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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 28 2014 22:04 GMT
#1781
On June 29 2014 07:03 Hobbitus wrote:
Fuck it, if Templar is town I'll never forgive myself

##vote: HaruRH

How dramatic.
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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 28 2014 22:08 GMT
#1782
On June 29 2014 07:03 Hobbitus wrote:
Fuck it, if Templar is town I'll never forgive myself

##vote: HaruRH


I did a 3 hour-3 post kong analysis of all your posts.

Put in the same amount of effort before you vote for me. Or else I'm dismissing it as OMGUS.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 22:10 GMT
#1783
I don't see it as suddenly, Haru.

Check this post of him, during night time:

On June 27 2014 10:50 Hobbitus wrote:
So he originally voted on mp with a scum read on him, and a "slight town" read on MM.

Then, after MM was being weird MM:

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, is MysteryMeat not defending himself at all right now? Wtf? He even told Scott to fight to the end if he was town...


I don't like this. MM defending or not defending himself doesn't mean anything, neither mafia nor town want to be lynched. And yet that's somehow enough to get him to change his vote to MM. And the bit about Scott... I dunno, that sounds like a very contrived argument to me. MM said scott should keep fighting to the end so town would win, not that fighting to the end MADE scott town, I thought that was fairly obvious.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:18 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Templar also declares meatPudding as scum, and says im slightly town. nothing else had been posted by either of us, and he's willing to vote on me. Says there is no way i could be town here and then votes on me. I'd say at least one of the mafia are going to be between tolkien,cats,templar. If we are lucky then two of them would be there. They have been pushing on different people, but never pushed on each other.

My vote was a knee-jerk reaction to your actions initially contradicting your post about scott and was also a pressure post, shifting the majority from pudding back to you.
I didn't mean to say that you could not possibly be town, but not responding for so long is something a town just wouldn't do in normal conditions.
You didn't react, now you have, and since your read makes sense now, I'm switching back to the other meat.


This is the kind of non confrontational thing I'm talking about. At this point in the day, it was unclear which meat was going to get lynched, so if templar were scum he wouldn't want to piss off either of them and risk a case on him D2. Read his filter, he then goes through an awkward series of editing posts trying to reconcile his town read on MM with voting him

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 11:38 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:38 The_Templar wrote:
Also, my general opinion of mysterymeat hadn't changed from my initial post where I said he was slightly town, but I over-reacted to his complete and total lack of defense (I also thought he had given up).

edit: Yeah I said he couldn't be town. That was wrong of me, I should have said he couldn't be town since he wasn't defending at all, but he clearly is now.


So this is all a bit weird, and as soon as I say something to him about it, HE CHANGES HIS VOTE BACK TO MM. Read the entire quote below:

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:06 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

To clarify: I am mentally voting for MM at this point, and if nothing has changed in the next 40 or so minutes, I'll unvote meatpudding. But I don't want to spam the vote list.


He's so pliant. It just seems super scummy to me. It also makes me think that both meats are actually town, and either wagon would have resulted in a mislynch D1.


He actually put more effort than me while quoting.
I guess after we found out we had such similar opinion, we started being more aggressive towards Templar.

You are right, Haru. I would like you to notice that Hobbitus also have a scumread on epi. I also have it. You also.
It may not be our strongest reads, but it is where we agree. Considering we have probably 4 mafia, we should stick where we agree and catch at least 1 mafia and use our time better to make stronger cases and evaluate our next target.

I think it's safer if we vote in agreed scumreads. We should make a stronger case on epi, btw.

That said, changing votes for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Epishade

I'm adorable.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 28 2014 22:14 GMT
#1784
Give me time to evaluate between hobbitus and epishade.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 28 2014 22:18 GMT
#1785
I don't have time to post anymore. It's 6am here. I will definitely miss the flip so i'm leaving my vote with epi for today. Let's talk properly and consolidate our scumreads on n3.

##Unvote
##Vote: Epishade
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 22:18 GMT
#1786
Hobbitus, I had no idea that you would have the same opinion as I. Maybe I can't expose my reasons very well. But you can't deny that it looked like we were doing it together, it was really specific. Somehow; as you had the same idea as you, I can't believe you're not town.

It is okay, for me, that people might think it's suspicious. It is. You have to prove your point more than OMGUSing. More than that, I cover the possibility that we may be wrong. But that is always a danger for town, right? The best option for townies is discuss A LOT.

More than that: There are 4 mafia, probably. Templar may be scum, and I believe so. But there are 3 more that we have to cover. If we agree votes with our best town reads right now, better for us. We can let Templar be our second lynch.

Hobbitus, what do you think of Epishade?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 22:20 GMT
#1787
More: it is strange that tehpoofter and mtamburini are so quiet. Are they trying to avoid attention?
I'm adorable.
Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
June 28 2014 22:32 GMT
#1788
On June 29 2014 07:18 HaruRH wrote:
I don't have time to post anymore. It's 6am here. I will definitely miss the flip so i'm leaving my vote with epi for today. Let's talk properly and consolidate our scumreads on n3.

##Unvote
##Vote: Epishade

There's not going to be a night 3 if it's lylo and you vote me. I like how you assume that there is going to be a night 3 if I get lynched, almost as if you were so sure I were scum, but you really knew I wasn't! That sounds like the kind of thing scum would say to appear townie when they knew there actually wouldn't be a night 3.

##Unvote
##Vote: HaruRH
Pinhead Larry in the streets, Dirty Dan in the sheets.
Hobbitus
Profile Joined June 2014
222 Posts
June 28 2014 22:44 GMT
#1789
I am at work, posted on my break. Can't really post anything longer rn, maybe if I'm not dead tmrw. Trying to decide whether to vote Haru or Templar argh. Will be back a few minutes before eod I guess
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 28 2014 22:46 GMT
#1790
On June 29 2014 07:32 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 07:18 HaruRH wrote:
I don't have time to post anymore. It's 6am here. I will definitely miss the flip so i'm leaving my vote with epi for today. Let's talk properly and consolidate our scumreads on n3.

##Unvote
##Vote: Epishade

There's not going to be a night 3 if it's lylo and you vote me. I like how you assume that there is going to be a night 3 if I get lynched, almost as if you were so sure I were scum, but you really knew I wasn't! That sounds like the kind of thing scum would say to appear townie when they knew there actually wouldn't be a night 3.

##Unvote
##Vote: HaruRH


Fuck I can't sleep. I drank so much monster energy to watch SGDQ and its 6.40am now ;_;

An epishade lynch is a gamble I am willing to make over a templar lynch. Considering both could be town (nobody is 100% scumread), in my eyes, your % is much, much higher. Even if n3 don't come, I won't regret choosing my own scumread over a forced lynch on templar, which I will also regret for my life if he flips town.

You, on the other hand, seems desperate to make someone else other than you, get lynched. You know meatpudding and teemu is your top scumreads, but you chose to vote me instead. Congrats, now you're my top scumread.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 22:47 GMT
#1791
Epi, convince me Haru is scum.
You still have a chance with me because I feel that my vote could bemislead by this post:

On June 29 2014 06:50 HaruRH wrote:
So right now, we must consolidate our votes on templar, epi or hobbitus. I want to lynch epi and hobbitus.

I'm adorable.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 28 2014 22:53 GMT
#1792
...

"And yeah, all my posts reek of panic -_- if anything Haru is promoting everyone to panic with lylo this, lylo that. "


"I like how you assume that there is going to be a night 3 if I get lynched"

Can somebody explain wtf am I supposed to do now.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 22:56 GMT
#1793
On June 29 2014 07:53 HaruRH wrote:
...

"And yeah, all my posts reek of panic -_- if anything Haru is promoting everyone to panic with lylo this, lylo that. "


"I like how you assume that there is going to be a night 3 if I get lynched"

Can somebody explain wtf am I supposed to do now.


Don't OMGUS, don't focus single posts, evaluate the whole picture and have in mind voting Hobbitus would be a waste of vote as nobody else seems to be willing to vote him, even Templar is lurking.
I'm adorable.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 28 2014 22:59 GMT
#1794
On June 29 2014 07:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 07:53 HaruRH wrote:
...

"And yeah, all my posts reek of panic -_- if anything Haru is promoting everyone to panic with lylo this, lylo that. "


"I like how you assume that there is going to be a night 3 if I get lynched"

Can somebody explain wtf am I supposed to do now.


Don't OMGUS, don't focus single posts, evaluate the whole picture and have in mind voting Hobbitus would be a waste of vote as nobody else seems to be willing to vote him, even Templar is lurking.


No, what I meant was that hobbitus basically told me not to spread panic with lylo here lylo there, and when I stop using it, epi is using it as a scumread.

So what am I supposed to do?

Everyone oitside of the 4 of us are lurking. 5 out of 9 players are lurking.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 28 2014 23:02 GMT
#1795
On June 29 2014 07:20 GlowingBear wrote:
More: it is strange that tehpoofter and mtamburini are so quiet. Are they trying to avoid attention?

poofter is in a different game and mtam, don't know.
I have lost quite a bit of interest in this game over the past 24 hours.

On June 29 2014 07:44 Hobbitus wrote:
I am at work, posted on my break. Can't really post anything longer rn, maybe if I'm not dead tmrw. Trying to decide whether to vote Haru or Templar argh. Will be back a few minutes before eod I guess

What do you think of Epishade and meatpudding?

I'm currently down to a vote between those two. I don't feel particularly good about GlowingBear, Haru, and Hobbitus right now until I have a lot more information and they are actually trying to get something moving even with half the players AFK/doing nothing.

I still like some of Epishade's points, but not this one:
On June 29 2014 07:32 Epishade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 07:18 HaruRH wrote:
I don't have time to post anymore. It's 6am here. I will definitely miss the flip so i'm leaving my vote with epi for today. Let's talk properly and consolidate our scumreads on n3.

##Unvote
##Vote: Epishade

There's not going to be a night 3 if it's lylo and you vote me. I like how you assume that there is going to be a night 3 if I get lynched, almost as if you were so sure I were scum, but you really knew I wasn't! That sounds like the kind of thing scum would say to appear townie when they knew there actually wouldn't be a night 3.

##Unvote
##Vote: HaruRH

He doesn't have time so he's leaving his vote on what he believes is a likely mafia candidate. How is that a huge scum read?

On June 29 2014 07:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't see it as suddenly, Haru.

Check this post of him, during night time:

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 10:50 Hobbitus wrote:
So he originally voted on mp with a scum read on him, and a "slight town" read on MM.

Then, after MM was being weird MM:

On June 23 2014 10:57 The_Templar wrote:
Wow, is MysteryMeat not defending himself at all right now? Wtf? He even told Scott to fight to the end if he was town...


I don't like this. MM defending or not defending himself doesn't mean anything, neither mafia nor town want to be lynched. And yet that's somehow enough to get him to change his vote to MM. And the bit about Scott... I dunno, that sounds like a very contrived argument to me. MM said scott should keep fighting to the end so town would win, not that fighting to the end MADE scott town, I thought that was fairly obvious.

On June 23 2014 11:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:18 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Templar also declares meatPudding as scum, and says im slightly town. nothing else had been posted by either of us, and he's willing to vote on me. Says there is no way i could be town here and then votes on me. I'd say at least one of the mafia are going to be between tolkien,cats,templar. If we are lucky then two of them would be there. They have been pushing on different people, but never pushed on each other.

My vote was a knee-jerk reaction to your actions initially contradicting your post about scott and was also a pressure post, shifting the majority from pudding back to you.
I didn't mean to say that you could not possibly be town, but not responding for so long is something a town just wouldn't do in normal conditions.
You didn't react, now you have, and since your read makes sense now, I'm switching back to the other meat.


This is the kind of non confrontational thing I'm talking about. At this point in the day, it was unclear which meat was going to get lynched, so if templar were scum he wouldn't want to piss off either of them and risk a case on him D2. Read his filter, he then goes through an awkward series of editing posts trying to reconcile his town read on MM with voting him

On June 23 2014 11:38 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:38 The_Templar wrote:
Also, my general opinion of mysterymeat hadn't changed from my initial post where I said he was slightly town, but I over-reacted to his complete and total lack of defense (I also thought he had given up).

edit: Yeah I said he couldn't be town. That was wrong of me, I should have said he couldn't be town since he wasn't defending at all, but he clearly is now.


So this is all a bit weird, and as soon as I say something to him about it, HE CHANGES HIS VOTE BACK TO MM. Read the entire quote below:

On June 23 2014 12:06 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:04 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:59 Hobbitus wrote:
Templar, this
King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

is enough for you to change your mind about MM?

Despite Tolkien's beautiful argument?

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

I never changed my general opinion of MysteryMeat. However, he's sort of looking frantic at this point, so I'm considering changing my vote back. I don't like changing my vote back and forth so I'm waiting until a conclusion is being reached.

On June 23 2014 12:00 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:27 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 11:12 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Just from rereading the thread over my town reads would be

Scott: He votes on himself because he feels that the game isn't for him. Then thanks me for telling him to keep fighting if he was town. If Scott was mafia, I doubt he would be feeling alone, as he would have a mafia qt to post in and ask for advice. He hasn't contributed a whole lot but i really think he is town.

King:
As its been pointed out by a few people, of my glaring inconsitancy by condeming cats for lynching regardless of alignment. I also don't like how tolkien said it. Missed the sentence in his post where he said it. Unlike teemu and nydus i get my reads from more of a general flow of the game.

The_Templar:
Says scumhunting isn't essential day 1, doesn't like scott, and is willing to lynch him because he has no scum read.

Like the reason i don't like CATS, Tolkien, is because they seem very ready to lynch people, and throwing scum on people to sway town into voting on them. (this isn't OMGUS) but teemu on the other hand votes on people to get reactions and reads. I think there is a very clear distinction. I usually don't pay too much attention, but in this case imo the distinction is pretty clear.

Teemu: I really like teemu, he's pushing for information, and getting reads. He thinks pudding is scum, which i think pudding could be town.

Nydus: Hasn't posted a ton recently but i think he's pretty town. The way i distinguish between his town and mafia play is how objective he is to the game. When he's town his reads are more selfish and when he's mafia his reads are really objective.

Tolkien: i honestly don't like, once again not for OMGUS, but he wants to lynch lurkers, which i don't agree with. If they keep on lurking they could get modkilled. He also is telling blue roles how to play the game. There is more than one way to play mafia, and i think he's just fishing for roles to kill in the night honestly. I also don't like the fact that when people talked about my inconsistency on cat's and tolkien. No one really mentioned the fact that there could be a relationship between tolkien and I. IMO if mafia are going to go for an inconsitancy like that it happens for a reason.

HARUH: Leaning pretty town. I like his reads early on in the game.

Epishade: I don't know atm. I get this odd feeling like he's playing slightly different than he was the last time i played with him when he was town. Don't know what this really means, but could potentially expand on this on d2 if im alive.

in the mafia fence pile
jabber
glowingbear (first post striked me as really odd)
pudding (said he could be town, but i think teemu is pretty town and teemu is pretty good at finding mafia)

Why are me and Tolkien on your townpile if you don't like either of us?

Where was Tolkien telling blue roles how to play the game and how is that scummy?

What is this possible relationship between you and Tolkien?

Can you elaborate on why the people in your mafia pile are scummy?

I'm going to help meat a bit and answer that relationship question. This post was the initial lynch post, where tolkien did something similar to what I did later (although I've retracted mine in favor of the still very scummy meatpudding)

I'm sorry but i really can't see what you're getting at. How does that post help explain a relationship between MM and Tolkien?

It got the town riled up against MM for the most part. It also caused my vote to change to MM to pressure him, which made him come out and start defending himself. Now MM is defending himself from Tolkien among other people.

This thread has gotten really, really weird.

To clarify: I am mentally voting for MM at this point, and if nothing has changed in the next 40 or so minutes, I'll unvote meatpudding. But I don't want to spam the vote list.


He's so pliant. It just seems super scummy to me. It also makes me think that both meats are actually town, and either wagon would have resulted in a mislynch D1.


He actually put more effort than me while quoting.
I guess after we found out we had such similar opinion, we started being more aggressive towards Templar. (1)

You are right, Haru. I would like you to notice that Hobbitus also have a scumread on epi. I also have it. (2) You also.
It may not be our strongest reads, but it is where we agree. Considering we have probably 4 mafia, we should stick where we agree and catch at least 1 mafia and use our time better to make stronger cases and evaluate our next target.

I think it's safer if we vote in agreed scumreads. We should make a stronger case on epi, btw.

That said, changing votes for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Epishade


(1) You immediately abandoned the attack on me as soon as I started defending myself. I'm not sure how to read this.
(2) I'm going to agree with a point Hobbitus made earlier. I don't think mafia would make such an obvious play. So unless I'm being incredibly mind-gamed (not likely), I'm reading you both as town, so I'll help pressure epishade into doing something.

##Vote: Epishade

I'd like to also add this is more a pressure vote than a suspect vote. Epishade has been doing some weird stuff recently, but so has a lot of town (yeah yeah I'm agreeing with hobbitus again). However, I don't think that this guarantees he is town, and I want to see how he responds (besides by pushing very insignificant points on a potential lylo on day 3) before the day is over.
I'm also voting now in case I forget to vote.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 23:04 GMT
#1796
Lol XD
Maybe doing what you think is right and not caring lol.

By lurking I wanted to say "not voting". At least 2 of the lurkers already made their stance. Waiting EoD to vote is SO SCUMMY.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 28 2014 23:05 GMT
#1797
On June 29 2014 08:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol XD
Maybe doing what you think is right and not caring lol.

By lurking I wanted to say "not voting". At least 2 of the lurkers already made their stance. Waiting EoD to vote is SO SCUMMY.

I was gone a lot longer than I thought I would be this afternoon. And it's not quite EOD yet, which is why I'm voting now.
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mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
June 28 2014 23:14 GMT
#1798
On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count – Day 1


scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337
Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRH
TheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1
meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_Templar
HaruRH (0): meatpudding
jabberwockzerg (0): Hobbitus
MysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpudding

Not voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha


Currently, MysteryMeat1 is set to be lynched with 8 votes.
As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!

Day 1 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)).



Looking at the day1 ML I strongly believe there is mafia between Epi Hobbitus Templar and meatpudding

On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 2 - Final Vote Count


meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBear
NydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini
GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMain
Teemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade
Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus
HaruRH (0): GlowingBear
Jabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear
mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMain

Not voting (1): Jabberwockzerg



NydusHerMain was lynched with 3 votes.


With the spread out votes on DAY 2 I dont think mafia would vote on eachother and would spread amoung town. Therefore I would lynch between Temp and meatpudding 100% today and no one else.

Not sure what the most updated VC is but these are our best lynches today.
Also I think Teemu is super town for pulling off nydus and voting ephisade who could be mafia, but I think he is someone to look into another day. If were in the world that there are 3 in this game Im sure well hit at least 1 in between these 2.

##VOTE:: Templar
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 28 2014 23:15 GMT
#1799
On June 29 2014 08:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 08:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol XD
Maybe doing what you think is right and not caring lol.

By lurking I wanted to say "not voting". At least 2 of the lurkers already made their stance. Waiting EoD to vote is SO SCUMMY.

I was gone a lot longer than I thought I would be this afternoon. And it's not quite EOD yet, which is why I'm voting now.


That post was actually addressed to Haru and I wrote it before you posted. Although its funny how you posted it right after I said about lurkers.

Tehpoofter may be playing other game, but there is not even a single post by him since, I don't know , 30 hours from now?

I understand you may have lost a bit of interest. Actually, we are only facing LYLO now because 2 townies were modkilled. Such a shame for a very good themed game. I actually started watching the original Star Trek series because of this.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
June 28 2014 23:25 GMT
#1800
On June 29 2014 08:14 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 12:54 Amiko wrote:
Vote Count – Day 1


scott31337 (1): Lord Tolkein, The_Templar, scott31337
Lord Tolkien (0): HaruRH
TheKingOfTheCats (0): NydusHerMain, MysteryMeat1
meatpudding (4): Teemursu, scott31337, HaruRH, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, Epishade, GlowingBear, MysteryMeat1, The_Templar
HaruRH (0): meatpudding
jabberwockzerg (0): Hobbitus
MysteryMeat1 (8): TheKingOfTheCats, Lord Tolkien, Epishade, Hobbitus, The_Templar, jabberwockzerg, NydusHerMain, The_Templar, meatpudding

Not voting (2): Solar424, BlondeMocha


Currently, MysteryMeat1 is set to be lynched with 8 votes.
As a reminder for resolving ties - a player becomes the new lynch target when that player has more votes than anyone else.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!

Day 1 will end in (04:00 GMT (+00:00)).



Looking at the day1 ML I strongly believe there is mafia between Epi Hobbitus Templar and meatpudding

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 2 - Final Vote Count


meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBear
NydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini
GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMain
Teemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade
Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus
HaruRH (0): GlowingBear
Jabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear
mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMain

Not voting (1): Jabberwockzerg



NydusHerMain was lynched with 3 votes.


With the spread out votes on DAY 2 I dont think mafia would vote on eachother and would spread amoung town. Therefore I would lynch between Temp and meatpudding 100% today and no one else.

Not sure what the most updated VC is but these are our best lynches today.
Also I think Teemu is super town for pulling off nydus and voting ephisade who could be mafia, but I think he is someone to look into another day. If were in the world that there are 3 in this game Im sure well hit at least 1 in between these 2.

##VOTE:: Templar

Would you like to explain why I'm more likely to be mafia than meatpudding?
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