Yuma Mini Mafia

You may name claim. You may not role claim.

On May 13 2014 10:55 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
seeing as how this is my first game here i really don't care either way who it is i'm just curious why thrawn wants to lynch you right off the bat

On May 13 2014 10:56 fuba wrote:
Oh, I assumed he was referring to you. I also assumed it was a joke, either way.

On May 13 2014 12:17 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:


It's 11 PM East coast time. That literally fits perfectly into the scenario you're either trying to figure out or ignore.

##Vote: Holyflare

God this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

On May 13 2014 12:52 Cavalinho wrote:


I'm joking.

Are we really going to do this again? After what happened to Vivax last game?

On May 13 2014 13:09 Cavalinho wrote:


The entire game wound up revolving around some dumb bullshit post I made early game and it got someone lynched because...Reasons?

I still don't know what Vivax was doing that game but w/e.

On May 13 2014 12:55 Holyflare wrote:
it's legit because you are mafia

On May 13 2014 12:56 Cavalinho wrote:
Fuck HF you're so good how do I be more like you.

On May 13 2014 12:58 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny because you think i'm joking

On May 13 2014 13:02 fuba wrote:
I have no idea what to think atm XD

On May 13 2014 13:04 Cavalinho wrote:


...Why did you post this?

On May 13 2014 13:12 Cavalinho wrote:


So you honestly believe that it wasn't because of any of the reasons I brought up?

On May 13 2014 13:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey i'm going to lurk for 24 hours if that's alright

##unvote

On May 13 2014 13:17 Holyflare wrote:
completely different, last game you responded to questions raised about why you voted someone not vivax and here it's a change of attitude on someone following our line of trolling

On May 13 2014 13:47 kushm4sta wrote:
help me understand why he's scum cause im not getting it

On May 13 2014 23:34 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
Anyways I guess I'll
##VOTE CAV
For now

On May 13 2014 12:17 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:


It's 11 PM East coast time. That literally fits perfectly into the scenario you're either trying to figure out or ignore.

##Vote: Holyflare

God this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

On May 14 2014 00:04 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

I think he's scum becasue after looking back if you're supposedly playing town than his defense makes him look scummy.
You still haven't told me exactly why you think he's scum

On May 14 2014 00:04 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

I think he's scum becasue after looking back if you're supposedly playing town than his defense makes him look scummy.
You still haven't told me exactly why you think he's scum

On May 14 2014 01:37 Cavalinho wrote:


Odd how? How am I odd for thinking I am going to be lynched?

Because, guess what, I have three votes on me and it looks a lot like I'm going to be lynched. You don't think that's a problem?

On May 14 2014 01:49 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
Yo. Other peeps. Is this normal behavior for thrawn? I see nothing of contribution from his filter

On May 13 2014 10:55 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
seeing as how this is my first game here i really don't care either way who it is i'm just curious why thrawn wants to lynch you right off the bat

On May 14 2014 02:10 BlueyD wrote:
I also understood that post as a reference to fuba, not dicksmash. Plus if you think fuba isn't smurf:



Yeah I don't think a non-smurf would say this.

On May 14 2014 02:05 BlueyD wrote:



I'm still waiting on Holy to tell me why what he identifies as trolling then becomes a real argument, that'll help my read. As for cav he was an easy place to put my early game vote, I do think joking about being scum is a bit more of a scum move than a town move but it's not a very strong case. I think his panic is really unwarranted but I'm not sure what it means, and in the end my vote will switch if I find a better case.

Not impressed by kush either. Timezones and weird graphs, meh.

On May 14 2014 02:16 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

He was talking about fuba man chill out. I'm just straight up new and you hard pressing that as being scummy is really pissing
Me off, all your reasons why I'm mafia are ridiculous

On May 11 2014 04:50 Foolishness wrote:
I'm personally going to enjoy trying to figure out whose smurf you are

On May 14 2014 02:17 Cavalinho wrote:
Was fuba's post really a troll post though?

Who trolls by outing their confusion? >.>

On May 13 2014 13:02 fuba wrote:
I have no idea what to think atm XD

On May 14 2014 02:29 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

Its not casue I'm pissed. Its just more fun

On May 14 2014 02:43 kushm4sta wrote:
you know that guy who you think is possible scum because he keeps pushign stupid shit for no reason?
but you dont want to read his filter because it's so boring. hf is that guy.

On May 14 2014 03:06 Cavalinho wrote:
HF's play this game is super good.

On May 14 2014 03:22 kushm4sta wrote:


i figured out smurf hunting is uesless is what i figured out. if you don't know someone's meta, dont pretend to konw their meta.

Vivax: needs to post

Thrawn: scummy,hasn't contributed a damn thing. again is this normal behavior for him? because if not i could easily lynch him

On May 14 2014 06:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
and of that list i'm gona stick with cav, all the rest could just be bad town but he's just playing pretty scummy however you look at it

On May 14 2014 07:15 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:


Because you're either smurf hunting which is inherently anti-town because you're not trying to deduce alignments, you're trying to figure out who someone is (who you're probably then going to try and meta, and be wrong about it but I digress), or you truly think that his disappearance and hay fever are false or trying to paint them as scummy while ignoring the two facts that would actually justify both things he said.

BUUUUUUUT a lot of junk has happened since then and now and this is much better:

##Vote: Cavalinho

Dude has done not a damn thing but be on the defensive the entire game. Kill it. With fire, preferably.

On May 14 2014 17:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
holyflare next time you're in here you need to try and convince me of your cav read

On May 15 2014 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote:


the thing about cav is that he will continue to wallow in self pity about being lynched for however long he's in the spotlight. last game nobody gave a fuck about him for most of D1, in fact most people town read him. so that allowed him to scumhunt. but now he's been in the spolight all game so he's been defensive for most of the game. i';ve never seen him not get defensive about being lynched D1 so it does not worry me when he gets defensive about it, no matter long he continues to be so defensive.

saying he has no reads is absolutely false and you need to reevaluate that part of your read.

On May 14 2014 03:22 Cavalinho wrote:
"Normally" as in that one game that one time. Yes, that is a most accurate meta read.

Also, almost nobody has done anything alignment indicative yet. I think you're town this game (again, because it just went so well the first time) because of your approach/desire to solve the game, and because you lack the same interest in making friends that you have when you're scum.

But that's the only thing thus far that I can comment on. I don't feel like anything else said so far has been alignment indicative. For anyone.

On May 14 2014 09:56 Vivax wrote:
I agree on Cav being scummy. He calls HF's arguments shit and later says he's supertown. Last game he called me scum for arguments he perceived as shit, plus the moment he goes serious with his question to fuba is around the moment HF puts pressure on him.

What happened last game, as he wanted to bring up, is: I thought he scummy, disagreed, thought I scummy, lynched me.

Which is not what is happening in this one cause he's behaving differently. He could as well have said of me I was trying to figure stuff out in the last game. Overall I feel his townread on HF is unwarranted given that his initial arguments weren't good in my opinion (Cav scum for claiming scum, not even sure if it was serious).

The other two guys I'm interested in are fuba and kush cause both used "too scummy to be scum"-arguments and I'd like them to spell out what they find so scummy that it's too scummy to be scum about HF and kush, respectively,

Fuba said he would reconsider HF if he didn't bring up new arguments for Cav which is what he did so I'll be waiting on that.

Taking the subject to thrawn I'm interested into hearing from kush why he felt like giving him that townread when thrawn simply said he wouldn't be posting anything. Thrawn for me is still a wildcard and I'll give him some time but I don't feel confident at all to give him a read at this stage so I want to know why kush does.

Learn to read my posts. It wasn't just "oh he's being defensive." People do that all the time. It's that he hasn't done a damned thing other than be defensive all game. The "has not done a damn thing" line was equally important in that post. You know, the six words preceding "besides being defensive." I'm confident in that as a fairly good alignment indicator. Meta is pretty bad mkay. I don't question unless I feel the need to. I don't think I need to.

On May 15 2014 04:32 thrawn2112 wrote:


actually i have the same thoughts about your read on cav. have you taken any recent posts into account?

On May 12 2014 23:23 fuba wrote:
Just a heads up - I've got a research paper due on Wednesday, and it's about experimental/avant-garde film, so I don't think I'll be able to BS my way through it like I normally do with research papers XD Or maybe it'll be easier... Probably not, though.

In any case, my activity early D1 will be spotty, but that should be relatively similar to my usual D1 ^^

My initial read of DS was based on the fact that he reminds me of the people that I used to play with in those newbie games. I don't like him because I think he's an idiot and refuses to base his reads on actual things, but he's still most likely town.

On May 15 2014 06:05 Cavalinho wrote:
That doesn't really help me much, you know. Who would you rather lynch now? Every single player in the game has to be your townread except maybe Vivax...

And I'm not sure I want to lynch Vivax.

I think, if we don't kill Judge, we lynch fuba or DS. I don't really want kush at all, if I ever really did in the first place.

On May 15 2014 07:16 Cavalinho wrote:


My read didn't change.

I either want him to unvote me and start basing his reads off of real shit or I want him to die.

My initial read of DS was based on the fact that he reminds me of the people that I used to play with in those newbie games. I don't like him because I think he's an idiot and refuses to base his reads on actual things, but he's still most likely town.

On May 15 2014 06:37 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
and after reading through his filter hell i'm really not sure judge is mafia either, his thoughts seem genuine and his points seem good i don't see much to hate there
except that soft bussing thing that was p silly
i dunno i don't see voting him as of now

On May 15 2014 07:29 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

i'm also not entirely sure what you're saying here are you commenting on me or judge?

On May 15 2014 07:59 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:


Again, not what I said. Meta is, in fact, awful. But if you're going to insist on it, I'm going to make sure you have an accurate capability to pull the meta.

So I can laugh in your face because I know what my meta is and intentionally play against it when I see fit.

On May 15 2014 10:03 BlueyD wrote:
I'm still around yeah. kush still reads like scum to me. graphs to me seem like a way to look like you're putting in some effort without actually helping town. and 2/3 of his list were people I wouldn't consider lynching now (to be fair, 1 is me).

judge reads like he doesn't know what he's doing at all. his play is just... bad, whether he's town or scum. cav and holy both scum, really? did he think anyone would buy that? I dunno. Could be scum but feels like a typical D1 mislynch... :-/

On May 15 2014 10:03 kushm4sta wrote:
dude vpm is off the charts right now
scum are here

On May 15 2014 10:28 BlueyD wrote:
Yeah he'll flip scum.

On May 15 2014 10:26 Holyflare wrote:
kush gotta vote judge to stay alive

On May 15 2014 11:29 Cavalinho wrote:
are you being totally serious right now

On May 13 2014 17:55 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:


He's literally trying to piece together information, then ignores the obvious answer right in front of him because things look scummier if he doesn't point it out and no one catches on.



The pain of reading this is just overwhelming.

Moar HolyFlare votes pl0x. Case is that he's scummy and painfully obvious about it. Lynch on Cav is bad and you should feel bad if you're on it or support it.

On May 14 2014 09:56 Vivax wrote:
I agree on Cav being scummy. He calls HF's arguments shit and later says he's supertown. Last game he called me scum for arguments he perceived as shit, plus the moment he goes serious with his question to fuba is around the moment HF puts pressure on him.

What happened last game, as he wanted to bring up, is: I thought he scummy, disagreed, thought I scummy, lynched me.

Which is not what is happening in this one cause he's behaving differently. He could as well have said of me I was trying to figure stuff out in the last game. Overall I feel his townread on HF is unwarranted given that his initial arguments weren't good in my opinion (Cav scum for claiming scum, not even sure if it was serious).

The other two guys I'm interested in are fuba and kush cause both used "too scummy to be scum"-arguments and I'd like them to spell out what they find so scummy that it's too scummy to be scum about HF and kush, respectively,

Fuba said he would reconsider HF if he didn't bring up new arguments for Cav which is what he did so I'll be waiting on that.

Taking the subject to thrawn I'm interested into hearing from kush why he felt like giving him that townread when thrawn simply said he wouldn't be posting anything. Thrawn for me is still a wildcard and I'll give him some time but I don't feel confident at all to give him a read at this stage so I want to know why kush does.

The other two guys I'm interested in are fuba and kush cause both used "too scummy to be scum"-arguments and I'd like them to spell out what they find so scummy that it's too scummy to be scum about HF and kush, respectively,

On May 15 2014 11:38 Cavalinho wrote:


The amount of effort that I had to put into not getting lynched was borderline retarded.

On May 15 2014 12:05 Cavalinho wrote:
I also checked Blue's statement on kush's flip and that's not an absolute at all. It's a question posed for a yes or no answer, what do you expect him to give you? >.>

On May 16 2014 06:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
if i die lynch thrawn plz

On May 16 2014 06:30 Blazinghand wrote:
I see what you're saying. I see it! How long do we have until daybreak?

On May 16 2014 10:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok i'm not mccain

this means that if you are blue then you need to claim and we solve the game. if nobody claims then bh is actually probably town.

dicksmash's claim is very believable, i see no reason for scum to fake claim if two other town have already claimed named vt. so we have just confirmed dicksmash as named vt. so that means if anyone else is a blue, they claim, and we then lynch between them and BH for the win

On May 16 2014 10:59 Cavalinho wrote:
Hi. I just got home and need to wash because I'm gross. I'll reread everything in about 20 minutes or so.

On May 16 2014 20:09 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
So were back at square one now?

On May 16 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:
Ok this is the point where you actually concede.

3 claims when only 2 possible, 6v1 right now. If we lynch bh and hes not it then that's 4v1 if we lynch ds and hes not it then it's 2v1 at which point we lynch cav

So either way this game is unwinnable for mafia no matter what so gg

On May 17 2014 01:22 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
I'll read everything this evening when I get home from work. I fully expected to be lynched so I kinda stopped reading ~2 hours prior to deadline.

On May 16 2014 11:59 Cavalinho wrote:
Yeah I'm blue.

I thought I'd have to worry about people believing me but since slam stepped in...

I'm blue and I can't claim my role directly.

On May 17 2014 06:23 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
oh i dind't see cav had also claimed
yea it's BH for sure than
##vote blazinghand

On May 17 2014 06:26 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:

the situation has changed just a weee bit

On May 17 2014 06:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
the only way bh is town is if he lied about being blue but i except him to have fessed up by now if that were the case

On May 17 2014 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
well, given that there were 2 fake blueclaims besides mine, I think we can pretty easily find scum amongst those. just lynch them after me and we win, right?

On May 17 2014 10:21 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Wait did we not break the game now?

God dammit.