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ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 22:30 GMT

#2571

On July 14 2014 07:27 batsnacks wrote:

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Koshi and prplhz both confirmed they were connected. Why is there a possibility that anyone thought sinani was lying?

didn't answer the question.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 22:33 GMT

#2573

On July 14 2014 07:32 batsnacks wrote:
What question?

do you think both KP last night were mafia KP?

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 22:48 GMT

#2575

On July 14 2014 07:40 batsnacks wrote:

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I am certain mafia killed sinani. I would be shocked and appalled if town killed prplhz.

Then what do you make of n1? When there was only 1 mafia KP?

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 23:01 GMT

#2578

On July 14 2014 07:57 Palmar wrote:
Alakaslam is banned probably for the duration of this game. As per my no-replacement rule (which I now see is dumb as fuck, but I don't change my rules mid-game) he will remain in the game inactive.

does getting banned for the duration of the game qualify as violating this rule:

1. Don't be a dick.

?

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 23:05 GMT

#2582

On July 14 2014 07:54 batsnacks wrote:

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I don't know, maybe there's a doctor? Maybe there's a survivor? Just because only 1 person died doesn't mean both KP weren't used.

Do you really think town killed either sinani or prplhz?

well sinani did vote to lynch consecutive townies, and his role claim wasn't a standard role, so yes i can see a world where someone who wasn't reading the thread very intently shot him. prplhz....no, not really, guy was pretty town all along.

could also be a 3rd party shot as well, seeing how VE won the last version of this as an SK.

all i am saying is everyone seems to see this as very black and white, and maybe you should consider alternatives because as of now KP doesn't exactly line up.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 23:14 GMT

#2585

still don't particularly like how BM baited like he was going to claim on me then claimed on the banned person who can't respond. but i will go with Occam's razor like the rest of you.

##vote kushm4sta

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 13 2014 23:24 GMT

#2587

On July 14 2014 08:16 Toadesstern wrote:

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the claim happened before the ban if I'm not horribly mistaken. The whole conversation pattern that laya quoted could not have happened had he been banned at that time...

bill's claim is on page 124, kush's last post is on 122. they were talking prior to that, but he had not said he tracked kush prior to that

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 14 2014 01:32 GMT

#2598

updating previous posts with this day's voting info

D1:

iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax, sinani206, corazon
corazon (2): iamperfection, iamrobik
exo_ (1): damdred
ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies
obiwanshinobi (1): exo_
forumite (1): bill
hiropro (1): batsnacks

Non-voters: ritoky, hiropro, mderg, layabout, tehpoofter

Note: underlines are for 3rd party

D2:

exo_ (1): mderg
billmurray (3): toadesstern, yamato77, hiropro
mderg (11): sloosh, vivax, harurh, sinani206, kushm4sta, alakaslam, exo_, prplhz, layabout, forumite, damnedred
forumite (3): visceraeyes, billmurray, koshi

Non-voters: ritoky, corazon, vivax, batsnacks

D3:

billmurray (1): kushm4sta
kushm4sta (10): toadesstern, sloosh, visceraeyes, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, bill murray, hiropro, ritoky, harurh

Non-voters: layabout, koshi, vivax, exo_, damnedred, alakaslam

Note: layabout and bill murray are now green because they are 99.9% confirmed town.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 14 2014 01:58 GMT

#2602

Vote Analysis:

toadesstem - townie (lycnhed), townie (not lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 2 - iamperfection, kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 2 - iamperfection, bill murray
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 2 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - yamato77 (3)

sloosh - townie (lynched), townie (lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 3 - iamperfection, mderg, kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 2 - iamperfection, mderg
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 3 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta (2)
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - harurh, forumite (3)

harurh - townie (lynched), townie (lynched), mafia (lynched)(H)
-Lynches contributed to - 3 - iamperfection, mderg, kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 2 - iamperfection, mderg
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 3 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta (2)
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - sloosh, forumite (3)

Visceraeyes - townie (lynched), unknown (not lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 2 - iamperfection, kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 1 - iamperfection
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 2 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta
3rd party voted on - 0
Most frequently votes with - koshi, bill murray, sloosh, harurh, yamato77, forumite (2)

yamato77 - townie (lynched), townie (not lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 2 - iamperfection, kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 2 - iamperfection, bill murray
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 2 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - toadesstem (3)

alakaslam - townie (lynched), townie (lynched), n/a
-Lynches contributed to - 2 - iamperfection, mderg
-Townies voted on - 2 - iamperfection, mderg
-Mafia voted on - 0
-Mafia voted with - 3 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta (2)
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - vivax, harurh, sinani206, sloosh, kushm4sta, forumite (2)

koshi - townie (lynched), unknown (not lynched), n/a
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - iamperfection
Townies voted on - 1 - iamperfection
-Mafia voted on -0
-Mafia voted with - 2 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta
3rd party voted on - 0
Most frequently votes with - visceraeyes (2)

forumite - townie (lynched), townie (lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 3 - iamperfection, mderg, kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 2 - iamperfection, mderg
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 3 - obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta (2)
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - harurh, sloosh (3)

vivax - townie (lynched), n/a, n/a
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - iamperfection
-Townies voted on - 1 - iamperfection
-Mafia voted on - 0
-Mafia voted with - 2 - obiwanshinboi, kushm4sta
-3rd party voted on - 0
Most frequently votes with - (a lot of people once)

damnedred - unknown (not lynched), townie (lynched)(H), n/a
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - mderg
-Townies voted on - 1 - mderg
-Mafia voted on - 0
-Mafia voted with - 1 - kushm4sta
-3rd party voted on - 0
Most frequently votes with - (a lot of people once)

ExO_ - mafia (not lynched), townie (lynched), n/a
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - mderg
-Townies voted on - 1 - mderg
-Mafia voted on - 1 - obiwanshinobi
-Mafia voted with - 1 - kushm4sta
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - (a lot of people once)

Bill Murray - unknown (not lynched), unknown (not lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 0
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 0
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - visceraeyes (2)

batsnack - unknown (not lynched), n/a, mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 0
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - (a bunch of people once)

ritoky - n/a, n/a, mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 0
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 0
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - (a bunch of people once)

hiropro - n/a, townie (not lynched), mafia (lynched)
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - kushm4sta
-Townies voted on - 1 - bill murray
-Mafia voted on - 1 - kushm4sta
-Mafia voted with - 0
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - toadesstem, yamato77 (2)

layabout - n/a, townie (lynched), n/a
-Lynches contributed to - 1 - mderg
-Townies voted on - 1 - mderg
-Mafia voted on - 0
-Mafia voted with - 1 - kushm4sta
-3rd party voted on - 0
- Most frequently votes with - (a lot of people once)

Note: A bolded H stands for hammer vote.
Note: This list functions with bill murray, layabout, and myself as confirmed town.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:12 GMT

#2779

i received a phone call last night connecting myself and batsnacks, he has said nothing at all on the phone call and has been nonstop pushing to lynch me this entire phase. interesting, wonder why he hasn't said anything about it yet?

you guys seem really adamant on lynching a townie. meh, i haven't been playing well this game cuz the game started right when i got my wisdom teeth removed and my reads are much different than most people's so i can understand the want to lynch me.

i just kinda agree with layabout. it seems odd that i jumped up people's lists to where they are slamming votes on me for no real reason. batsnacks even said "he was trying to convince me kush is vig" when he fails to remember me saying "no i am trying to understand where the other kp came from, and kush being a vig is a possibility". anywayz, my reads have only changed slightly.

I think yamato77 has dropped to 4th on my scum list.

I would put ExO_, sloosh, and probably batsnacks ahead of him now.

I think it is safe to assume that Alakaslam is likely not the SK/has KP, as there was the same number of KP and he would have been incapable of sending in a night action.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:24 GMT

#2783

well seeing as how I am VT, you would be right in that regard. i just find this whole batsnacks situation strange. i am guessing we got masoned together, he is here the entire phase, posts tons in the thread (most about lynching me); posts not a single message in our thing where we can talk to eachother, and doesn't even seem to mention it. why hide that it happened if he thinks i am scum?

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:28 GMT

#2785

i literally just logged on for the first time this phase and posted in it, then in the thread. the hell are you even talking about?

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:39 GMT

#2789

On July 15 2014 13:29 batsnacks wrote:
As soon as I saw that you and me were connected, that was all the info I needed. Nothing needs to be said.

Really because your justification for voting was so full of information. I mean the case was utterly transparent. Let's really delve into this:

On July 15 2014 06:49 batsnacks wrote:
##Vote: Ritoky

You can see clearly that the reason the case is so inscrutable, is that he capitalized the R in my name. The capitalization delivers the emphasis needed to give proper affirmation.

I would like to see all of this info that you have, but don't seem to want to share with anyone.

On July 15 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:

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The thread expired at dawn. You were a little late.

Uhhhh where did you get this from? Cuz I was never given this info.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:43 GMT

#2791

On July 14 2014 07:04 ritoky wrote:

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No, what I am more saying is that there was only 1 mafia KP N1, and the mafia that died reduced KP for mafia, and yet there was still 2 KP last night. I am trying to figure out why that is the case.

Also, wasn't he not a mason? His claim was he can let 2 people privately chat, not that he could be involved in it.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:49 GMT

#2793

because with the information i had at the time it was a possibility?

there was 2 KP N1, 1 was mafia, 1 was our vig.
then a mafia who increased the mafia's KP died
then on N2 there was 2 KP.

I was looking into possible worlds of where that KP came from. BM fake claiming to get us to lynch our vigi was a possible world at the time. I said I didn't think it was likely and even voted (actually I was the hammer vote at 9 now that I look back) on kush. You seem to overlook the part where I was discussing an SK since VE won as an SK in the last iteration of this game.

I am a townie, I don't have wealths of information and role powers at my disposal, I just post my thoughts in the thread, and try to spitball for ideas.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

July 15 2014 04:53 GMT

#2795

you on the other hand, don't seem to do a lot of information giving, you do a lot of asking and taking and not much reciprocating.

i had read you as town cuz of this:

On July 12 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
Could I ask you guys to wait another 4 hours before you hammer mderg? I won't be home for work until then. I think there's a lot of good info especially in the last 5 pages and I would appreciate the opportunity to comment on it.

But I'll understand if no one wants to wait for me.

but now that i go through your filter, these two posts bug me:

On July 11 2014 03:05 batsnacks wrote:
One fish
Two fish
Role fish
Blue fish

On July 14 2014 12:15 batsnacks wrote:
as a tip for BM, I'm an actual VT don't try to track me you won't get anything. The reason I'm saying that is because I think it's actually somewhat likely that he'd target me otherwise.

For anyone else:
If you're a cop that checks for alignments, feel free to check me though that'd obviously be a wasted check.