EPTDamdred, I want your next post to be a vote on who you think has most chance of flipping scum.
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slOosh
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Damdred, I want your next post to be a vote on who you think has most chance of flipping scum. | ||
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Damdred
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On July 14 2014 02:30 Toadesstern wrote: whatever, yolo ##vote Kush felt weird and out of place for how he played the game most of the time. Even after BM role claimed he pushed the vigilante to kill him before we even got information out of him On July 12 2014 22:35 Toadesstern wrote: if BM survives the night and I later on find out there was a vig who could have shot BM I will be mad. Best case scenario: We killed a fucking mafia BM!! Worst case scenario: We killed a BM and all the people bitching about how he's supposed to answer questions he keeps ignoring will stop bothering with that. Which is fine I guess, but getting any information out of someone is better than none. BM has been a bit frustrating but at that time everything besides the roleblock we were able to confirm and there were other blue roles that could keep an eye out on him. Even after BM survived, Toad still pushed him as scum and then slightly changed his tone with his vote but still tried to discredit BM in his following posts saying it was 50/50. While its true one or the other was mafia/town it would be extremely unwise for BM to pull that move as mafia. Hes pushing the town right now to focus on players he has deemed to fly under the radar and points out rit, myself and bat. I key'd on the bat part because I believe him to be town and he has helped and delivered insightful posts and it feels a bit off for toad to put him down here instead of exo_ who is much more under the radar at this point. And I still feel like he avoided the question that i posed him about what he thought was scummy about bat and just repeated what he said before basically. At this point toad feels a bit scummy to me, and while VE did try to watch toad he was apparently blocked night one as Koshi saw no movement, he could of been blocked night two as well. | ||
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slOosh
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On July 15 2014 07:46 yamato77 wrote: Where did Vivax go? He would be way more active if he was town I feel. On July 08 2014 01:26 Vivax wrote: What's the deal with those kush votes? On July 08 2014 01:37 Vivax wrote: Can Cav, Robik and VE explain what about kush's post makes him instascum? On July 08 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote: Yea kush stop being an ass and read your PM if you haven't. Does somebody else want to chime in onto VE and forumite, who fucked off x2 or am I fighting a lonely fight? Robik, did you already forget that kush claiming to not have read his PM has happened in the recent past and I don't recall you going instalynch on him? I did though cause he wasn't trying to solve the game, initially, but I wouldn't get that notion just from his first post. huehuehue | ||
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slOosh
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Damdred
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slOosh
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HiroPro
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Damdred
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So yea I feel like Toad is scummy after revealing in my stupidity | ||
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slOosh
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On July 15 2014 08:02 Damdred wrote: Actually yea I do and I feel stupid now for posting that. So yea I feel like Toad is scummy after revealing in my stupidity Wait step me through your thought process. You thought toad was scummy. I said VE wasn't blocked n2. Then you said you were wrong about toad. Could you explain the transitions between each statement? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On July 15 2014 07:53 Damdred wrote: I felt before last night that Toad played the day rather weird. His vote felt weird and out of place for how he played the game most of the time. Even after BM role claimed he pushed the vigilante to kill him before we even got information out of him Which is fine I guess, but getting any information out of someone is better than none. BM has been a bit frustrating but at that time everything besides the roleblock we were able to confirm and there were other blue roles that could keep an eye out on him. Even after BM survived, Toad still pushed him as scum and then slightly changed his tone with his vote but still tried to discredit BM in his following posts saying it was 50/50. While its true one or the other was mafia/town it would be extremely unwise for BM to pull that move as mafia. Hes pushing the town right now to focus on players he has deemed to fly under the radar and points out rit, myself and bat. I key'd on the bat part because I believe him to be town and he has helped and delivered insightful posts and it feels a bit off for toad to put him down here instead of exo_ who is much more under the radar at this point. And I still feel like he avoided the question that i posed him about what he thought was scummy about bat and just repeated what he said before basically. At this point toad feels a bit scummy to me, and while VE did try to watch toad he was apparently blocked night one as Koshi saw no movement, he could of been blocked night two as well. you do realize that the whole point of me was that he scumslipped and lied and thus I didn't believe his claim because I thought he scumslipped? Of course I don't give a crap about his claim... If you think someone scumslipped and literally goes aheand and is like "well, let's try again, I'm actually *insert something here*" would you believe him? And you're telling me it's weird how I was so deadset on someone I thought scumslipped and didn't listen to his claim which is literally the reason I said he scumslipped? | ||
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Damdred
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So instead of just going with the normal job of what a watcher does I went with what I played with the last few times I had it to deal with in a game. Therefore in my mind before I found out I was acting dumb VE confirmed toad good, Damdred wrong and should feel bad. Therefore I will stick with my read of Toad being scummy to me but i'm still bad. | ||
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Damdred
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On July 15 2014 08:10 Toadesstern wrote: you do realize that the whole point of me was that he scumslipped and lied and thus I didn't believe his claim because I thought he scumslipped? Of course I don't give a crap about his claim... If you think someone scumslipped and literally goes aheand and is like "well, let's try again, I'm actually *insert something here*" would you believe him? And you're telling me it's weird how I was so deadset on someone I thought scumslipped and didn't listen to his claim which is literally the reason I said he scumslipped? Then why would you even vote for kush at that point instead of pushing more on not believing BM? If you literally thought he would be scum why would you take part in a vote that could potentially kill a townie instead of on the person you think is scum! | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On July 15 2014 08:17 Damdred wrote: Then why would you even vote for kush at that point instead of pushing more on not believing BM? If you literally thought he would be scum why would you take part in a vote that could potentially kill a townie instead of on the person you think is scum! because we had someone claim a check and I can't ignore it. That's why I said if anyone else had said he checked that, kush would be a 100% certain lynch without a second of a though, with it being BM it's a 50/50 between both because both have something that would make me instalynch them in any other game. | ||
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slOosh
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On July 15 2014 08:11 Damdred wrote: Sure, the last time I dealt with a watcher it was a modified version of its role and acted more like a tracker. So instead of just going with the normal job of what a watcher does I went with what I played with the last few times I had it to deal with in a game. Therefore in my mind before I found out I was acting dumb VE confirmed toad good, Damdred wrong and should feel bad. Therefore I will stick with my read of Toad being scummy to me but i'm still bad. I'm still not following. How did VE confirm toad? | ||
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Damdred
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On July 15 2014 08:27 slOosh wrote: I'm still not following. How did VE confirm toad? He didn't in how this game works, I just wasn't thinking clearly or correctly at the time I was making my post. | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
you do realize that the whole point of me was that he scumslipped and lied and thus I didn't believe his claim because I thought he scumslipped? and it's a narritive that paints toad as a much worse player than i think he is and than he seems to think he is, and i think there is a very good chance that he is mafia i just felt like having a day off and i am pretty demotivated since most of the players still in the game are staying quiet or keeping their thoughts to themselves and there hasn't been all that much to asses from them in the last two days | ||
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Toadesstern
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slOosh
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
hiro i want your thoughts on more people As it stands there are too many people not playing Alakslam is banned vivax has been away for 4 days Exo_ has posted twice in 4 days HaruH has posted t 3-4 times in the last 4 days BM hasn't posted since the Kush lynch despite having possibly relevant information Forumite has posted once in over 24 hours batsnacks, ritoky and hiro have more or less tunnel visioned if you are town you need to start sharing your fucking thoughts because with at least 2 mafia and a potential sk or extra mafia to lynch if we are unlucky we still have to catch | ||
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layabout
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It really bugs me that ritoky labels those posts "vote analysis" it's vote data the analysis is the bit that you do with it that he hasn't done for instance: On July 14 2014 10:32 ritoky wrote: updating previous posts with this day's voting info + Show Spoiler + D1: iamperfection (14): prplhz, toadesstern, sloosh, harurh, visceraeyes, obiwanshinobi, kushm4sta, yamato77, alakaslam, koshi, forumite, vivax, sinani206, corazon corazon (2): iamperfection, iamrobik exo_ (1): damdred ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies obiwanshinobi (1): exo_ forumite (1): bill hiropro (1): batsnacks Non-voters: ritoky, hiropro, mderg, layabout, tehpoofter Note: underlines are for 3rd party D2: exo_ (1): mderg billmurray (3): toadesstern, yamato77, hiropro mderg (11): sloosh, vivax, harurh, sinani206, kushm4sta, alakaslam, exo_, prplhz, layabout, forumite, damnedred forumite (3): visceraeyes, billmurray, koshi Non-voters: ritoky, corazon, vivax, batsnacks D3: billmurray (1): kushm4sta kushm4sta (10): toadesstern, sloosh, visceraeyes, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, bill murray, hiropro, ritoky, harurh Non-voters: layabout, koshi, vivax, exo_, damnedred, alakaslam Note: layabout and bill murray are now green because they are 99.9% confirmed town. I believe that in the end mafia would prefer to be on the list of voters for kushmaster than not once they thought he was doomed. kush would have died yesterday or today so whilst a mislynch was desirable it would not be worth the risk of exposing more members of the team. Even if they tried to save kush once it was clear that he would get lynched then, being on the wagon make them look a whole lot better than not. kushm4sta (10): toadesstern, sloosh, visceraeyes, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, bill murray, hiropro, ritoky, harurh So if you agree with my initial statement mafia are likelier to be in; Group 1: kushm4sta:toadesstern, sloosh, batsnacks, yamato77, forumite, hiropro, ritoky, harurh Than in group 2: Non-voters: layabout, koshi, vivax, exo_, damnedred, alakaslam Next i would use my thoughts about the players in question to trim group 1 down to: batsnacks forumite hiropro ritoky harurh and after looking into that i might say that we should kill batsnacks or ritoky and since he never bothered to do any of this i would then say that we should kill ritoky. ^^^^^ Vote analysis | ||
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