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On July 04 2014 14:05 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 13:57 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:49 Cavalinho wrote:On July 04 2014 13:47 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:46 Cavalinho wrote:
Vivax why is it that you only want to lynch the weakest players in the game? What the fuck is this supposed to mean. Take a look at the people you've scumread over the course of the game: Me, who has had thread sentiment against him since day 1. Mderg, who is generally very clumsy as town and was busy for the majority of that day. Poofter, who wasn't here for half the game. Exo, who is new. Do you or do you not see the problem with these scumreads? I see the problem that you're judging them purely based on an hypothetical skill level or thread sentiment or activity instead of judging them based on their posts, like I'm doing. With that logic you use I shouldn't even be looking at them, cause they're "weak". Unless you can give me a good reason for each of these people being town, then your post right now is confirmed scummy bullshit. Mderg is clumsy as town, so he can't be scummy. Poofter wasn't here for half the game, so he can't be scummy. Exo is new, he can't be scummy. You played like ass D1 and most thought that way too, so you can't be scummy. - Cav, 2014 The issue isn't "these people can't be scummy," the issue is "these people are all ridiculously easy lynches." This doesn't make them town; what I'm trying to get you to do is the whole "imaginary townread" thing you made other players do. Unless ofc it doesn't count because none of that shit actually applies to you because idk.
Why are you calling them easy lynches in the first place?
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On July 04 2014 14:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:05 Cavalinho wrote:On July 04 2014 13:57 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:49 Cavalinho wrote:On July 04 2014 13:47 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:46 Cavalinho wrote:
Vivax why is it that you only want to lynch the weakest players in the game? What the fuck is this supposed to mean. Take a look at the people you've scumread over the course of the game: Me, who has had thread sentiment against him since day 1. Mderg, who is generally very clumsy as town and was busy for the majority of that day. Poofter, who wasn't here for half the game. Exo, who is new. Do you or do you not see the problem with these scumreads? I see the problem that you're judging them purely based on an hypothetical skill level or thread sentiment or activity instead of judging them based on their posts, like I'm doing. With that logic you use I shouldn't even be looking at them, cause they're "weak". Unless you can give me a good reason for each of these people being town, then your post right now is confirmed scummy bullshit. Mderg is clumsy as town, so he can't be scummy. Poofter wasn't here for half the game, so he can't be scummy. Exo is new, he can't be scummy. You played like ass D1 and most thought that way too, so you can't be scummy. - Cav, 2014 The issue isn't "these people can't be scummy," the issue is "these people are all ridiculously easy lynches." This doesn't make them town; what I'm trying to get you to do is the whole "imaginary townread" thing you made other players do. Unless ofc it doesn't count because none of that shit actually applies to you because idk. Why are you calling them easy lynches in the first place?
What I mean is, calling somebody an easy lynch and holding it against me already holds the premise that you think or want to say that person is town, cause you can't deny that a scum can be an easy lynch too.
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On July 04 2014 14:15 Cavalinho wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:11 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 14:05 Cavalinho wrote:On July 04 2014 13:57 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:49 Cavalinho wrote:On July 04 2014 13:47 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:46 Cavalinho wrote:
Vivax why is it that you only want to lynch the weakest players in the game? What the fuck is this supposed to mean. Take a look at the people you've scumread over the course of the game: Me, who has had thread sentiment against him since day 1. Mderg, who is generally very clumsy as town and was busy for the majority of that day. Poofter, who wasn't here for half the game. Exo, who is new. Do you or do you not see the problem with these scumreads? I see the problem that you're judging them purely based on an hypothetical skill level or thread sentiment or activity instead of judging them based on their posts, like I'm doing. With that logic you use I shouldn't even be looking at them, cause they're "weak". Unless you can give me a good reason for each of these people being town, then your post right now is confirmed scummy bullshit. Mderg is clumsy as town, so he can't be scummy. Poofter wasn't here for half the game, so he can't be scummy. Exo is new, he can't be scummy. You played like ass D1 and most thought that way too, so you can't be scummy. - Cav, 2014 The issue isn't "these people can't be scummy," the issue is "these people are all ridiculously easy lynches." This doesn't make them town; what I'm trying to get you to do is the whole "imaginary townread" thing you made other players do. Unless ofc it doesn't count because none of that shit actually applies to you because idk. Why are you calling them easy lynches in the first place? Do you not understand the concept?
Dude, you just came into the fucking thread trying to paint me red cause of the people I was suspecting, now that you unburrowed the war totem I won't let you backtrack from this shit just cause you say I look town now.
You didn't care if those people were scummy, you just listed a bunch of reasons for why they were more likely to be lynched over others, thus saying "Vivax isn't pushing them cause he thinks they're scum, but cause they are more prone to looking scummy".
And by saying that they are prone to look more scummy than others, you also communicate that you don't find any of them sufficiently scummy yet.
Which I would find highly unlikely if you were town.
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If you think and believe that one guy is legitimately scummy, you won't apply the argument that he's lynchbait.
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On July 04 2014 14:25 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:08 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 14:03 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 13:52 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:48 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 13:45 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 13:40 ObviousOne wrote:On July 04 2014 13:31 Vivax wrote:
Idk when I see obviousone posting that shit at mylo it does push me back to suspecting him. it's k bro you only have to deal with me one last time, mafia doesn't engage me anymore. it all started when i quit smoking cigarettes, more and more of my other addictions (mostly games) have been falling off. i took a short break over the winter, playing a couple of games on the more casual but more loving omgus.net to see if i was just bored of the game or if other things were just more interesting. what was funny to see is that a lot of the things i enjoyed playing/doing as a smoker are no longer the case. i was going to play in sentinel's game but was too late so i cohosted, i got to find out here in this game that playing on tl isnt for me anymore. also i didnt read the op and didn't realize i had to post like 2 pages per day and that's really hard to do when you literally don't care about playing anymore suddenly. so oh well. literally zero fucks if you want to throw the game lynching the doctor. but for your (town's) sake i am trying to not get modkilled and follow the only potential confirmed town i can see and that is kush. p.s. if kush is mafia vig and i am doctor and those are the only PRs in the game it's gonna be hilars Ok, to the townread shelf. Now definitively. Congratz on your efforts and results, keep it up. HAHAHAHAHAHA this gave you a town read???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Can you two just start posting lolcats and shit now like you're basically confirmed teammates with a bullshit interaction in the thread. Kush is bad if he can't see this. Jesus Now I have to pander to Haru and Rainbows one of which is probably scum and pray we can vote one of you faster than you guys can vote me (unlikely) gg Yes, it gave me a townread. I don't think OO has made all of that up and I know he talked a lot about his smoking habits in the past, it just looks like a sincere answer for why he's playing like that. It does make me sad he doesn't enjoy mafia anymore but to each his own. So he wouldn't ever pander to your past knowledge of the smoking thing? Not something he would do as mafia? lol. I don't see the point in continuing this conversation unless you wanna prove that OO is mafia for some reason. The read is mine to make and if you don't get the same feels I do from that post then I'm not obligated to explain it to you. You're the guy who has to show his townieness, not me. Exo, Cav and Poofter alone can't do much on their own against all the other guys who aren't scumreading me. I'm just saying that you are town reading him off nothing. It feels like to me you may have realized I was gaining ground in our exchange and wanted to have some interaction between teh two of you. So he comes out and says some bullshit and you go "oh wow townshelf" when you questioned cav for like a solid 2 days and got nothing. Like the fact some of your reads take 1 post to become town shelf vs 2 days of stuff on cav who you were unsure of. Like that doesn't add up. I mean can you honestly say that because OO makes one post and you go "yep town" Why not pressure him like you did cav? Why not do that?
That post was the result of my pressure.
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On July 04 2014 14:27 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 13:13 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 02 2014 12:29 ExO_ wrote:
Also if we have a medic, please consider protecting me tonight. If I'm right I don't think Vivax and co will want me around tomorrow DR Banks checking in why do I need to save you over CAv? poofter what was btw? Just you joking around?
Do you think he would give you an honest answer as mafia?
You'll never catch mafia with such a question.
"No hey I'm totes medic and OO claimed medic too and I'm not scumreading him"
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Well technically speaking he is scumreading him but not for the medic claim
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On July 04 2014 14:28 Cavalinho wrote:
That's...not what I was trying to accomplish.
I literally just said that I gave you a townread trying to understand where you were coming from. You did this with ExO and I felt as if I should do the same. I wasn't trying to use this to conclude that you were red at all, I was trying to see where you stood on these people and if you would be able to consider looking at different players. Because I don't see Poofter as mafia, and I don't see ExO as mafia.
Don't try to turn this into a "you vs me" war, because I'm not trying to do that at all.
If you're just going to use every single conversation we have as a reason to paint me as scum, then I believe that we're done here.
Poofter said the exact same thing, that I'm going after targets that are too obvious to be mafia, and he uses that argument to suspect me.
If you come into the thread with the same argument, I'm obviously going to assume you want to paint me red too, cause I see no other reason to bring that up.
If your intention wasn't to scumread me, then I see no purpose behind that post at all.
I looked at all players already in this game and considered them to be possible scum. The only exception is rainbows whom I gut-townread early, cause he doesn't try to push me for bullshit even when he has the chance to, and cause he legitimately tries to figure the game out. If he's faking that, kudos to him and I won't be sad to have lost to him.
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On July 04 2014 14:28 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:27 ExO_ wrote:On July 02 2014 13:13 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 02 2014 12:29 ExO_ wrote:
Also if we have a medic, please consider protecting me tonight. If I'm right I don't think Vivax and co will want me around tomorrow DR Banks checking in why do I need to save you over CAv? poofter what was btw? Just you joking around? he blued his name in his list post add this maybe he was setting up innocuous details he could use to fake claim later?
This is a very good observation.
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On July 04 2014 14:36 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:30 Vivax wrote:
Well technically speaking he is scumreading him but not for the medic claim do a quick 180 is anyone townreading me that shouldn't be in your opinion? i see that cav's been townreading me since i let up pressure on him after d1. kush has been back and forth many times. interesting: Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 15:46 ExO_ wrote:
If you aren't scum, then who is out of:
mderg (6): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, kushm4sta, IAmRobik, Vivax, IAmRobik, Rainbows
or do you seriously think I'm going to believe that 2 or less scum are in this list
tehpoofter isn't grilled at all, vivax is grilled like grilled cheese
This is all from Exo's presumption that scum was on mderg and not on Haru cause haru is mafia in his eyes.
But yeah, I'm aware that he has only shown interest into pushing me, Haru and rainbows as possible scum.
If he and Poofter are scumbuddies, Exo is forced to react now, so sit back and enjoy the show as he abandons his aggressive push on me and starts "considering" that Poofter is scum.
At least I hope that it is the situation we're in.
As for people townreading you for no reason, point me to who you mean specifically cause I don't wanna sift through all filters to find out right now.
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Time to the vote where it matters.
##Unvote
##Vote TehPoofter
Let's hope he's indeed scum, I'm around now but I don't know if I'll be around at deadline, I'm pretty tired atm and will likely go to sleep before that.
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Fuck should have done post flip reading before night ended.
Gotta hurry now.
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Btw kush I found rainbow's reaction to my fake vigshot on mderg kinda townie, cause if he was scum thinking a townie would get shot I'm not sure he would be writing that.
Not 100 % sure though cause it's also kinda easy to fake.
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Idk I'm starting to feel better about Haru being a possible scummer cause of the way he was active D1 and then completely dropped off which is mafia trait.
But then idk who between Exo and Cav would be townie.
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Let's dwell a little over this:
On July 02 2014 06:02 Holyflare wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 2: Cavalinho (0): HaruRH, kushm4sta, Rainbows, IAmRobikIAmRobik (0): ExO_HaruRH (4): ObviousOne, kushm4sta, mderg, IAmRobik, Cavalinho, ExO_ ExO_ (0): Rainbows, Vivaxkushm4sta (0): HaruRHmderg (6): Tehpoofter, HaruRH, kushm4sta, IAmRobik, Vivax, IAmRobik, Rainbows Vivax (0): ExO_, CavalinhoNot voting: Nobody!
[blue][b]mderg has been lynched!
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Based on this I can see mafia being Rain Haru Poofter if haru is scum, but also Cava exo Poofter if Haru is town.
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Nice, who are you protting.
Cav, why disappearing?
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Especially, Cav explain why it's almost confirmed that no scum was on your wagon yesterday.
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Anyway lynch Cav tomorrow, imo the NK analysis is enough cause scum didn't push the idea together with me that Koshi and Robik were NKd over claimed PRs cause they wanted Cav dead.
The way Poofter handled him is also proof that he's scum. Lots of waffles, distrusting the claim but never attacking him, then randomly including him into a scumteam combination and forget about it again.
Tough part will be choosing between Exo and haru.
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If he flips scum lynch Exo and gg
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