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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 06 2014 20:56 GMT
#2323
Yea let's get this shit goin.

##Vote Cavalinho
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 06 2014 21:27 GMT
#2324
Almost nobody is playing this game, helps scum and makes me sad
Just OO who said he didn't care seems to care the most atm.

Report in if you're around pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 01:34 GMT
#2356
I think it might be safer to lynch Exo before Cav.

His scumread on rainbows literally disappeared. Here are the last posts where he mentions him as suspect and I didn't see him act up on it. Instead he swallows Cav's check like a baws without even knowing if Cav is town, and he should at least be a bit more sceptical since rainbows was his scumread.

+ Show Spoiler +

On July 03 2014 10:25 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 10:18 Rainbows wrote:
On July 03 2014 10:16 kushm4sta wrote:
rainbows, only person resisting the exo lynch is me and vivax and we are town.


You misunderstand. Yesterday there wasn't more than my vote and vivax's vote on him, nobody switched off of Haru / Mderg. It feels like haru and mderg were the two town wagons and vivax/me had something but no scum wanted to touch their scumbuddy.

People don't have to be actively saying 'no, don't lynch him' for it to be resisted.


You are scummy and you know it. You know where vivax was? On mderg: because mderg had to be scum for his day 1 lynches. Even after I explained the perfectly logical reason why it could happen, he insisted it was illogical unless he was scum.

He is scum, and you are scum. You're hoping to paint me as some kind of mafia for defending mderg, because I obviously knew he was town right? Only I had to figure it out through analysis. I even presented that analysis on my day 2 post accusing vivax and harurh of being mafia.

If we keep listening to vivax, we will kill a townie today, and lose. Rainbows is scum and trying to bring in another perspective to divert attention away. And that's what's going to keep happening. If we don't lynch Vivax or Harurh or Rainbows this game is over.


On July 03 2014 10:37 ExO_ wrote:
Something similar happened in ordered. On day 1 I called out Chairman ray for being scummy, and on day 2 I called out Chrom. The only other person I called out was alakaslam on day 2 b4 chrom, and I backed away from it almost immediately after.

I was ignored there. And here we are again, my day 2 post saying Vivax and Harurh are scum is ignored.

I wasn't as willing to commit then as I am now. I've seen additional evidence pile up, (particularly with the way vivax was before mderg lynch.)

Until somebody shows me a case Based on evidence that includes voting evidence (not just bullshit reads) then I can't see how it could be anybody else but Vivax/Harurh/Rainbows

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 01:38 GMT
#2357
The point it disappeared was actually after TP flipped.

I got no idea why he felt like excluding rainbows but not me post-TP-flip.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 01:50 GMT
#2358
What if I told you Cav actually isn't scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 02:35 GMT
#2360
On July 07 2014 11:29 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 10:50 Vivax wrote:
What if I told you Cav actually isn't scum.


Then I would ask: is OO actually scum?


It's possible for town to have those 3 PR vs. a RB, a GF and goon. Very balanced setup.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 02:41 GMT
#2364
Hey rainbows, good you're here.

Just wanted to point out to you that the argument you used D1 on Haru here was bullshit, cause you said he was following YOUR sentiment, when he posted his stuff on Koshi before you.

On June 28 2014 00:35 Rainbows wrote:
All the pressure on Koshi, makes me not like Koshi lynch. Responded well to pressure. Don't like how Haru comes in and votes Koshi. First two quotes in his vote post mean nothing, the third is pretty meh.

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 23:25 HaruRH wrote:
Koshi is weird.

On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote:
Kush is scum and plays lazy
Robik is onto him and calls him out
Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare
Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start

##vote: Kush


On June 27 2014 21:34 Koshi wrote:
On June 27 2014 21:31 kushm4sta wrote:
On June 27 2014 21:29 Koshi wrote:
Kush is scum and plays lazy
Robik is onto him and calls him out
Kush pretends to be still lazy while he is waiting for a fake role PM from Holyflare
Kush got the fake role PM and wants a fresh start

##vote: Kush


huh? what does the fake role PM have to do with anything..

it's a role pm not flavor pm. It would make no sense for the fake claims to all have different countries, since countries are irrelevant and that would be obvious gamebreaking. do you think HF is retarded?

Ah wait. That makes sense. The countries are irrelevant.

Still. I like my my idea. You scum.


Strong scum push on kush, retracts it, goes onto OO and then

On June 27 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote:
Note to self. I am so scummy that both OO and Vivax want to lynch me when 4 people haven't posted anything of worth. Impressive work Koshi.


condescends his way out of a push on him. nope.

##Unvote
##Vote: Koshi


Seems like he's voting thread sentiment imo. Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy.

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 00:09 HaruRH wrote:
On June 27 2014 23:48 kushm4sta wrote:
@haru if you felt so strongly about koshi being scum then why did it take me asking about your scum reads to say anything about it?


Because I just woke up, read through the thread and saw that hilarious post by koshi. When you asked me for a read/lynch, I reread the thread a few times and I picked up on koshi.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 02:48 GMT
#2366
Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy.


But this reads as if you said he posted it after you voted Koshi.

but the fact that haru made that vote as I was writing made me not want to lynch him anymore.


But you voted him afterwards.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 02:53 GMT
#2369
Rainbows how comfortable are you with lynching Exo first today.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#2372
On July 07 2014 11:52 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 11:48 Vivax wrote:
Whenever I make a post and vote somebody and someone else casually drops a vote like that it makes me very uneasy.


But this reads as if you said he posted it after you voted Koshi.

but the fact that haru made that vote as I was writing made me not want to lynch him anymore.


But you voted him afterwards.


I didn't see haru's post until after I posted my post. Of course I voted Koshi in my own koshi post, but I didn't know Haru made that post while writing my own post that I was about to post.


I don't get it.

You didn't see Haru's post untiil after you posted against Koshi or against Haru?
Reiterate for the other posts you're referencing pls.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 02:59 GMT
#2374
So you're saying you believed Haru's vote to have been placed after yours.
Weird that someone wouldn't notice the correct post timing, but I'll run with the explanation for now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:11 GMT
#2378

They are 10 mins apart, and I wasn't f5ing and stuff so I didn't see his vote post.

After I made my vote post, I went back and looked at Haru's vote post, I didn't like it and it made me feel awkward about lynching Koshi.


F5ing stuff was irrelevant cause he posted it before you, you already f5d that into the game when you hit the post button.
You explicitly used the argument that he voted after you with weak arguments against Koshi.

I just find it an odd mistake to make, and the explanation is even odder.

Also I don't like it when people start only to argue based on possible scumteam combinations, based on connections, which is what you and Exo are doing, and what Poofter did.

Which is why I asked you about your opinion on lynching Exo. You dodged it by listing combinations, but I have yet to see your real read on him. Listing combinations is a comfortable way of pretending to solve the game without actually having to find arguments for people being scum.

I just find it very iffy how ExO abandoned you as scumread and accepted it so quickly that Cav gave you a town check, which is the reason I've started taking a closer look at you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:16 GMT
#2379
Then I went back to read the thread after i posted and realized Haru voted for him badly (before me technically, but I hadn't realized it until then, after I had already voted.)


After you had already voted Haru?
So that means you didn't realize he posted before you?

After you voted Koshi?
Then you wouldn't have written that Haru was scummy for posting vs Koshi after you.

See where my issue lies?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#2380
Or maybe I'm just being paranoid.

I got the feeling that no matter which filter I'm reading looking for scummy things, I start thinking that person is scum.
When I see some of Cav's posts D1 it shifts me back to him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:38 GMT
#2381
Can you remember why you thought Poofter was town though, rainbows?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:38 GMT
#2382
During D1.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:48 GMT
#2387
On July 07 2014 12:46 Rainbows wrote:
I don't even remember looking at poofter much day 1.

which makes me look like garbs, haha.


Well, you said you'd filter dive him, nothing came out of it. Then you posted lists of people you found scummy, concluding with saying that almost everyone else looked town to you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:48 GMT
#2388
And TP wasn't among the scummy people so I assume that after your filter dive you didn't townread him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 03:50 GMT
#2389
you did* townread him.

But anyway, these two posts by Cav are so terrible that I'm probably better off thinking he scum. In the kinda fake aggressive post where he replies to kush he says he read both me and Palmar as town in the first post, and that obviously. Pretty much NOPE.

On June 28 2014 11:48 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 11:28 Rainbows wrote:
On June 28 2014 11:24 Cavalinho wrote:
Blegh I forgot, hang on I'm filter diving them now.


how do you forget that you wanted to lynch between the two players at the beginning of the game wut


Interesting stuff happened.

The only thing I don't like about Palmar is that he says he isn't playing but he totally is. Wtf. His filter looks okay/hilarious and I'll probably worry about that tomorrow.

Vivax's filter feels like I'm staring into the sun. He's probably town but I really don't feel like reading all of that right now.

Kush is scum though.


On June 28 2014 12:30 Cavalinho wrote:
Christ that post is awful. Kush, do me a favor and explain that totally unexplained read on Haru. Explain why you were putting words in my mouth before I even got a chance to catch up with the thread. You're making posts accusing me of shit before I even get a chance to come back to the thread and post my thoughts. What a fucking joke.

No, Poofter's post wasn't clearly explained as an evolving read. What in the actual fuck. Look at that and tell me that it made sense before he explained his meta, because it didn't. You can't townread someone for trolling and doing silly shit unless you actually have a good reason for doing so, because it certainly didn't look like Poofter was doing that.

Seriously, go back and read your own filter and watch your argument collapse in on itself because you can't be assed to pay attention and actually read the thread.

And no, those reads are not "wishy-washy." I just said they're both town. It's really not that hard to see.

Oh wait, you're probably not going to do that. You're too busy making up reasons to make me look scummy.

##unvote
##vote kush

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
July 07 2014 04:12 GMT
#2394
oo aint scum
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