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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 22:17 GMT
#1998
The point was that VE called mderg scum partly for throwaway posting then leaving mderg did that again and i jumped on it.

kush then said i wasn't looking at mdergs point that VE had a hard read and ditched it for a mislynch

my post was highlighting that mderg point was made in a way to make himself look good whilst attacking ve his accuser and that the thing he was saying about ve was a lie since VE clearly didn't have a hard read and his switch to another target was very predictable

furthermore if you look at mdergs posting today it doesn't exactly say "town agenda"
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 22:46 GMT
#2007
clarifying this:
mderg addresses VE's switch by suggesting that VE never thought mderg was mafia in the first place
This leaves the idea that VE is mafia and acted knowing that mderg is town,
not just in a way suggest's VE is mafia because mderg thinks VE is mafia. This is making a point in the way mafia might attempt to as they benefit from doing so.

what i am saying is in relation to this quote:

mderg talking about a VE voteswitch
This looks really bad to me. Considering how convinced you were of me being scum this unvote was surprisingly easy. I also can´t really grasp your reasons for voting ObiWanShinobi. I think you mentioned him 1 time before that vote and that mention didn´t look like a scumread to me.
So you decide to change your vote from your biggest scumread to someone who somehow is an equally good lynch. There is a lack of explanation and it doesn´t make you look very townie.

mderg exaggerates VE's original position to say that VE was convinced about his read.,
he then tries to make it look as if VE didn't think or at least shouldn't have thought obiwan was mafia, from what had been said in the thread.

mderg then makes the point that the switch was too easy for VE and that, that is scummy since he should have stuck with his hard read.

what mderg is saying suggests that VE's scumread on him was BS since he was willing to switch without saying much.

mderg was calling VE scummy in a way that looks like it was intended to make mderg look good.

i would argue this is scummy since if mderg thought VE was scummy he needs to push that. It doesn't need to be tied in to mderg's own image

but enough of that
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 10 2014 23:07 GMT
#2010
in response to koshi:
today mderg has:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552040
tried to discredit yamato who let's be honest, has had town shining out of his arse for quite a long time

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552107
been critical of corazon who has flipped town since (this is not to say that corazon was acting really town just that it turns out he was)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552970
acted defensively but conceded validity to the case against him

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22552999
tried to point out specific posts that make him look town

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22553103
pointed out he had a read that he doesn't have anymore

there are a few one liners which dont add much

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22554088
this post has no value but if you follow it you might get confused, what is the point of it?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22554556
big space for a post, we have a null read wifom and a correction about how mafia's shot's work

a lot of these post's could be interpreted as having mafia goals behind them some quite clearly others less so or not at all. However you have to make quite an effort to see these posts as coming from a pro-town mindset.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22554887
criticism of a case follow by insults


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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:01 GMT
#2016
On July 11 2014 08:53 Toadesstern wrote:
actually that's an instavote right now

##vote Bill Murray

yeah i think he need to say a bit more before we speculate since you don't get informed of a roleblock
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:18 GMT
#2018
i mean he was ignoring you and when it gets spammed out and people read through it they would need think about it but probably wouldn't, so i just made the thread more readable
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 00:35 GMT
#2021
On July 11 2014 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:
well I quoted the thing about 30-40 minutes after he posted his claim inbetween a dotagame so I don't think calling it "ignoring me" is really possible. Probably him not being around anymore, or at least that's what it looks like.

Pretty sure I would have continued pressuring it hard had he ignored it and brought attention to it had people spammed it away... Now I'm forced to consider whatever kind of bullshit reason he brings to the table at facevalue and consider it a null

Yes thread more readable, but a possible scumslip made useless... whatever no point in whining about spilled milk
Out of game info shrug

I can think of two things which would make it valid as town, it could be a poorly thought out move by scum but if it was as soon as any attention was drawn to it he would start to act careful anyway

At the moment i can't call forumite town in any way and i like everyone that was on his wagon. I think a forumite lynch should be on the table.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:03 GMT
#2025
what do you think about forumite you two?

as far as i can see at every point in day 1 he wasn't paying attention to the things that were important at the time
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:21 GMT
#2032
this was quite weird to me:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22536617
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?


On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.

Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus.

##Vote: iamperfection

Best case scenario he isn't paying attention to the game.

But at that point forumite had been posting since the case and koshi toad and a little before that slOosh posting about the case and robo had adressed it. If forumite had read it and was willing to vote in support of it you would expect it to have been on his mind and not an afterthought. He also doesn't attempt to add anything. His need to have the case linked to him also highlights how lazy forumite is being with his vote which he should care about but doesn't.

Italicized might be a joke but i feel like pointing it out
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:29 GMT
#2037
On July 11 2014 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:
forumite isn't reading. once you realize that it makes him look townier.

it's funny and sad

sidenote-I have only made it to page 60 although i have read 85 to current too
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:31 GMT
#2038
yamato ritoky was also very anti-ninjabunnies

i would take sinani out of that kill list his play has been really good
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:36 GMT
#2042
but ninjabunnies was 3p so it couldn't be a bus
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 01:45 GMT
#2048
i am not worried about ritoky right now

the most valuable things from obi's flip in my eyes are the things people said about him and this list:
obiwanshinobi (3): prplhz, exo_, yamato77

*green colour is potentially subject to change although unlikely to
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 02:13 GMT
#2059
a case on yamato is a case against town values
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 02:22 GMT
#2063
rito cut out the drugs they appear to have addled your brain

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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 02:30 GMT
#2065
We aren't allowed to ask questions to the mod in the thread, but the way this is worded is disturbing to me. Cuz normal janitor has the body flip but it flips as ??????. This says the person mysteriously disappears and will not flip. So uhhhh, does that mean someone could be dead in the game right now and we don't know about it?

If that's the case I might just systematically start voting on every single person in the game, wait for a vote count to confirm they are alive, then move to the next person.

has anyone not posted yet at all this day phase? would like to confirm that they are actually alive by voting on them.
wat wat wat, the less we say about it the better i guess. I think i get the logic but it has nothing to do with catching mafia.

ritoky's push on yamato means i might consider him in the morning but our prime suspects are mderg and forumite
damdred is a possible lynch too but i think we limit it there
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 02:46 GMT
#2069
ritoky yamato has consistently shown that his focus is on town goals

He is the first to pick up on obiwan and goes to great effort to push the lynch,
he interupts unproduction conversations
On July 08 2014 00:55 yamato77 wrote:
The forumite discussion has now lost purpose

and bring discussion towards the lynch, he is mindful of majority lynch he makes townreads that are sharp and their timing feels natural. He is on bunnies's case and he is confident in his posts.

How do you explain his corazon read and obiwan read without it feeling contrived or the aid of a tinfoil hat?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 02:49 GMT
#2070
it's also worth noting that at the time forumite and obi lynches had support from a lot of people (if not exclusively) that i would label town but they fail to get very far, once some of the louder voices moved from those two to iamp the wagon gathered momentum quite quickly.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 13:22 GMT
#2148
I think a forumite lynch could give some good info and i was a little torn between the two but mderg's vote on Exo is inexcusable.
dude basically claimed mafia.


I could see hiro being mafia. The BM push is bullshit we have good reason to suspect others so why would you jump on a LAL lynch?
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 14:16 GMT
#2153
silly colours!

however, i fail to see how the robik sinani bm interaction makes bm scum
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
July 11 2014 14:37 GMT
#2156
we have 7 on mderg i will add my vote but i might wait a while i don't want to waste the day
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