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Apparently I'm in a QT with batsnacks as off today.
Also this game started out as a 26 player game. There have been 3 mafia flips. The KP has somewhat constant been around and there's no way there's 3 mafia left. Maybe 2 mafia + 1 SK but that's tough luck as well... either way I don't think those 2 kills are comming from Mafia anymore. I don't see someone from town shooting either of the two either.
Sooooo long story short either someone like BM or Alakaslam is SK I guess? I just don't see how the 2 KP can make sense without an SK, the SK would explain the weird kill on Haruh, the SK would explain lacking KP because mafia + SK might have accidentially doublestacked or mafia shooting a bulletproof SK.
As for why I mentioned BM and Alakaslam:
BM has done WEIRD shit all game long. But I have to overthink this thing a little... It's reeeeeally unlikely for him to figure out the trackresults when he just didn't care about the game.
Alakaslam would make sense because maybe we didn't get lucky but it was just him being afk-SK and thus no kills from him and now that he's back the dropping KP from mafia (it should be dropping) and him getting back in the game equals each other out?
These shots are confusing as fuck and we need to figure out what's going on. There's just no way we killed 3 mafias in a 26 player set-up, mafia that had a double-shot-Vig as well and their KP haven't dropped yet. A static +1 KP from an SK is the easiest explanation I see right now
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On July 20 2014 06:08 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
So Willis
What has he done to deserve this, toad?
I'm asking why the claimed COP has not yet been shot by mafia.
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Btw this one like wow
![[image loading]](http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdgdrkYEUn1qb8jzfo1_500.gif)
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Scum could have another information role of sorts to disguise their KP, or maybe they think they can pull a mislynch on BM. I don't know, their KP have been pretty all over the place the whole game.
##Vote: HiroPro
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Oh hey ... maybe .... batsnacks is scum who masons with people, then they die next cycle.
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It explains the weird kill situation and the KP. Eh maybe we should kill bats today ...
Uhh I got the idea from ... some game Dr.H ran a long time ago.
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Nvm, it makes more sense that HiroPro is the scum operator given night actions. That makes more sense.
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On July 20 2014 06:22 slOosh wrote:
Scum could have another information role of sorts to disguise their KP, or maybe they think they can pull a mislynch on BM. I don't know, their KP have been pretty all over the place the whole game.
##Vote: HiroPro
yeah they could have a framer, but honest question how likely is a 6mafia game in a 26player set-up?
At least when I played the last time 6 mafias is what you use for around 30 players and for ~25 you'd use 5 mafias.
If it's 5 mafias the KP should be down to 1 because (5-3)/2=1. If it's 6 it could be (6+3)/2 = 1.5 rounder up but come on, who does that. Rounding up on top of giving mafia 6 mafias in a 26 player game? On top of giving them a fucking 2-shot-vig that can make people disappear?
No way unless things changed drasticly in the last half year I haven't played. Hiro seems to be the lynch for today but I really want to have my time for this. We could be in a lot of trouble if there's an SK.
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Maybe mafia have a delayed KP mechanic. We have 1 missing KP from D1, so perhaps their KP drops the next cycle as to disguise easy setup deductions.
I dunno, seems like we should just keep on lynching mafia. I don't see something that really indicates SK.
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Also Layabout was roleblocked one night. So if he's an SK that probably stopped a bullet? Wouldn't be surprised if mafia tried to shoot him at some point either. He is still alive and Forumite just died on us. Sure I told people I don't think he's mafia anymore but everyone's treating Laya as confirmed town with the RB right now.
Really something's fishy here.
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On July 20 2014 06:33 slOosh wrote:
Maybe mafia have a delayed KP mechanic. We have 1 missing KP from D1, so perhaps their KP drops the next cycle as to disguise easy setup deductions.
I dunno, seems like we should just keep on lynching mafia. I don't see something that really indicates SK.
yeah when it comes down to it I think it'd be way to risky to lynch someone else right now. I guess we can lynch Hiro and see what happens afterwards. But something's up here.
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Things aren't straightforward, I'll agree with that. I think that's just the nature of the setup and perhaps intentional play from scum.
But I still value behavioral analysis over all and I think HiroPro is scum who we should lynch today.
layabout I had as town on behaviour before the RB notification.
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Like, I don't see scum strategy as arguing uphill against the lynch given how backseat all their flipped members have been playing, so they are probably shooting really weird and hoping we WIFOM ourselves to a mislynch.
That's my current interpretation.
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Furthermore, from Vivax's filter:
On July 16 2014 22:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 13:55 batsnacks wrote:
INFORMATION:
There is at least one more operator.
That operator connected me and ritoky last night.
Ritoky is mafia. Has this post been discussed already?
On July 17 2014 00:13 Vivax wrote:
We have to know what that batsnacks ritoky shit was all about. A joke? A reaction test? Serious turned into non-serious?Anyway I feel that part hasn't really been touched yet.
On July 17 2014 00:33 Vivax wrote:
And well, I'd like to hear more about this batsnacks ritoky thingy. I feel like something important might have been buried there.
Vivax clearly wanted town to focus attention on the interaction between batsnacks and ritoky, hoping someone would bite. My guess here is that bats might be town and scum are doing funky shots to make someone look incriminating.
But at the end of the day, it's still lynch who is scummiest, not on actions / setup, but rather behaviour.
We lynch HiroPro today.
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On July 20 2014 06:42 slOosh wrote:
Like, I don't see scum strategy as arguing uphill against the lynch given how backseat all their flipped members have been playing, so they are probably shooting really weird and hoping we WIFOM ourselves to a mislynch.
That's my current interpretation.
Yes I was expecting weird shots to throw us off and cast doubt but I just wasn't expecting mafia KP to be unaltered after 3 mafias have flipped on d5 so far...
Maybe it's some kind of static KP but I've never heard of that before. If that'd be the case I would have expected the roles to be mixed between people who can deliver KP and people who can't to get some kind of boundary in there for "lategame". So far every single mafia was able to deliver KP.
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Yeah I get that and I'm onboard with that. I'll lynch HiroPro. All I'm asking for is some time and that you guys think about these things for a while better sooner than later because it's creepy as hell right now. And I don't want to get into some situation were we get a bad lynch the next cycle because we didn't have enough people who made up their mind fast enough.
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On July 20 2014 06:47 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2014 06:42 slOosh wrote:
Like, I don't see scum strategy as arguing uphill against the lynch given how backseat all their flipped members have been playing, so they are probably shooting really weird and hoping we WIFOM ourselves to a mislynch.
That's my current interpretation. Yes I was expecting weird shots to throw us off and cast doubt but I just wasn't expecting mafia KP to be unaltered after 3 mafias have flipped on d5 so far... Maybe it's some kind of static KP but I've never heard of that before. If that'd be the case I would have expected the roles to be mixed between people who can deliver KP and people who can't to get some kind of boundary in there for "lategame". So far every single mafia was able to deliver KP.
I honestly can't see SK existing when ghost Vivax delivers every single mafia KP and kush gets caught delivering KP.
It's some sort of mechanic in play accounting for the balance, but I'm not as put off by it.
I'd rather we start piling votes on HiroPro so we can see what he flips.
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I have been mason with batsnacks and Bill Murray.
How convenient.
Here is logs from batsnacks/slam:
Palmar: [redacted]
Alakaslam: Might not have much time to talk in here after I cool.
I am filled with heat and rage and acidic demeanor.
Palmar: [closed the topic]
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Willis & me:
Palmar: [redacted]
Alakaslam: Sweet.
Too bad I have been filled with rage, maybe will chat when I cool off.
BM: WE need to lynch Sinani
FUCK
WE SO LOST NOW WTF
IM GONNA DIE TONIGHT NOW
OK
IM MAKING A TOWN CIRCLE
U ME KOSHI
I actually don't trust you. Sinani wanted me to question you, obviously
I am going to assume he delivered scum into the cop's hands
Alakaslam
Don't worry
I am going to lynch mafia
Even if I don't trust you
Perhaps you are town
Palmar: [closed the topic]
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I made only one comment, for clarification; saying I was thoroughly pissed
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EPT
