EPTAlmost all games I know of on TL are balanced to avoid a follow the cop strategy.
SO for balance reasons I distrust the claims, but I'm not sure which one more between yours and Cav, probably Cav's.
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Almost all games I know of on TL are balanced to avoid a follow the cop strategy. SO for balance reasons I distrust the claims, but I'm not sure which one more between yours and Cav, probably Cav's. | ||
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On July 04 2014 01:13 ObviousOne wrote: ##unvote HaruRH ##vote Cavalinho we lose if he's town right? let's get this done now and not in 3 days then Can you just be less wat for once and do some standard conversation. | ||
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On July 04 2014 01:50 kushm4sta wrote: I think it's rainbows but everyone disagrees with me. Honestly I haven't done much filter diving. Cava said he de doesn't think he's town or at least not sure. However rereading some of the D1 stuff Poofter wrote with the current flips in mind I do feel sort of confident into him being mafia. He has been generally very passive and too cool about people's alignments. He scumread me for the way I reacted to Palmar, townread Koshi for his way and townread Palmar who later admitted he made a shit case on purpose. Especially the last bit is information Poofter purposefully ignored, without adapting his read on me acknowledging that my reaction was only natural given that it was what Palmar was apparently trying to provoke, and Koshi sitting on the sidelines cheering for Palmar and his bad case looked naturally scummy to me. The scumread on me disappeared when Robik got stuck on sinani being scum, literally the only reason Poofter scumread sinani was cause sinani was scumreading Robik, and that is NOT COOL | ||
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But if I find such a thing in his filter I'll be wary. | ||
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On July 04 2014 05:14 HaruRH wrote: Town should switch to oo/cav/poofter. Oo just shittalks this whole game (read haru filter and I felt sick etc) lel Is this all you have to say after your prolonged absence? There are uannswered questions waiting. | ||
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Mine is you/Cav/Exo | ||
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Though just the notion that all roleclaims could be scum made me think it was so outlandish that he couldn't be scum but I'm not taking anything for granted atm. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:08 Tehpoofter wrote: scum mvp  So Vivax you think I have to be mafia I'm assuming. I think the same of you. How fucked is town if were both town? Like I know if I get voted we just lose so anyway you can convince me your'e town? kush seems to think you're town maybe I'm just playing a shit game but if I did manage to read you as town game is ez for me one of OO/Cav and then Haru/rainbows. So let me in on why you're so town I like this game but I don't like the timing you wanna start playing it at, which is when your head approaches the noose. | ||
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It kinda answers itself though cause evidently you don't see it as scummy. | ||
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I will conceed that if Vivax is town I might lose the game for us and I can maybe reconsider but honestly I don't see him being town with the way he has handled Cav as well as him just in generally harping similar points repeatedly as opposed to looking in different directions. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote: I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. | ||
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On July 04 2014 10:27 Tehpoofter wrote: SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. The only reason you'd look stupid if he flipped red is cause you didn't try to get a read on him the old fashioned way after he claimed. You were basically very comfy letting him slide only based on his claim, regardless of his real alignment. At least I tried to check your filter for instances where you try to figure out Cav post cop-claim but I can't find them. | ||
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There are also holes in some of the stuff he said D1. He called TP, kush and mderg scum for calling him scum, more or less, and then ended up only pushing mderg constantly. On July 04 2014 10:57 Tehpoofter wrote: NO PEAKING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME VIVAX + Show Spoiler + I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean? Nope, overconfidence at lylo is a scumtell imo. Not so much in plurality as in instant majority. Got caught in voice mafia once cause I was too eager to push a single guy at lylo and treat the puppet as if I was super confident that he was town. It's situational but in this case I would say that Exo's confidence should at best be treated as null cause there are multiple scenarios where he can show it. On July 04 2014 10:52 Tehpoofter wrote: I will once you answer some questions for me. 1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum? 2) What is the team if I'm town? 3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why? 1) I've mentioned what I didn't like about you. The feeling that you were trying to keep your head low for example .The way you didn't try to figure out if Cav was town or scum based on some reasoning as to why he should be kept alive for mafia to waste roleblocks. Even if you say mafia has to waste roleblocks on him, that's unrelated to his alignment cause they have to do it either way, and that leaves us with you not trying to figure it out over the course of the game. 2) Currently rolling with OO being medic. I have to say that the trolly way he plays the game doesn't look like I know him as scum, where he tends to write longish (and serious), kinda nervous posts but on the other hand I don't think that's how a townie should play. The scumread on me that appeared out of nowhere does however trouble me ,as do all the claims in this game except for kush's. We neither have proof that there has to be a medic in the game nor proof that there's a cop which is very much in mafia's favour. That said, I'll assume for this question that he isn't scum. If you aren't scum then it'd be Haru/Exo/Cav by PoE. 3) As for what I said about OO, see the above. As to why I think Cav is a good candidate for scum is a lot of the way he played D1, already explained it: Starts by playing low profile or lazy or whatever, when it gets hot he drops a massive post, then claims and stops doing anything after his claim when he should still have been super active. To me that read like scum claiming, closing his eyes to the discussion and waiting for a counterclaim if you ask me. Just this was enough to give me the persistent strong feeling that he's scum. | ||
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