL). Some people were talking shit about her style, I don't get it. I like her style. She's talked a lot and I felt like she put forth some real effort to get her preferred target(s) lynched, it just wasn't effective/successful. There's a distinct difference between her and some of the other players here, in that while they've all failed to convince people to lynch their preferred target, bunnies tried and they didn't. And what matters as far as getting a read is whether or not you tried. Her reads have been okay this game from what I can recall. Would not be okay lynching her.

Chairman Ray: All I remember are some one-liners whose specific content is unmemorable. Most of his posts that I recall were complaining/commenting/whatevering on Slam trolling the game. He's not trying to get his scum read lynched. He's not posting significant analyses that I remember (?)maybe I glossed over them because they were tl;dr(?) Would be okay lynching him.

Koshi: All I remember is that he wants my body, and something about some reads or whatever that oh wait I don't actually remember this either oops. Not memorable at all and he's supposed to be this big shot in marv's power rankings too. Would be okay lynching him.

IAmRobik: He wants TheD and he's vocal about wanting to control the lynch. But he's not doing anything to convince me or anyone else that he should have TheD. Not impressed. I think I intuitively scumread his bluster whenever he plays because I feel like he has to know he's not going to convince anyone by yelling and beating his chest, which means he's deliberately giving away his influence on the lynch, which is scummy to me. Would be okay lynching him.

ExO_: Dude I don't remember anything he's done this game lol. SlenderMan didn't like him and Robik is acting like he's fucking Superman gonna come swoop in and save us #TYBG. But he hasn't done that. Indifferent to lynching him.

So looking at slots now, we're not lynching Rocket, Frauds, TheD or Lawyer unless someone makes a good case or something significantly changes. Out of the other three slots, from most to least preferred lynch:

GoodCopBadCop > FakeClaim = VendettaStraya

My money is on FakeClaim getting out of this list by the end of the day and GCBC dangling from the noose. Let's start there.

##UNVOTE TheD
##VOTE GoodCopBadCop
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 05:25 GMT
#1593
Holy fuck I'm sorry guys that was way too long to read.

TL;DR:

- We're not lynching Rocket, Frauds, TheD, or Lawyer until someone convinces me otherwise
- Lynch preference is GoodCopBadCop then FakeClaim or VendettaStraya
- Voting for GCBC
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 06:14 GMT
#1604
OK Robik, two questions.

1) What "2 scum tells" did bunnies do?
2) If your case on Poofter is "he's relatively inactive and not trying to solve the game," why don't you want to kill Koshi's slot, since that applies to Koshi as well?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 06:18 GMT
#1607
On July 14 2014 15:12 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm going to sleep.
Exo can do what he wants.
I'm literally about to just give up on this game and just vote whoever Eden votes until he loses the game for town so I can laugh in his face after it's over

lol @ u if you think that's going to bother me at all. You won't even get the bittersweet bridesmaid of schadenfreude out of it as a sad, sloppy seconds consolation prize because losing does not upset me. If I played well and lost, I played well and that's what matters. If I played poorly and lost, I know how to improve so I can play well later. I come out ahead of every single game I play, win or lose, so don't count on getting any satisfaction out of me coming out behind, 'cause it's not happening.

You'd be better off playing. I threw some questions your way so I can try to understand where you're coming from in the event that you're currently right and I'm currently wrong.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 06:19 GMT
#1609
Crosspost and thank God for that because your answers are pretty helpful. One sec.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 06:21 GMT
#1611
On July 14 2014 15:17 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 15:14 Eden1892 wrote:
OK Robik, two questions.

1) What "2 scum tells" did bunnies do?
2) If your case on Poofter is "he's relatively inactive and not trying to solve the game," why don't you want to kill Koshi's slot, since that applies to Koshi as well?

I have never focused on Koshi's play, so I'm not as familiar with his meta. I've soooooo many games with Banks and we talk often on skype. It seems to me that he finds it hard to play mafia on forums...he does a really good job in video mafia, but i guess he can't be as passionate on the forums, and that's his like mafia-go-to

the two scum tells that bunnies did was
1) not wanting to be called dumb
2) apologizing for something

First part sounds sensible enough. I don't know either player's meta, just commenting on the current game. But I can see where you're coming from. I'm not opposed to lynching him anyway, it's bunnies where we disagree.

Second part... not buying it as much. Nobody wants to be called dumb and sensible people apologize when they make mistakes. Neither of those are alignment-indicative to me. You remember roughly when these things happened? Because I remember them now that you've mentioned it and I'm gonna go look back but I don't wanna dig thru 11 pgs of filter lmao
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 06:22 GMT
#1613
u r a saint robik ty
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 06:28 GMT
#1616
OK I'll grant you the apology-jk thing was pretty weird. Hard to tell even reading the page for context whether it's frustrated town getting snarky or scum overcompensating, but I can see where you're coming from.

But she pretty clearly said the second part was a joke, and while the resulting exchange with Palmar was odd and (?)I think I remember commenting on it at the time(?), that happened at the same time (roughly, same 3-hr stretch of activity) as the apology-jk thing... I dunno it just reads frustrated town more than scum. She mentioned being mad/sick/whatever when she checked in the next day. It seems genuine to me. Sorry bud.

There's still a day and a half to convince me though so don't give up if you believe in it, please.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 09:09 GMT
#1620
Koshi:
who are your scum reads?
what have you done to get them lynched?
why don't I remember the answers to either of these?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 22:09 GMT
#1788
ok, raynman looks town now, someone said something about rexobik being (?)too open with reads(?) to be scum and on reread i think i agree. further artoshi also looks town so that clearly means ~I Was Unwilling To Lynch Mafia~

~~~Time For Revisions~~~~

bunnies might be at work, idk, idrc honestly. i've played mafia while having a busy day at work, and the stuff she's choosing to comment on isn't stuff i would waste my time on. like think about it you have limited time to talk about stuff, what's your priority going to be?
- not addressing stuff that takes a while to address
- not addressing pointless shit
you have so little time that you have to MAKE IT COUNT by addressing things that actually matter. where is bunnies doing this? i don't see it

poofter still hasn't and probably isn't going to give me reason not to lynch him

sooo i would lynch this slot now because i'm now indifferent on lynching bunnies and i now would lynch poofter

~~~~

then there's harubear, i keep tl;dring everything bear says almost and i still dont remember anything of substance they said as a result so whatever i could lynch them too

~New Priorities~~
Would not lynch: Rocket, Frauds
Prefer not to lynch: Vendetta, GCBC, Rexobik
Prefer to lynch: TheD, Lawyer

u r welcome robik lets win 2getr

##UNVOTE GoodCopBadCop
##VOTE TheD
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 22:18 GMT
#1792
ftr if i'm wrong about either "would lynch" slot then the order for the next tier is vendetta > rexobik > gcbc
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 23:24 GMT
#1803
On July 15 2014 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
poofer did you look at Eden's actual case on poofer and if he is +1'ing someone or if he does have a case?
Do you think it makes any difference? In case people were town just by yelling "let's lynch [someone]" this game would be really easy to play as scum.

So summa summarum, why exactly does that make him town because i do not think your reasoning for your read is anywhere near good?

did you actually read the whole thread because if you did there would be zero doubt that i started the wagon on slamroot
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 23:25 GMT
#1804
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461355-team-melee-mini-mafia-v-newbies-and-vets?page=43#858
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 23:43 GMT
#1807
durp my bad...
i'll make it up to you by lynching him for you if you want
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 23:43 GMT
#1808
god fuck i went full retard on that one my b rayn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 23:56 GMT
#1811
i could also go for harubear

so long as we take out poofybunnies or harubear... fuck these animals, let's get us human beings in a mob
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 15 2014 00:10 GMT
#1816
On July 15 2014 09:07 OnceKing wrote:
gb did you ever explain why rayn's posting is confirming your suspicions of slender? they actually make me feel better about him

human beings in a mob man...

OnceKing

whats a mob to a king
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 15 2014 00:16 GMT
#1818
On July 15 2014 09:13 OnceKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 09:10 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 15 2014 09:07 OnceKing wrote:
gb did you ever explain why rayn's posting is confirming your suspicions of slender? they actually make me feel better about him

human beings in a mob man...

OnceKing

whats a mob to a king

whats a king to a god

whats a god to a nonbeliiieveeeer
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 15 2014 00:18 GMT
#1819
On July 15 2014 09:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 08:56 Eden1892 wrote:
i could also go for harubear

so long as we take out poofybunnies or harubear... fuck these animals, let's get us human beings in a mob

What on rayn's post made you change your mind? What on my post makes me suspicious?
Please clarify it to me, I cannot understand how could you change your read so quickly

i woke up this afternoon and my gut feeling about you being town changed

i've always thought the case made sense, i just didn't feel it, and consequently i'd mainly been skeptical of the people presenting it. but they all look ok/good to me now and i feel the case more

shrug
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 15 2014 02:07 GMT
#1822
ugh fuck it let's lynch poofybunnies

bear is trying way too fucking hard to make cases to be scum
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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