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On July 15 2014 13:53 ritoky wrote:you on the other hand, don't seem to do a lot of information giving, you do a lot of asking and taking and not much reciprocating. i had read you as town cuz of this: Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:
Could I ask you guys to wait another 4 hours before you hammer mderg? I won't be home for work until then. I think there's a lot of good info especially in the last 5 pages and I would appreciate the opportunity to comment on it.
But I'll understand if no one wants to wait for me. but now that i go through your filter, these two posts bug me: Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 12:15 batsnacks wrote:
as a tip for BM, I'm an actual VT don't try to track me you won't get anything. The reason I'm saying that is because I think it's actually somewhat likely that he'd target me otherwise.
For anyone else:
If you're a cop that checks for alignments, feel free to check me though that'd obviously be a wasted check.
ritoky, batsnacks copy-pasted a post from Toades. Toades said that first, and because it´s so weird batsnacks posted the same thing immediately after to bring attention to Toades post.
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How long was Alakaslams ban?
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On July 15 2014 17:15 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 17:01 yamato77 wrote:
If Vivax isn't going to play, we lynch him. Simple. Exo's Obiwan vote. Genuine or bus?
I am beginning to believe it was a bus, or that Exo is the SK.
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I think ritoky is town now. No mafia goes through all that trouble this late in the game. Tryhard points awarded.
Batsnacks I remain unconvinced about.
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Damdred/Hiro/Forumite are other three I see as possible mafia at this stage.
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SlOosh is probably mafia.
As in 80% sure.
If you don't want to kill him today make sure to kill him in any lylo situation.
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Almost never Koshi, layabout, sloosh, BM, or slam.
Maybe Toad. Maaaaaybe.
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Did SlOosh buddy you yamato?
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On July 15 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
SlOosh is probably mafia.
As in 80% sure.
If you don't want to kill him today make sure to kill him in any lylo situation.
I don't think mafia Sloosh would be this active this late in the game.
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On July 15 2014 20:43 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
SlOosh is probably mafia.
As in 80% sure.
If you don't want to kill him today make sure to kill him in any lylo situation. I don't think mafia Sloosh would be this active this late in the game.
I disagree. He isn't active. He isn't solving the game. He isn't being tunneled.
I am looking at his filter and there is no mention of Vivax, while slOosh is being the lurkerhunter. Now he is voting Vivax?
In his entire filter there is nothing on Vivax anyway, there is this really small question from Vivax to SlOosh and I am not yet sure if it is out of place. Maybe:
On July 09 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
Here for 15ish minutes.
Vivax, this is how I approach big games, I'm sure it will improve as numbers shrink. Unless there is something I want to really hop into and talk about, I probably won't.
He didn't quote the Vivax interaction. While slOosh always quotes what he replies to.
And there are 2 defenses of Vivax:
On July 08 2014 08:03 slOosh wrote:
Vivax is voicing his general suspicion of Toads. Nothing wrong with that.
On July 11 2014 16:43 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 16:37 HiroPro wrote:On July 11 2014 16:29 slOosh wrote:On July 11 2014 16:03 HiroPro wrote:On July 11 2014 15:51 slOosh wrote:On July 11 2014 14:48 HiroPro wrote:
Let's imagine that you're a mafia player who got caught with his pants down like this.
Do you:
a) fake-claim
b) ignore any questions as to why you lied
c) try to out some power roles
d) all of the above Explain. Koshi would have been a prime target for medics/protective roles last night. By claiming to track someone to Koshi, but not giving a name, you encourage anyone who did so to out themselves. If no one claims, no harm, you're already in deep shit anyway. This makes no sense. Why would a blue out themselves before BM claims anything? Because people on TL love to claim for the slightest reason? You should know this by now. Anyway your case on mderg seems pretty ticky-tacky. It's not all clear from what you quoted whether mderg was still expressing a mafia read on VE then or whether mderg was saying that Vivax had forgotten that mderg had expressed a previous mafia read on VE. Garbo soft defense HiroPro, it's pretty clear that Vivax asked him for current scum reads (hence his use of the present tense), Try again.
Especially the last one is strange. Unless slOosh was invested in that conversation?
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maybe he was. Let's look at others.
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On July 12 2014 18:42 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 12 2014 15:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Sinani mason me Bill plz. You have outstanding requests. From other players. Are you town? Do you give a shit about town? WE'RE GOING TO LYNCH YOU DUDE. IF YOU'RE TOWN THEN YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY FEAR US BECAUSE WE'RE LYNCHING ALL THE FUCKING TOWNIES IN HERE! MAKE US NOT LYNCH YOU IF YOU ARE TOWN!! Bad post, you should know better VE.
Why is this a bad post Forumite?
Also Forumite.
GIVE ME YOUR READS NOW. You aren't doing anything and you will be lynched if you keep it up.
I can do the thing scum is keeping me alive for. ez.
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Ritoky is 100% town.
Batsnacks stop your shitty tunnel or you can also die.
Are you 2 still being masoned?
that means Mason for D4 + N4?
This means there is a scum that when he kills somebody he takes their bluepower?
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On July 12 2014 15:48 yamato77 wrote:
Koshi
Alakaslam
Toadesstern
prplhz
slOosh
HaruRH
layabout
VisceraEyes
Vivax
kushm4sta
sinani206
HiroPro
Forumite
batsnacks
ExO_
Damdred
Bill Murray
ritoky
in order, towniest to scummiest
This list is so bad. Who would ever agree to it.
I can see why we are still alive.
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On July 09 2014 16:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:25 Koshi wrote:On July 09 2014 16:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
depends on what you give me in return. Anything you want but anal. Could you give reads on these people? Try to say smart things. You don't need to do but any1 would help. HaruRH, ritoky, Bill Murray, HiroPro, layabout, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, batsnacks well, if not anal, then im sure we can figure something out. we can work out a barter system. ritoky, hiro, layabout, and slam are all null. some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game. haru's last couple of posts have been good, so i think hes town. i dont get why he makes excuses for not being good on day 1, because his day 1 seems pretty strong. agree/disagree? bm is playing nothing like he did in order. he was supertown then but he's getting away with the bare minimum now. he was suggesting policy lynches on people who werent playing (kinda like what cora is doing) but hes kinda hiding amongst those people now. ill probably filter dive kush and bats at some point. i remember kush being towny and bats having a shitty opening but thats it.
Obiwan mentioned kush, ritocky and bats in an evasive manner.
On July 09 2014 02:34 kushm4sta wrote:
OK my body needs sleep. I got to page 27..ouch. Before the entrance of so many people.
scumreads so far:
prplzhz
iamperfection
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
27ninjabunnies
ritocky?
Still haven't seen alakaslam/sloosh/billmurry/mderg/sinani/layabout/alakaslam/tehpoofter/hiropro.
The daily mafia people are hard for me to read because they don't seem to care for analysis. Most of their posts are inside jokes, which I don't appreciate.
I feel strongly that the boldified are scum. Iamp looks like he is bussing obiwan just from this last page I read.
Tomorrow when I get time I will continue reading starting at page 27. I apologize for not being up to date, but really it is all of your faults for talking so much.
Kush's list of scum from a few days ago
prplzhz
iamperfection
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
27ninjabunnies
ritocky?
The only ones that haven´t flipped are batsnacks and ritocky. Kush added in Obi, two confirmed town and one 3rd party that looked scummy at the time. He threw in Obi in there, he might have thrown another scum in too. Both Kush and Obi throw some FoS on eachother and bats+ritocky, the two people being discussed today.
Thoughts?
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On July 15 2014 21:14 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 09 2014 16:25 Koshi wrote:On July 09 2014 16:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
depends on what you give me in return. Anything you want but anal. Could you give reads on these people? Try to say smart things. You don't need to do but any1 would help. HaruRH, ritoky, Bill Murray, HiroPro, layabout, kushm4sta, Alakaslam, batsnacks well, if not anal, then im sure we can figure something out. we can work out a barter system. ritoky, hiro, layabout, and slam are all null. some people have pointed out that ritoky is forced, and i agree, but i do think that its really early to be forming some kind of read on him at this stage because people call him weird for the exact same reason every game. haru's last couple of posts have been good, so i think hes town. i dont get why he makes excuses for not being good on day 1, because his day 1 seems pretty strong. agree/disagree? bm is playing nothing like he did in order. he was supertown then but he's getting away with the bare minimum now. he was suggesting policy lynches on people who werent playing (kinda like what cora is doing) but hes kinda hiding amongst those people now. ill probably filter dive kush and bats at some point. i remember kush being towny and bats having a shitty opening but thats it. Obiwan mentioned kush, ritocky and bats in an evasive manner. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 02:34 kushm4sta wrote:
OK my body needs sleep. I got to page 27..ouch. Before the entrance of so many people.
scumreads so far:
prplzhz
iamperfection
batsnacks
ObiWanShinobi
27ninjabunnies
ritocky?
Still haven't seen alakaslam/sloosh/billmurry/mderg/sinani/layabout/alakaslam/tehpoofter/hiropro.
The daily mafia people are hard for me to read because they don't seem to care for analysis. Most of their posts are inside jokes, which I don't appreciate.
I feel strongly that the boldified are scum. Iamp looks like he is bussing obiwan just from this last page I read.
Tomorrow when I get time I will continue reading starting at page 27. I apologize for not being up to date, but really it is all of your faults for talking so much. Kush's list of scum from a few days ago prplzhziamperfectionbatsnacks ObiWanShinobi27ninjabunniesritocky? The only ones that haven´t flipped are batsnacks and ritocky. Kush added in Obi, two confirmed town and one 3rd party that looked scummy at the time. He threw in Obi in there, he might have thrown another scum in too. Both Kush and Obi throw some FoS on eachother and bats+ritocky, the two people being discussed today. Thoughts?
I don't feel Obiwan was evasive over ritoky. I look at that and Obiwan could just be defending a townie there.
ill probably filter dive kush and bats at some point. i remember kush being towny and bats having a shitty opening but thats it.
That pretty ballsy if both are scum. But I don't think like we should put too much value in it.
Kush, putting 1 or 2 scum in a list of 6. Hmm. I would maybe go for 2.
Again. Not much value should be put in this.
Forumite. Can you post your thoughts on everybody? Something Ritoky did.
The problem is I can't believe anything you say, you are not town enough for me to take this post at value, you might be a scummer pushing scumagenda.
Make me believe you are town please. This is a really important day for town.
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On July 15 2014 20:57 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 18:42 Forumite wrote:On July 12 2014 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 12 2014 15:17 Bill Murray wrote:
Sinani mason me Bill plz. You have outstanding requests. From other players. Are you town? Do you give a shit about town? WE'RE GOING TO LYNCH YOU DUDE. IF YOU'RE TOWN THEN YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY FEAR US BECAUSE WE'RE LYNCHING ALL THE FUCKING TOWNIES IN HERE! MAKE US NOT LYNCH YOU IF YOU ARE TOWN!! Bad post, you should know better VE. Why is this a bad post Forumite? Also Forumite. GIVE ME YOUR READS NOW. You aren't doing anything and you will be lynched if you keep it up. I can do the thing scum is keeping me alive for. ez.
It was a bad post for several reasons, tied into BM-meta and nightplay. Meta on BM is that scum kill him early unless he´s scum too. I tried to keep him around to give him more chances and he finally delivered, go me! However posts by VE and others during the night told scum that they didn´t have to bother with BM, he was probably going to be lynched anyway, no need to nightkill him. That´s why I hate posts like that during the night, never tell scum who is going to be lynched the next day, because if you are lucky they´ll kill the scummy bastard for you.
From my notes, I have Hiro, Damdred and ExO down as scummy. Take it with a grain of salt, I haven´t been good with filters and I only reread to about page 60, back when Corazon and Robik had their little duel.
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On July 15 2014 20:53 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 20:43 yamato77 wrote:On July 15 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
SlOosh is probably mafia.
As in 80% sure.
If you don't want to kill him today make sure to kill him in any lylo situation. I don't think mafia Sloosh would be this active this late in the game. I disagree. He isn't active. He isn't solving the game. He isn't being tunneled. I am looking at his filter and there is no mention of Vivax, while slOosh is being the lurkerhunter. Now he is voting Vivax? In his entire filter there is nothing on Vivax anyway, there is this really small question from Vivax to SlOosh and I am not yet sure if it is out of place. Maybe: Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 01:47 slOosh wrote:
Here for 15ish minutes.
Vivax, this is how I approach big games, I'm sure it will improve as numbers shrink. Unless there is something I want to really hop into and talk about, I probably won't. He didn't quote the Vivax interaction. While slOosh always quotes what he replies to. And there are 2 defenses of Vivax: Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 08:03 slOosh wrote:
Vivax is voicing his general suspicion of Toads. Nothing wrong with that. Show nested quote +On July 11 2014 16:43 slOosh wrote:On July 11 2014 16:37 HiroPro wrote:On July 11 2014 16:29 slOosh wrote:On July 11 2014 16:03 HiroPro wrote:On July 11 2014 15:51 slOosh wrote:On July 11 2014 14:48 HiroPro wrote:
Let's imagine that you're a mafia player who got caught with his pants down like this.
Do you:
a) fake-claim
b) ignore any questions as to why you lied
c) try to out some power roles
d) all of the above Explain. Koshi would have been a prime target for medics/protective roles last night. By claiming to track someone to Koshi, but not giving a name, you encourage anyone who did so to out themselves. If no one claims, no harm, you're already in deep shit anyway. This makes no sense. Why would a blue out themselves before BM claims anything? Because people on TL love to claim for the slightest reason? You should know this by now. Anyway your case on mderg seems pretty ticky-tacky. It's not all clear from what you quoted whether mderg was still expressing a mafia read on VE then or whether mderg was saying that Vivax had forgotten that mderg had expressed a previous mafia read on VE. Garbo soft defense HiroPro, it's pretty clear that Vivax asked him for current scum reads (hence his use of the present tense), Try again. Especially the last one is strange. Unless slOosh was invested in that conversation?
This sounds like an association case.
Look, Sloosh is lurk city as mafia. I don't even think he'd post what he has posted, to be honest. He posts like twice a cycle as mafia.
On July 15 2014 21:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 15:48 yamato77 wrote:
Koshi
Alakaslam
Toadesstern
prplhz
slOosh
HaruRH
layabout
VisceraEyes
Vivax
kushm4sta
sinani206
HiroPro
Forumite
batsnacks
ExO_
Damdred
Bill Murray
ritoky
in order, towniest to scummiest This list is so bad. Who would ever agree to it. I can see why we are still alive.
The important thing is that we've re-evaluated.
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forumite is 80 pages (over half the game) behind
and people wonder why town loses big games so much
READ THE DAMN GAME, OR YOU'RE LITERALLY USELESS TO ME
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I have the usual town paranoia right now, "What if the townleaders are scum?". Been there before, usually turns out I´m wrong and it all goes to hell but I´m wondering why Toades and Koshi are still alive. That´s a line of thought that kills town. BM lives too, not sure why after his spot on play yesterday. He was considered for the lynch at least the last few days so that´s natural that scum wouldn´t shoot him, but then he pointed out and killed kush. Might have been all that watcher-tracker mess that put them off targeting BM.
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